Do you think the Pimmit Hills area will eventually become upscale?
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Anonymous
I know that area very well. I don't see how you can find the appearance acceptable in comparison to pimmit hills. It is priced lower , has low grade cape cods and actually has low rent apartments with in parts of the neighborhood. You probably saved some cash. The elementary school scores a 4. There are no new builds in the neighborhood. https://www.google.com/maps/place/3138+Allen+St,+Falls+Church,+VA+22042/@38.8673916,-77.1999293,3a,75y,332.3h,67.74t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sejxoAz81QLWkZ8W3hJS7Rw!2e0!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x89b7b4b2d0177c3b:0x2f250bb20aaf142e!2s7206+Oakland+Ave,+Falls+Church,+VA+22042!3b1!3m1!1s0x89b64b54028e3873:0xaf2949816d432c50!6m1!1e1 https://www.redfin.com/city/12839/DC/Washington-DC/real-estate#!uipt=4%2C3%2C2%2C1&sold_within_days=730&v=8&sst=&lat=38.87155502255254&long=-77.19143366507444&zoomLevel=14®ion_id=115963®ion_type=7&market=dc |
Anonymous
The case is fundamentally a weak one, because it argues that people should consider PH's potential, but only consider current school ratings where other competing areas are concerned. It wasn't that long ago that Marshall was in the bottom third of the high schools in the county. You want people to believe that positive change only takes place in PH. Silly stuff. |
Anonymous
I didn't build my case on what will be, only on what is right now - current ratings, current distances, current job centers. I didn't mention "potential" anywhere in my comment so I am not sure where you are taking this from - your own head perhaps? As for the future, anything can happen. We can only know what is now. |
Anonymous
Not the Pine Spring poster, but you are wrong if you think there are no newer builds in 22042. I'm not sure I've seen any new homes in PH as nice as these houses (2907 Meadow View and 3204 Locker): 
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Anonymous
They dont really look anything that special. |
Anonymous
So you've conceding, as you must, these are mostly car-dependent amenities (no one in their right mind wants to cross Route 7 to get to PH with groceries from Whole Foods) and just arguing Pimmit Hills is somewhat more convenient. You can live in 22042 and have shopping at your fingertips within minutes as well (it may be easier to get to some places off Lee or Arlington from 22042 than to try to get to the "big box" side of Tysons from Pimmit, in fact). Spending another five minutes in your car to get to a job in Tysons is not necessarily a deal-breaker, either. You are trying to suggest that there's some type of breakpoint between PH and nearby areas like 22042, and that's simply not the case. If prices in PH gets too high, people may stretch a bit more to live in McLean and Vienna, or turn to areas like 22042 instead if they feel priced out. PH is now squeezed on both ends, which may be why activity in the area has slowed. It has its place in the local market, but it's not going to be as high-end as some keep trying to suggest. |
Anonymous
| Tons of houses just like that in PH. That YOU haven't seen them means nothing. The vinyl tower in the middle of the second one is funny. |
Anonymous
After seeing some of the newer houses in Pimmit Hlls, I'd say they look pretty good. Here are some of the newer builds in Pimmit: 
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Anonymous
Well at least you admit that there is no high end in 22042. People won't turn to other places like 22042 because they are looking for the location and schools. People will look at McLean/22043 McLean if PH prices get too high but there is still quite a bit of room. The question is, will the new silver line walkable retail development impact the desirability of PH when it is complete? That is the future question that people are willing to make a bet on if prices get higher. It's similar to what is in north arlington with people picking a lower ranked washington and lee high school because of the north Arlington location. The ony positive is that PH school zones are still rated highly so it's not a matter of McLean being that much better in terms of schools like a washington lee vs yorktown situation. |
Anonymous
Guess you lost the thread. You or one of your pals claimed there was no new construction in 22042. There is. Even if there were similar homes in PH, and some new homes in PH are better than others, it would just mean people can find similar homes in both areas and may consider 22042 a better deal. |
Anonymous
Those are the low end builds Here are the more standard mid range offerings: 
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Anonymous
I never argued that PH is completely car-independent. I am not sure why you are trying to bring up things that were never said, and attribute that to me. Who walks for groceries anyway? You don't have to cross Rt 7 for Trader Joe's, and one can certainly walk there from PH if one wants to, as well as to a coffee shop, pizza place, running store etc. 22042 is not "just five more minutes" to Tysons. You know that very well. Of course there is a breakpoint between PH and 22042. That breakpoint is in degree of their desirability, and it is explained by very objective factors - quality of schools, proximity to public transit and job centers, shopping, amenities etc. That's not to say 22042 cannot improve in the future, but it is simply not comparable to PH today - not because PH is prettier or architecturally superior, but because of what PH offers that 22042 does not. I never argued PH is high-end or upscale, and in fact I was one of the first posters to say so in this thread, but arguing that it is equal to 22042 is wrong on its face. |
Anonymous
I never said there was no new construction in 22042. I simply wouldn't know. Someone posted pictures of houses claiming they haven't seen anything as nice in PH, and I felt compelled to respond that in fact, there are houses just like that, and these houses aren't all that. |
Anonymous
There is some high end in 22042. There's probably more than in PH, though not nearly as much as in 22043 or McLean. But, again, that's not the point. If people think PH is getting too pricy, they can go in either direction. One option is to scale back and decide they will accept lower rated schools in exchange for a nicer house in an area that is still very convenient. Pimmit Hills and Tysons will never be like North Arlington along the Orange Line corridor. No one who wants to live near Court House or Clarendon realistically thinks Pimmit Hills is going to offer a similar walkable lifestyle. You really need to compare the scale of the types of develolpment under consideration. I hope you're not trying to convince people to pay more than they are already in PH in anticipation of something that is not going to materialize. The school comparisons aren't really on point, either. The Marshall pyramid didn't improve because people wanted to be in Pimmit Hills near Tysons the way that W-L improved because people wanted to live near the Orange Line. It improved because there was a ton of expensive housing built elsewhere in Vienna and Dunn Loring in the 1990s. It's actually more interesting to me that people are now moving into South Arlington now for its convenience and affordability, even though the schools aren't that highly rated and it's not as walkable as Clarendon or Court House. That tells me that people will likely keep moving into convenient, affordable places like 22042 as well. |
Anonymous
"Pimmit Hills and Tysons will never be like North Arlington along the Orange Line corridor." " I hope you're not trying to convince people to pay more than they are already in PH in anticipation of something that is not going to materialize. " HAHAHAHAHA you are funny. Keep beating that Arlington Orange Line drum and ignore the silver line developments, it's quite funny. Developers have already shifted their efforts to the silver line and have left most of the north arlington orange line developments. Most of the orange line is looking very early 90s now a days. |