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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


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Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


Stop the fake drama. In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?


Are these even high value, skilled roles?

3rd reminder

In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?[


Yes, women at my job have been fired on maternity leave. That wouldn’t happen with FMLA eligibility.

We get 16 weeks paid leave at 70% pay for 6-10 weeks (depending on disability) and the remainder at 100% pay.

Yes, I have paid leave, which is awesome. I still don’t have job protection through FMLA, which puts me in the same boat is the majority of Americans.

Anyone can be fired or laid off during FMLA leave if there’s a business case or underperformance case. Happens all the time, large or small companies.


Yea, lets keep being AH towards the most unprotected employees - new moms and their babies. All while we bomb Iran and build architectural monsters around DC


Lots of married working moms in the wash dc area. Go talk to them. They survived childbirth and newborn baby stage too! Gasp!!
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Thank goodness their IT security allows DCUM on smartphones and work computers!


You’re surprised biglaw allows me to access DCUM using cellular data on my personal device?
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


Stop the fake drama. In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?


Are these even high value, skilled roles?

3rd reminder

In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?[


Yes, women at my job have been fired on maternity leave. That wouldn’t happen with FMLA eligibility.

We get 16 weeks paid leave at 70% pay for 6-10 weeks (depending on disability) and the remainder at 100% pay.

Yes, I have paid leave, which is awesome. I still don’t have job protection through FMLA, which puts me in the same boat is the majority of Americans.

Anyone can be fired or laid off during FMLA leave if there’s a business case or underperformance case. Happens all the time, large or small companies.


Yea, lets keep being AH towards the most unprotected employees - new moms and their babies. All while we bomb Iran and build architectural monsters around DC


Lots of married working moms in the wash dc area. Go talk to them. They survived childbirth and newborn baby stage too! Gasp!!


They could have prospered and be happier all around. Not just "survived". This is what this thread is about
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


Stop the fake drama. In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?


Are these even high value, skilled roles?

3rd reminder

In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?[


Yes, women at my job have been fired on maternity leave. That wouldn’t happen with FMLA eligibility.

We get 16 weeks paid leave at 70% pay for 6-10 weeks (depending on disability) and the remainder at 100% pay.

Yes, I have paid leave, which is awesome. I still don’t have job protection through FMLA, which puts me in the same boat is the majority of Americans.

Anyone can be fired or laid off during FMLA leave if there’s a business case or underperformance case. Happens all the time, large or small companies.


It absolutely doesn’t happen all the time because it creates significance risk of an FMLA interference claim. It really only happens if there are already mass layoffs happening at the same time. If you think that you can easily be laid off during FMLA, then you’re arguing FMLA doesn’t actually offer any protection.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Thank goodness their IT security allows DCUM on smartphones and work computers!


You’re surprised biglaw allows me to access DCUM using cellular data on my personal device?

Ahhh, the addict
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


Stop the fake drama. In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?


Are these even high value, skilled roles?

3rd reminder

In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?[


Yes, women at my job have been fired on maternity leave. That wouldn’t happen with FMLA eligibility.

We get 16 weeks paid leave at 70% pay for 6-10 weeks (depending on disability) and the remainder at 100% pay.

Yes, I have paid leave, which is awesome. I still don’t have job protection through FMLA, which puts me in the same boat is the majority of Americans.

Anyone can be fired or laid off during FMLA leave if there’s a business case or underperformance case. Happens all the time, large or small companies.


It absolutely doesn’t happen all the time because it creates significance risk of an FMLA interference claim. It really only happens if there are already mass layoffs happening at the same time. If you think that you can easily be laid off during FMLA, then you’re arguing FMLA doesn’t actually offer any protection.


Yes many firms cull their bottom 5-10% each year.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


Same leverage a valuable employee always has.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


Stop the fake drama. In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?


Are these even high value, skilled roles?

3rd reminder

In practice:

Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?[


Yes, women at my job have been fired on maternity leave. That wouldn’t happen with FMLA eligibility.

We get 16 weeks paid leave at 70% pay for 6-10 weeks (depending on disability) and the remainder at 100% pay.

Yes, I have paid leave, which is awesome. I still don’t have job protection through FMLA, which puts me in the same boat is the majority of Americans.

Anyone can be fired or laid off during FMLA leave if there’s a business case or underperformance case. Happens all the time, large or small companies.


It absolutely doesn’t happen all the time because it creates significance risk of an FMLA interference claim. It really only happens if there are already mass layoffs happening at the same time. If you think that you can easily be laid off during FMLA, then you’re arguing FMLA doesn’t actually offer any protection.


Yes many firms cull their bottom 5-10% each year.


Sigh, you’re clearly not an employment lawyer. Not sure why I engage. You don’t even know the basic requirements for FMLA eligibility.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


Same leverage a valuable employee always has.


That’s just a lie, and you know that.

A pregnant woman is at her most vulnerable if she loses her job because she needs the salary and healthcare coverage more than ever before. If visibly pregnant, she is unlikely to get hired anywhere because she’ll be seen as a liability. She will not be eligible for FMLA at her new job. And many employers preclude new employees from taking parental leave even if there is a paid parental leave program.

A pregnant employee has the least leverage, and employers capitalize on that.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


Same leverage a valuable employee always has.


That’s just a lie, and you know that.

A pregnant woman is at her most vulnerable if she loses her job because she needs the salary and healthcare coverage more than ever before. If visibly pregnant, she is unlikely to get hired anywhere because she’ll be seen as a liability. She will not be eligible for FMLA at her new job. And many employers preclude new employees from taking parental leave even if there is a paid parental leave program.

A pregnant employee has the least leverage, and employers capitalize on that.


You’re wrong. You don’t get it.

Get more skills and add more value so you can write your own employment contract and benefits. Certainly a 2-4 month paid leave contract.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


Same leverage a valuable employee always has.


That’s just a lie, and you know that.

A pregnant woman is at her most vulnerable if she loses her job because she needs the salary and healthcare coverage more than ever before. If visibly pregnant, she is unlikely to get hired anywhere because she’ll be seen as a liability. She will not be eligible for FMLA at her new job. And many employers preclude new employees from taking parental leave even if there is a paid parental leave program.

A pregnant employee has the least leverage, and employers capitalize on that.


You’re wrong. You don’t get it.

Get more skills and add more value so you can write your own employment contract and benefits. Certainly a 2-4 month paid leave contract.


That’s not how it works. But even so, why should someone have to “earn” parental leave when having children is for the public good? Not to mention the fact that it takes time to build skill and experience. You’re asking someone to wait to have children until they ascend to a high level. Fertility doesn’t work that way, and women are ill-advised to sit around waiting to peak in their careers.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


Same leverage a valuable employee always has.


That’s just a lie, and you know that.

A pregnant woman is at her most vulnerable if she loses her job because she needs the salary and healthcare coverage more than ever before. If visibly pregnant, she is unlikely to get hired anywhere because she’ll be seen as a liability. She will not be eligible for FMLA at her new job. And many employers preclude new employees from taking parental leave even if there is a paid parental leave program.

A pregnant employee has the least leverage, and employers capitalize on that.


Women in tech, finance, fed, and consulting change jobs all the time right at the end of whatever mat leave off they have. Then use their time home for interviewing and job searching.

If there’s no hiring or training or replacement or downtime risk to your employer if you leave, then I guess you aren’t that valuable there. That’s OK. You’re on a different path.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


NP. My boss needs me more than I need him. I'd worked at my job for 8 years before I had my first kid.
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Anonymous wrote:Do most women want to stay at home after having kids? I don't think they do. I personally would like to work 7 hour days after having kids (instead of 8.5). That would be ideal for me, and you could cut my salary by that same amount. I liked having 12 weeks paid maternity leave and then returning to work.

I see the stats in newspapers on maternity leave, but it doesn't mesh with what I see first hand. All of my girl friends have either had paid maternity leave through work, or paid through a work STD policy, or they used their own annual and sick leave (what I did). Career jobs do all have maternity leave or STD policies for birth.


Correct

Everyone with a professional salaried job gets 12 weeks paid by employer FMLA leave, must work there over 12 mos to qualify.


Hi. This is wrong. If your employer has fewer than 50 employees AT YOUR WORK SITE (or within 75 miles) you are not eligible for FMLA. While I get paid parental leave, I have no job protection because we have fewer than 50 employees in DC (but hundreds nationwide).


Correct. What about it? Your employees can’t hold your small business ransom.


Did they let go the last several pregnant women while they were home on (unprotected) leave?

How many weeks of (unprotected) leave did they pay or at what %?

Are these even high value, skilled roles? Because the more easily replaceable you are, the less you’re going to make at the office or on leave.


Go work somewhere else if that bothers you.


What small business? My employer has over 1,000 employees nationwide. The HQ just happens to be in a different city.

Women are severely underrepresented, particularly in leadership, in my industry.

I don’t have any job protection if I have a baby.


You mean b/c everyone is a remote worker?

Is that why FMLA doesn’t apply? Because clearly you’re over 50 FTEs.

Cut to the point PP. Are you an unskilled wage worker


Dude, I am a literal in-office biglaw attorney making over 600k/yr, but I’m sure you’ll somehow use that to disparage.

You are not eligible for FMLA unless you work in a location where your employer employs at least 50 employees within a 75 miles radius. My office is a satellite office, and we don’t meet that cut off. The HQ is New York. So no, I don’t work for a small business. I also still have no job protection if I have a baby or get seriously ill, even though my employer provides paid leave.


Don’t work there then if their paper rules bother you so much.

If you were so amazing you could negotiate whatever you want for leave. Like most adult professionals do with their boss.


This.

Lots of room to negotiate if not club Fed or big F500


How do you propose negotiating when you’re pregnant? What kind of leverage do you think the employee has there?


Same leverage a valuable employee always has.


That’s just a lie, and you know that.

A pregnant woman is at her most vulnerable if she loses her job because she needs the salary and healthcare coverage more than ever before. If visibly pregnant, she is unlikely to get hired anywhere because she’ll be seen as a liability. She will not be eligible for FMLA at her new job. And many employers preclude new employees from taking parental leave even if there is a paid parental leave program.

A pregnant employee has the least leverage, and employers capitalize on that.


You’re wrong. You don’t get it.

Get more skills and add more value so you can write your own employment contract and benefits. Certainly a 2-4 month paid leave contract.


That’s not how it works. But even so, why should someone have to “earn” parental leave when having children is for the public good? Not to mention the fact that it takes time to build skill and experience. You’re asking someone to wait to have children until they ascend to a high level. Fertility doesn’t work that way, and women are ill-advised to sit around waiting to peak in their careers.


20% of American adults are illiterate and another 20% of high school grads read below a 6th grade level so what public good are you talking about? All the welfare they need?
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