H1b visas. Anyone else work in technology and see the issues with this program and outsourcing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2016 Competition Data

According to the 2017 NFAP policy brief analyzing the 2016 cohort of the top 40 competitors:

Overall Immigrant Parents: 83% of the top 40 scholars (33 individuals) had at least one immigrant parent.
H-1B Visas: 75% (30 of 40) had parents who worked in the United States on H-1B visas.

International Students: 68% (27 of 40) had a parent who initially came to the U.S. as an international student and later obtained H-1B status.

Got something more current??

Let’s deal in facts AND current , something immigration proponents seem unable to do.

Computer science college seniors in the United States outperform peers in China, India and Russia, new research says
U.S. undergraduate programs appear to produce more skilled computer science students on average, according to Stanford-led research.

“ There is this sense in the public that the high quality of STEM programs in the United States is driven by its international students,” Loyalka said. “Our data show that’s not the case. The results hold if we only consider domestic students in the U.S.”

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/computer-science-college-seniors-us-outperform-peers-china-india-and-russia-new-research-says

So no skills shortage and US students are superior

Where are the democrats fighting for US workers??

Why are the broligarchs who run these companies throwing millions and millions at Trump and MAGA? 🤔

That’s a better question. And it’s laughable that you think union busters like Trump and Vance are fighting for US workers.

Clearly you have a lack of reading comprehension

Show us a single democrat fighting to repeal h1b?

Show us a single democrat fighting to e ill eliminate Optional Practical Training visas?

Until democrats do something , I will stick with the evil that has tried to, without a job I can’t care about other priorities

So please point us to a single democrat willing to favor US workers over foreign workers!!!!!!

I've worked in the tech industry for 20+ years, and I've seen H1s flood the industry, and more and more jobs offshored, so I know a bit about this whole situation.

But, your attitude really scares me. It reminds me of how Germans tolerated the evil that his Hitler because at least they had jobs. Just how much evil are you willing to accept for your job? People like you are willing to sell their souls to the devil for a job. If there was an apocalypse, people like you would be the ones to eat a baby because you were starving.

Trump and people like you have shown me that our civilization is just a veneer, that underneath this "great America", it's full of racist, selfish aholes who would support someone like Hitler if it meant that they could have a job and nice things.

DP
Again, nice try. We can see what you’re doing.

Pp wasn’t racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

Why are you endlessly prattling about Democrats when the GOP is the party in power? Are you a troll or a bot?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Who’s “we”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2016 Competition Data

According to the 2017 NFAP policy brief analyzing the 2016 cohort of the top 40 competitors:

Overall Immigrant Parents: 83% of the top 40 scholars (33 individuals) had at least one immigrant parent.
H-1B Visas: 75% (30 of 40) had parents who worked in the United States on H-1B visas.

International Students: 68% (27 of 40) had a parent who initially came to the U.S. as an international student and later obtained H-1B status.

Got something more current??

Let’s deal in facts AND current , something immigration proponents seem unable to do.

Computer science college seniors in the United States outperform peers in China, India and Russia, new research says
U.S. undergraduate programs appear to produce more skilled computer science students on average, according to Stanford-led research.

“ There is this sense in the public that the high quality of STEM programs in the United States is driven by its international students,” Loyalka said. “Our data show that’s not the case. The results hold if we only consider domestic students in the U.S.”

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/computer-science-college-seniors-us-outperform-peers-china-india-and-russia-new-research-says

So no skills shortage and US students are superior

Where are the democrats fighting for US workers??

Why are the broligarchs who run these companies throwing millions and millions at Trump and MAGA? 🤔

That’s a better question. And it’s laughable that you think union busters like Trump and Vance are fighting for US workers.

Clearly you have a lack of reading comprehension

Show us a single democrat fighting to repeal h1b?

Show us a single democrat fighting to e ill eliminate Optional Practical Training visas?

Until democrats do something , I will stick with the evil that has tried to, without a job I can’t care about other priorities

So please point us to a single democrat willing to favor US workers over foreign workers!!!!!!

I've worked in the tech industry for 20+ years, and I've seen H1s flood the industry, and more and more jobs offshored, so I know a bit about this whole situation.

But, your attitude really scares me. It reminds me of how Germans tolerated the evil that his Hitler because at least they had jobs. Just how much evil are you willing to accept for your job? People like you are willing to sell their souls to the devil for a job. If there was an apocalypse, people like you would be the ones to eat a baby because you were starving.

Trump and people like you have shown me that our civilization is just a veneer, that underneath this "great America", it's full of racist, selfish aholes who would support someone like Hitler if it meant that they could have a job and nice things.

Try raising a family without a job and health insurance.

Should I really focus on anything else ??

Would you?

Sounds a lot like what was told to factory workers. Chin up. This replacement is for your benefit

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Who’s “we”?

You seem confused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

GenX continues to shoot themselves in the foot. Not going to be enough people to wipe their @sses in 20 years, especially when the cancer incidence goes up.

Oh well! Unintended consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Who’s “we”?

You seem confused.

Actually you do, since you can’t seem to answer a basic question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Who’s “we”?

You seem confused.

Actually you do, since you can’t seem to answer a basic question.

Democrats don't get to set the debate calendar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Who’s “we”?

You seem confused.

Actually you do, since you can’t seem to answer a basic question.

Democrats don't get to set the debate calendar.

DP... when someone asks a question, and you fail to answer it, you've lost the debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve tried to explain it to my friends - it really is damaging to US workers - and they all think I’m xenophobic.

Pretty much every major US company spends tons and tons on technology- more than the average person probably realizes because it’s not obvious how complicated back end tech stacks have become- and most of those people (often through foreign companies with a small US footprint) are offshore around the world with a small US based team that is often 50%+ foreign too because of h1b visas. I see it every day, and I see how carefully companies set things up so the extent of it is not obvious.

I am not anti immigrant. But when I hear of US kids spending 400k on college degrees and then struggling to find work, it bothers me.

Companies do not train people, there seems to be zero incentive. Why?

An IT manager of a big a company who’s an immigrant told me the program is terrible, because it leads to discrimination against U.S. citizens and near slavery for the visa holders. So, managers who are being honest see there’s a problem with how the program works.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Who’s “we”?

You seem confused.

Actually you do, since you can’t seem to answer a basic question.

Democrats don't get to set the debate calendar.

DP... when someone asks a question, and you fail to answer it, you've lost the debate.

Nah, the Democrats are clueless, they don't want to know the answers. They'll just keep asking questions to delay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2016 Competition Data

According to the 2017 NFAP policy brief analyzing the 2016 cohort of the top 40 competitors:

Overall Immigrant Parents: 83% of the top 40 scholars (33 individuals) had at least one immigrant parent.
H-1B Visas: 75% (30 of 40) had parents who worked in the United States on H-1B visas.

International Students: 68% (27 of 40) had a parent who initially came to the U.S. as an international student and later obtained H-1B status.

Got something more current??

Let’s deal in facts AND current , something immigration proponents seem unable to do.

Computer science college seniors in the United States outperform peers in China, India and Russia, new research says
U.S. undergraduate programs appear to produce more skilled computer science students on average, according to Stanford-led research.

“ There is this sense in the public that the high quality of STEM programs in the United States is driven by its international students,” Loyalka said. “Our data show that’s not the case. The results hold if we only consider domestic students in the U.S.”

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/computer-science-college-seniors-us-outperform-peers-china-india-and-russia-new-research-says

So no skills shortage and US students are superior

Where are the democrats fighting for US workers??

Why are the broligarchs who run these companies throwing millions and millions at Trump and MAGA? 🤔

That’s a better question. And it’s laughable that you think union busters like Trump and Vance are fighting for US workers.

Clearly you have a lack of reading comprehension

Show us a single democrat fighting to repeal h1b?

Show us a single democrat fighting to e ill eliminate Optional Practical Training visas?

Until democrats do something , I will stick with the evil that has tried to, without a job I can’t care about other priorities

So please point us to a single democrat willing to favor US workers over foreign workers!!!!!!

I've worked in the tech industry for 20+ years, and I've seen H1s flood the industry, and more and more jobs offshored, so I know a bit about this whole situation.

But, your attitude really scares me. It reminds me of how Germans tolerated the evil that his Hitler because at least they had jobs. Just how much evil are you willing to accept for your job? People like you are willing to sell their souls to the devil for a job. If there was an apocalypse, people like you would be the ones to eat a baby because you were starving.

Trump and people like you have shown me that our civilization is just a veneer, that underneath this "great America", it's full of racist, selfish aholes who would support someone like Hitler if it meant that they could have a job and nice things.

DP
Again, nice try. We can see what you’re doing.

Pp wasn’t racist.

Never said it was about racism. It's about supporting evil (^PP's choice word) leaders just because you think your job prospects will be better.

FYI - the job market sucks right now because of Trump, including for CS, so really, the ^PP support of Trump is ironic.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Western kids are demoralized by the presence of harder working higher performing Asians.
If he got rid of the immigrants, Western civilization kids would work harder and demonstrate their genius.

At “woke” colleges to study the “science” that MAGA hates, the “math” that MAGA says is fake. Mmkay.

Oh bless your little heart

Meanwhile back in the real world, not the circle jerk you imagine, ….

From 2020-2025, the @universityofky has filed for over 800 H1B labor condition applications.

Instead of hiring qualified Kentuckians or Americans, it’s hiring foreigners.

UK receives over $619 million dollars in state and federal taxpayer funding annually.

If the university isn’t able to educate and train Americans for these positions, it should NOT be receiving any tax benefits or taxpayer funding.

Democrats are suing to KEEP this abuse intact .

They must really think workers are stupid

Simply shows that there are no qualified Kentuckians.

They why is university of Kentucky , dedicated to training skilled labor, getting 619,000,000 dollars from the federal government???

Seems if the university is unable to train people they should get nothing and be on their own

But in the circle jerk that is racist or fascist or some other negative accusation

Come back and tell us how many American students want to do a PhD and postdoc .

H-1B don't want to do PhD or postdoc either. They just want a visa and green card. Many continue to register in the work visa lotteries until they get an h-1b so they can leave academia. This is very common for F1s.

So why don’t you blame the system that creates the conditions for H1 visas?

You're just tired of the albatross hanging around your neck.

What does this even mean?

The proposals aren't really valid or meaningful; the Democrats just don't want the consequences for their actions.

The Republicans continue to gaslight you and you continue to fall for it.

We really do want less immigration overall.

Ironic then that Trump's wife and her entire family as all well as Usha Vance's family are immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve tried to explain it to my friends - it really is damaging to US workers - and they all think I’m xenophobic.

Pretty much every major US company spends tons and tons on technology- more than the average person probably realizes because it’s not obvious how complicated back end tech stacks have become- and most of those people (often through foreign companies with a small US footprint) are offshore around the world with a small US based team that is often 50%+ foreign too because of h1b visas. I see it every day, and I see how carefully companies set things up so the extent of it is not obvious.

I am not anti immigrant. But when I hear of US kids spending 400k on college degrees and then struggling to find work, it bothers me.

Companies do not train people, there seems to be zero incentive. Why?

An IT manager of a big a company who’s an immigrant told me the program is terrible, because it leads to discrimination against U.S. citizens and near slavery for the visa holders. So, managers who are being honest see there’s a problem with how the program works.

the only advocates for H1B and OPT and L1 visa programs are
- businesses that want cheap labor
- the cheap labor desperate to leave India
- dumb progressives that worry about RACISM

any yet somehow it has become fashionable among progressives to hire an indentured servant from half way around the planet instead of hiring your neighbors children.