How can rational people believe in any religion?

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


I'm not religious, but seriously, have you even looked at nature? It's totally amazing and totally capable of doing all that you list. Maybe that in itself is a form of religion or spirituality


Abiogenesis has never been observed in nature.


And yet all the building blocks necessary have been:

“Science has observed and replicated key individual steps, including the synthesis of amino acids, nucleotides, and self-replicating RNA in lab settings, confirming that the chemical foundations of life can arise from inorganic materials“

All that is missing is the billions of years necessary for it to happen. So just be patient. lol…


Weak sauce, bro.

“Here’s all this sheet metal, fiberglass, wires, and fabric. Let’s just wait around until it assembles itself into a jumbo jet.”


No no no no no. You could not be more wrong, and you would not have a more nonsensical response if your cat walked on your keyboard. It is the total opposite.

There is evidence, lots of it, repeatable in a lab. Also, those same building block elements found in space. Plus we have a nearly infinite list of chemicals combining without intervention on their own without intervention.

What there is ZERO evidence for is your deity. THAT'S what's crazy about your position. You demand 100% perfect repeatable evidence for the scientific position and yet require 0% for your own. Hypocrite much?


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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


I didn't say you did. It's the royal you.

Why pose the question if "you" can't answer for yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


Liar. No atheist here has claimed to have the answers to everything. Atheists are OK with uncertainty. We don't need myths to cover up any gaps in science.


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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


Liar. No atheist here has claimed to have the answers to everything. Atheists are OK with uncertainty. We don't need myths to cover up any gaps in science.




How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


Liar. No atheist here has claimed to have the answers to everything. Atheists are OK with uncertainty. We don't need myths to cover up any gaps in science.




Exactly. Neil deGrasse Tyson summed this up pretty nicely. He called it the God of the gaps.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bwHqrooeYmw
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


Liar. No atheist here has claimed to have the answers to everything. Atheists are OK with uncertainty. We don't need myths to cover up any gaps in science.




How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Why exactly do you think that non-religious people believe those things?

How can believers believe that their gods arose from nothing, etc?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


Liar. No atheist here has claimed to have the answers to everything. Atheists are OK with uncertainty. We don't need myths to cover up any gaps in science.




How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Some molecules came together on Earth and started to replicate about 4 billion years ago? Then evolution happened?

Not sure how your argument validates the existence of Zeus or the Spaghetti Monster.
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


BS. Atheists have to admit there are many things we don’t know, Because they don’t have the ability to just make sh*t up to fill in the blanks and call it “faith”.
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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Where did god come from?



You really think that a topic debated by theologians, philosophers, academics, etc, for hundreds/thousands of years is going to be answered definitively here on dcum?


If the earlier question posed was “how can you believe something arose from nothing” this would be the related question for believers.

Why ask it of others if you can’t answer for yourself?



I didn’t ask that question.

Atheists don’t have the answers either; they don’t know something arose from nothing.


But atheists don’t claim to have the answers (yet). Believers do.


The atheists here absolutely claim to have the answers to everything, and won’t accept that anyone else has a different view.


Liar. No atheist here has claimed to have the answers to everything. Atheists are OK with uncertainty. We don't need myths to cover up any gaps in science.




How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter


Why are you just reposting this? Do you want the answer you got to this to be reposted again? Go back and read it. Short version: they don’t.
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