How can rational people believe in any religion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We confirmed the existence of yet another water-based planet about a 100 light years from here. Currently called TOI-1452b. About seven times bigger than Earth and all water.

It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere. Space is immense. And there is not anything particularly unique about Earth compared to the billions of galaxies and trillions of planets.

Show me your god. Where is your Earth god?

We don’t have a single confirmed water based planet outside of earth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We confirmed the existence of yet another water-based planet about a 100 light years from here. Currently called TOI-1452b. About seven times bigger than Earth and all water.

It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere. Space is immense. And there is not anything particularly unique about Earth compared to the billions of galaxies and trillions of planets.

Show me your god. Where is your Earth god?

To be 100% direct: There is no planet outside our solar system where the presence of liquid water has been definitively confirmed.

Do not listen to any anonymous person posting “facts” on the internet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like the balanced approach of PP and what the benefits are. In my mind, the benefits do not outweigh the manipulation and violence of religion that we have seen proven out time and again. Usually by people who are using the religion for their own purposes, unfortunately, and are not true followers.

Anything can be manipulated. Look at how democracy in the US is being manipulated and abused right now.

Don't disagree at all. But religion is one of the worst things to manipulate because it gives people hope, preys upon their fears and their sense of worth. Both can be true.

Why is giving people hope negative?

Read, please. The "manipulation" of hope is the evil part. The manipulation of religion is the evil part. And every single religion over time has had its share of manipulators and charlatans. There's serious data to this.

That’s not really controversial—any system involving humans will attract some bad actors.

Every government has corruption, therefore all governments are equally bad.

Every science field has fraud cases, therefore science itself isn’t reliable.

There’s serious data to the fact that manipulators and charlatans have existed in every system inhabited and by humans.

And run/administrated/controlled by human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We confirmed the existence of yet another water-based planet about a 100 light years from here. Currently called TOI-1452b. About seven times bigger than Earth and all water.

It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere. Space is immense. And there is not anything particularly unique about Earth compared to the billions of galaxies and trillions of planets.

Show me your god. Where is your Earth god?

After many comments about religious people making up things to explain the world and make themselves feel better, an anti-religious person pointedly makes up a “fact” to manipulate people’s thoughts and then falls silent when corrected.

The irony and hypocrisy are astounding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Belief is not rational. It’s why faiths invest so much time and effort in indoctrinating children when they’re young. The more bogus the story, the more likely they are to insulate their children from the outside world in the hopes that it sticks. They know their crap is so flimsy and nonsensical it can’t survive outside scrutiny.

Remember this every time one of these nuts talks about public schools or drag queens “indoctrinating” children. Mental and physical abuse is all they know and they can’t help but project. These people really believe they “own” children.

It’s also why they have a million kids. Easiest form of recruitment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We confirmed the existence of yet another water-based planet about a 100 light years from here. Currently called TOI-1452b. About seven times bigger than Earth and all water.

It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere. Space is immense. And there is not anything particularly unique about Earth compared to the billions of galaxies and trillions of planets.

Show me your god. Where is your Earth god?

After many comments about religious people making up things to explain the world and make themselves feel better, an anti-religious person pointedly makes up a “fact” to manipulate people’s thoughts and then falls silent when corrected.

The irony and hypocrisy are astounding.

I'm not the PP, but since you're gonna ad hom them and ignore the point,

"TOI-1452 b is a super-Earth exoplanet located approximately 100 light-years away in the Draco constellation, orbiting a red dwarf star in a temperate zone where liquid water could exist. "

Yes, "could" not "does". But changing the word does not change their point. Also:

https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Hubble_helps_discover_a_new_type_of_planet_largely_composed_of_water

Researchers have found evidence for the existence of a new type of planet they have called a “water world,” where water makes up a large fraction of the entire planet. These worlds, discovered in a planetary system 218 light-years away, are unlike any planets in our Solar System.

Now, if you want to reply to PP with substance, why don't you answer the question they asked? Could it be because you can't?

Maybe next time a PP "falls silent" you should just let it lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We confirmed the existence of yet another water-based planet about a 100 light years from here. Currently called TOI-1452b. About seven times bigger than Earth and all water.

It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere. Space is immense. And there is not anything particularly unique about Earth compared to the billions of galaxies and trillions of planets.

Show me your god. Where is your Earth god?

After many comments about religious people making up things to explain the world and make themselves feel better, an anti-religious person pointedly makes up a “fact” to manipulate people’s thoughts and then falls silent when corrected.

The irony and hypocrisy are astounding.

I'm not the PP, but since you're gonna ad hom them and ignore the point,

"TOI-1452 b is a super-Earth exoplanet located approximately 100 light-years away in the Draco constellation, orbiting a red dwarf star in a temperate zone where liquid water could exist. "

Yes, "could" not "does". But changing the word does not change their point. Also:

https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Hubble_helps_discover_a_new_type_of_planet_largely_composed_of_water

Researchers have found evidence for the existence of a new type of planet they have called a “water world,” where water makes up a large fraction of the entire planet. These worlds, discovered in a planetary system 218 light-years away, are unlike any planets in our Solar System.

Now, if you want to reply to PP with substance, why don't you answer the question they asked? Could it be because you can't?

Maybe next time a PP "falls silent" you should just let it lie.

“Water wasn’t directly detected, but by comparing the sizes and masses of the planets to models, they conclude that a significant fraction of their volume — up to half of it — should be made of materials that are lighter than rock but heavier than hydrogen or helium (which constitute the bulk of gas-giant planets like Jupiter). The most common candidate material is water.“

It might be water. But, it might not be.

Nothing has been confirmed.

[Anonymous]

How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

There is certainly room to believe these things. If doubt weren't a real pull, faith wouldn't be as powerful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

Anyone? Dp. I am interested in the answers. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

I don't believe any of those things. And if you genuinely believe that is what most non-religious people think, then you haven't talked to any, or haven't listened when you did. Because those points been explained many times - including in this very thread.

So your strawman is a massive fail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

I don't believe any of those things. And if you genuinely believe that is what most non-religious people think, then you haven't talked to any, or haven't listened when you did. Because those points been explained many times - including in this very thread.

So your strawman is a massive fail.

Np: I don’t think the pp was straw manning. I think many of us are genuinely curious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

I don't believe any of those things. And if you genuinely believe that is what most non-religious people think, then you haven't talked to any, or haven't listened when you did. Because those points been explained many times - including in this very thread.

So your strawman is a massive fail.

Np: I don’t think the pp was straw manning. I think many of us are genuinely curious.

No, you are not. You are strawman-ing. Find an atheist who claims to believe any of the things quoted. If you can't that makes it 100% strawman.

(with the exception of life arose from non-life, which everyone belives, since life is here and at one time was not).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

I don't believe any of those things. And if you genuinely believe that is what most non-religious people think, then you haven't talked to any, or haven't listened when you did. Because those points been explained many times - including in this very thread.

So your strawman is a massive fail.

Np: I don’t think the pp was straw manning. I think many of us are genuinely curious.

No, you are not. You are strawman-ing. Find an atheist who claims to believe any of the things quoted. If you can't that makes it 100% strawman.

(with the exception of life arose from non-life, which everyone belives, since life is here and at one time was not).

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Anonymous wrote:How can non-religious people believe:

- Something arose from nothing
- Order emerged from chaos
- Life arose from non-life
- The personal arose from the non-personal
- Reason emerged from non-reason
- Morality arose from matter

I don't believe any of those things. And if you genuinely believe that is what most non-religious people think, then you haven't talked to any, or haven't listened when you did. Because those points been explained many times - including in this very thread.

So your strawman is a massive fail.

Np: I don’t think the pp was straw manning. I think many of us are genuinely curious.

No, you are not. You are strawman-ing. Find an atheist who claims to believe any of the things quoted. If you can't that makes it 100% strawman.

(with the exception of life arose from non-life, which everyone belives, since life is here and at one time was not).

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