Why racial segregation is unacceptable but socioeconomic segregation is ok in private schools

[Anonymous]

Socioeconomic diversity requires someone to pay the tuition for the poor families. It is extremely expensive and most of the private schools are throwing millions at this annually. Perhaps they should cut down the financial aid budgets and put their money to better use. Let these financial aid kids go to public school instead.

[Anonymous]

We are tired of having to pay for other kids because their parents don’t have their act together and need financial aid. It isn’t cute that your kid is poor, it is just a drain on the school’s resources and all the other parents who are covering your bills.

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Anonymous wrote:We are tired of having to pay for other kids because their parents don’t have their act together and need financial aid. It isn’t cute that your kid is poor, it is just a drain on the school’s resources and all the other parents who are covering your bills.

So stop doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:The only way for private schools to be more economically diverse in this area to offer school vouchers so that any kid can go to any school they want and are capable of getting in. The vouchers would have to be enough to at least the tuition amount of the lowest private school. This program would force public schools to shape up their curriculum and quality if they want to stay open. Open competition is always a good thing.

Texas is starting this program next year and you can already see the MC families gaming the system to get their kids priority. Private school applications at my kids’ school was up 270% this year. Really it is taking money away from the public schools and sponsoring MC families to go to private school. My kid was already in private with ADHD - we have parents pay tuition so this is just a discount for already wealthy people. The politicians know this.

It's not taking money away, the money follows the kids. If the MC kid isn't there, the school doesn't get the money. The school that kid goes to gets instead. What's the problem?

Let me explain - I’ll make the math easy.

Say a public school gets 10k for a 10 kid class now. With the vouchers 5 of those public school kids go to private school and augment that 2x. The public school now has 5k and the private (now with 10k extra) can raise their tuition 7%, plus they still have large endowments to buy extras that the public school cannot afford. The private school kids get much much more, while the public schools suffer more. It’s really very simple.

It will pass legislation because people like me want the discount and people like you think you can get a better education. It’s already got my vote and my kids would be attending private anyway. So my tax money earmarked for a public school I don’t use is now going to subsidize my kid instead of yours.

Forgot to mention - those private schools that will accept he influx of ex-public kids will just get harder to get into, so they’ll rely more on legacy and recommendations - so if you’re not already upper class the door will shut tight and be sealed.

As it is now.

Yes, but worse. The wealthy public school kids will flee - what we are already seeing in TX - and the non-legacy kids will have to fight with those legacy children whose parents went to private but choose the send their kids public. Because the public schools will retain the kids whose parents chose/couldnt logistically/ or don’t care to apply out. Plus if your kid is in a school where the teachers aren’t fully engaged or know your child personally (because there’s 35 of them) then teacher recommendations will not equal those at better schools all else being equal. Family recommendations from within the community also carry weight - not available for underprivileged or MC people.

Finally we get to the real reason for crappy schools. That only took 10 pages. I still for the life of me cannot understand how someone unemployed on welfare can’t be engaged in their own child’s education. They have the time. It’s not like they’re working.

Why do you use an example of the unemployed or welfare to describe parents at public schools. The OVERWHELMING majority of parents in public schools are employed and not receiving welfare benefits. You are another example of the typical DCUM private school parent, overinflated ego with underwhelming intelligence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are tired of having to pay for other kids because their parents don’t have their act together and need financial aid. It isn’t cute that your kid is poor, it is just a drain on the school’s resources and all the other parents who are covering your bills.

So stop doing it.

Most parents would love to decrease the financial aid budget and put those funds where they would benefit the children.

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Anonymous wrote:We are tired of having to pay for other kids because their parents don’t have their act together and need financial aid. It isn’t cute that your kid is poor, it is just a drain on the school’s resources and all the other parents who are covering your bills.

So stop doing it.

Most parents would love to decrease the financial aid budget and put those funds where they would benefit the children.

That’s ok. That aid goes to upper middle class families, not to lower income families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Socioeconomic diversity requires someone to pay the tuition for the poor families. It is extremely expensive and most of the private schools are throwing millions at this annually. Perhaps they should cut down the financial aid budgets and put their money to better use. Let these financial aid kids go to public school instead.

You guys are obtuse AF. You do understand that the 60k price of these schools is not the actual price. It’s called tuition discounting. Plenty of “financial aid kids” have resources and would not be going to public school if they didn’t have aid at a “60k” school. They would be going to less expensive private schools. The schools actually care more about socioeconomic diversity than racial diversity, there are no programs to increase applications for minorities the financial aid programs exist to allow for socioeconomic diversity which is correlated with racial diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:We are tired of having to pay for other kids because their parents don’t have their act together and need financial aid. It isn’t cute that your kid is poor, it is just a drain on the school’s resources and all the other parents who are covering your bills.

So stop doing it.

Most parents would love to decrease the financial aid budget and put those funds where they would benefit the children.

That’s ok. That aid goes to upper middle class families, not to lower income families.

How would you know?

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Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.

As someone who truly believes my kids belong among the masses I cannot stand people who drive their kids around in cars rather than having them solely ride public transportation, like my family does. People who drive their families in cars simply think they are better than those of us on the bus and metro, they don't think their kids could possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. And my values and experience are clearly the only right ones.

You sarcastically accidentally backed yourself into a sensible opinion.

[Anonymous]

BREAKING: most rich people are aholes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Socioeconomic diversity requires someone to pay the tuition for the poor families. It is extremely expensive and most of the private schools are throwing millions at this annually. Perhaps they should cut down the financial aid budgets and put their money to better use. Let these financial aid kids go to public school instead.

You guys are obtuse AF. You do understand that the 60k price of these schools is not the actual price. It’s called tuition discounting. Plenty of “financial aid kids” have resources and would not be going to public school if they didn’t have aid at a “60k” school. They would be going to less expensive private schools. The schools actually care more about socioeconomic diversity than racial diversity, there are no programs to increase applications for minorities the financial aid programs exist to allow for socioeconomic diversity which is correlated with racial diversity.

Wow you are naive. We understand that poor people incorrectly consider this a discount. It is not. The people paying the bills view financial aid as charity. We are paying the bills for parents who cannot afford the tuition. We also understand that there are other options besides public school like cheap privates, however we consider those equivalent to public school. Go to public school or a cheap private. We don't care. Stop mooching.

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Anonymous wrote:We are tired of having to pay for other kids because their parents don’t have their act together and need financial aid. It isn’t cute that your kid is poor, it is just a drain on the school’s resources and all the other parents who are covering your bills.

So stop doing it.

Most parents would love to decrease the financial aid budget and put those funds where they would benefit the children.

That’s ok. That aid goes to upper middle class families, not to lower income families.

How would you know?

Because there are plenty of people who have direct knowledge of admissions practices. Also, many of us aren’t first generation dc private school families. We know the parents of the kids we went to school with who receive financial aid. The OP’s question reflects a racial blind spot. You guys assume that the minority (black) kids are on financial aid, when the majority who receive aid are white people who blend in with the general white majority of these schools. So in fact the schools already care about socioeconomic diversity more than racial diversity, but most can’t see past their racial biases to see it.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: most rich people are aholes.

exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: most rich people are aholes.

Why? These private schools already have financial aid budgets in the millions.

Who is the ahole? Probably the parents who won't support their family and ask the private school community for financial aid. Work a little harder and match your income to your expenses.

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Anonymous wrote:The only way for private schools to be more economically diverse in this area to offer school vouchers so that any kid can go to any school they want and are capable of getting in. The vouchers would have to be enough to at least the tuition amount of the lowest private school. This program would force public schools to shape up their curriculum and quality if they want to stay open. Open competition is always a good thing.

Interesting but not thought out. Maybe if public schools also got as much funding per pupil as private schools, this might make sense. But then there wouldn’t be very many private schools.

You are an idiot. Public schools (particularly in this area) already get more funding per pupil than private schools.

You are saying DC public schools spend more than 60k per pupil each year? Do some reading. I think half your brain is missing or you have led in your pipes.

Moved here from Los Angeles where it costs close to 60k per year for a private school education but costs the public school system about 20k per year per student for a public school education. You’d think with 60k (which sometimes doesn’t even include other things you have to pay for) private schools could do even more than they already do. Caitlin Flannagan wrote some interesting stuff on this issue.