What is so special about UVA, W&M, VT!?!??

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Anonymous wrote:A degree from UVA is Ivy-league because UVA is one of the original Public Ivies.

Public Ivies offer the same standard of education as the Ivies, in a public school environment and at a public school cost. These schools are more than just non-Ivies — they're some of the best schools you can attend in the world today.

Just search "best public universities in USA" and you'll find UVA.

UVA and W&Mary are fine schools but they do not have the same peer group as ivy+. VT is not anywhere close.
The education is not the same for this reason. Classes cannot progress at the same depth and pace at a school with fewer than a quarter of the student body with top 1% scores, even lower at (VT). versus the ivy+ with half or more of the class with 99%ile sores, 3/4 or more with top 3% scores.
Do the pre-TO comparison and look up the SAT data from years they would have tested.

Using Pre-TO and the %iles at the time:
MIT, Harvard, Princeton, Penn, Yale, Duke, Brown, Stanford, Hopkins, WashU, Vanderbilt have medians around 99th%ile.
Dartmouth, Cornell, Northwestern, Georgetown, Williams, Amherst and Swarthmore are slightly lower ranges with median SAT /act around the 97-98%ile, slightly different but not likely felt significantly as a peer group experience.
Chicago and Columbia did not publish pre-TO data, likely were lower than the top group or they would have published.

UVA and William and Mary show median test scores around 94%ile, top quarter roughly corresponds to just below the median of the top schools. That creates a different peer group from the top two groups.
Virginia Tech has median test scores around the 85%ile. The top quarter of VT corresponds to the median of UVA/WM. VT is a significantly different different peer group from UVA and William and Mary, thus the educational experience will be different.

Peer group matters for teaching: professors know it, deans know it, and top companies and grad/professional schools know it.

Which of these groups do you teach?

None, because if she did she would know what a ridiculous take it is.

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https://uvafinance.virginia.edu/sites/uvafinance/files/2024-01/2024-25%20Components%20of%20Mandatory%20Fees%20%281%29.pdf

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UVa has athletic fees as noted in the link above

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Which would be best for a gay student?

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Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

I doubt it.

Doubt what?

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Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

I doubt it.

Doubt what?

Doubt the claim.

Provide slightly more concrete evidence that there are more gay men at UVA and W&M.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster who originally said W&M was pricey for in-state tuition. I still think that. I also didn't say that it was the most expensive school out there or that it wasn't worth it. If one of my kids wanted to go there, I'd happily pay.

Out of curiosity, I looked up Michigan's tuition and fees, which are $18,346. W&M's tuition and fees are $26,456. UVM's tuition and fees are $19,996. All exclusive of housing, of course.

What is peculiar about W&M fees compared to the other VA publics is a $1 284 a semester “auxiliary fee” charge and a $1,204 a semester fee for “intercollegiate athletics” which adds up to $4,084, hence the surcharge over, say, UVA. I asked about that because DD has no interest in “intercollegiate athletics” but they were firm it had to be paid.

Many schools are now passing on the costs of NIL to their students. At least W&M is up front about what it’s for and doesn’t hide it?

The state requires public schools to publish fees. All state four year colleges have intercollegiate athletics fees ranging from $732 at VT to $4,186 at VMI.

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UVA does not have an intercollegiate athletic fee. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026#:~:text=Student%20Health%20Insurance:%20All%20students%20at%20the,the%20comparable%20plan%20criteria%2C%20the%20student%20will

All of the 4 year public schools in Virginia have intercollegiate athletics fees.

https://www.schev.edu/home/showpublisheddocument/4500/638895467464330000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

100% W&M. Much higher percentage of LGTBQIA+ students, as well as faculty, plus most faculty who are not, are at least adjacent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

I doubt it.

Doubt what?

Doubt the claim.

Provide slightly more concrete evidence that there are more gay men at UVA and W&M.

Gay men are significantly less likely to be in engineering and the majority of male undergrads at VT are in the school of engineering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

Add the cadets as well.

I doubt it.

Doubt what?

Doubt the claim.

Provide slightly more concrete evidence that there are more gay men at UVA and W&M.

Gay men are significantly less likely to be in engineering and the majority of male undergrads at VT are in the school of engineering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would be best for a gay student?

UVA or W&M by far. Both have larger gay populations. Tech has more men but less gay men.

Add the cadets as well.

I doubt it.

Doubt what?

Doubt the claim.

Provide slightly more concrete evidence that there are more gay men at UVA and W&M.

Gay men are significantly less likely to be in engineering and the majority of male undergrads at VT are in the school of engineering.

[Anonymous]

Add the cadets as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Add the cadets as well.

Cadets might be in the closet but there are a lot of gay or bisexual cadets.