What is so special about UVA, W&M, VT!?!??

[Anonymous]

What a troll post.

[Anonymous]

In the first place, they are all excellent schools, better than most flagships nationally.

Both UVA and W&M have a history most colleges don't. I grew up in the private school, expensive private / elite college world, and going to UVA and W&M was very, very respectable. They do have prestige.

Add to it attractive campuses and in state tuition, can't you now understand why they are so popular and sought after?

[Anonymous]

New universities can and should emerge over time. UCLA was the Southern California branch of Berkeley when it was created only a little more than a hundred years ago. In the original limited USNWR ranking in the mid-1980s it was not even included. Recently, it has been at the top among public universities in the country in USNWR.

[Anonymous]

Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New universities can and should emerge over time. UCLA was the Southern California branch of Berkeley when it was created only a little more than a hundred years ago. In the original limited USNWR ranking in the mid-1980s it was not even included. Recently, it has been at the top among public universities in the country in USNWR.

MIT was founded by a W&M alumnus and former UVA professor. It passed those schools by in science and engineering in no time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

Georgetown yield rate is 47%. UVA OOS yield rate is 24%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

Georgetown yield rate is 47%. UVA OOS yield rate is 24%.

Yes. Georgetown better in that important sense.
Here is cross admit result. Parchment is just another bit of data that you can believe or not.
UVA 55%
Georgetown 45%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

Georgetown yield rate is 47%. UVA OOS yield rate is 24%.

Yes. Georgetown better in that important sense.
Here is cross admit result. Parchment is just another bit of data that you can believe or not.
UVA 55%
Georgetown 45%

^^ But this includes UVA instate so does not say much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

Georgetown yield rate is 47%. UVA OOS yield rate is 24%.

This does not show IS and OOS split.
The bar is lower for UVA IS so that is a true backup for many Virginians.
UVA OOS is a harder admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W&M is older than several Ivys - founded in 1693, I think.

UVa says founded 1819, but I think classes did not start that year.

VT is much newer, created explicitly to be the land-grant university.

W&M is the second oldest school in the country!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in DC and I see VA posters talk about these schools as if they're ivies. Why??? I understand that UVA has a certain mystique as it's VA's only "elite"-approaching school, but, frankly, UVA isn't even Georgetown, nevermind Stanford or Yale.

William and Mary is unique because of its size and also has some level of mystique but, again, I don't understand the commotion. It's essentially a public Wake Forest. Why?

Same story with VT. Even less of a reason to get into a twist because it's just like every other large public school in the nation. It has nice architecture, sure, but...so what?!

Can anyone enlighten me?

SMH

Maybe I can put it in terms you understand: my kid picked UVA over an Ivy and a top SLAC because ... money!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instate tuition for Virginians.

This!

Honestly. People are such idiots today. They want to waste everyone’s time here instead of doing a simple google:

UVA: $40,000 a year x 4 = $160,000
Privates; $100k (yes NYU has surpassed the mark and USC is $99,400) = $400,000

$400,000 - $160,000 =$240,000.00


That’s higher if, like most parents, you haven’t saved $240k so are paying in after-tax dollars, so let’s say $300,000 savings x 3 VA kids = $1.2 million in savings.

So, if your kid can get in, bank the difference, let it compound, then pay to grad school or down pain a house.

We did this and were able to send our kid to Oxford and now Stanford Law School

This! We have a second year at UVA and cost all in has been around 35/36k p/year. Great value, great education, great resources, great opportunities.

[Anonymous]

I am independent college counselor and I am from New England.

The only other state that has an elite trio like Virginia's is California. But the UC schools, especially Berkeley, have a huge class availability issue. Berkeley's 4-year graduation rate is in the low 80s as opposed to UVA's low 90s. I am not arguing that the UCs aren't impressive, they absolutely are, just that Virginia is the clearly second and in some ways better for students.

The only other states with three strong state schools are Florida and North Carolina. But the third school in these states are University of Southern Florida and UNC Charlotte respectively, and these can't compare to Virginia Tech. Georgia, Michigan, Texas - none of them have a very strong third school.

To OP: come on, OP. You may not care about affordability but is it such a misery why others do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

Georgetown yield rate is 47%. UVA OOS yield rate is 24%.

This does not show IS and OOS split.
The bar is lower for UVA IS so that is a true backup for many Virginians.
UVA OOS is a harder admit.

24% is the UVA OOS yield rate. Georgetown is not a state school so there is no in-state/OOS split.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at it from the perspective of a full pay applicant.

Georgetown Acceptance rate: 12%

OOS UVA: 9%

It is not just Virginians who want to go to UVA.

Georgetown yield rate is 47%. UVA OOS yield rate is 24%.

This does not show IS and OOS split.
The bar is lower for UVA IS so that is a true backup for many Virginians.
UVA OOS is a harder admit.

24% is the UVA OOS yield rate. Georgetown is not a state school so there is no in-state/OOS split.

UVA's in-state yield rate is 2.6X higher than OOS yield rate. Clearly cost matters.