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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

Yes, this is the same story our coach has shared and while he admits there were a lot of issues with RS it was not handled well by the rogue board members and everyone could have been saved a lot of pain and suffering if ML had tried to work with people instead of a straight up takeover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

This self-serving tall tale also ignores the harm to many teams and players caused by ML’s bad judgment and decision to go off half-cocked on his takeover attempt instead of working proactively and professionally to address his concerns. My DD’s team’s season and others were dramatically disrupted. Not to mention the damage the timing of his chaos (just before tryouts) did to the club, which he had a fiduciary obligation to protect.

More importantly he wildly overstated the issues with RS and his animus towards the TF coaches was misguided and off-base. Nothing that’s been established or even credibly alleged warranted his destructive actions. Just ego driven actions by someone who thought he knew best for everyone despite his lack of knowledge, experience, or judgment. Sometimes someone gets lucky with a bet in the market and mistakenly attribute it to merit and think they know everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

Yes, this is the same story our coach has shared and while he admits there were a lot of issues with RS it was not handled well by the rogue board members and everyone could have been saved a lot of pain and suffering if ML had tried to work with people instead of a straight up takeover.

RS had carte blanche to do as he pleased, there was no ability for people to “just work with him”. ML made some very ill-conceived decisions, some that were downright dumb, but regime change was overdue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

This self-serving tall tale also ignores the harm to many teams and players caused by ML’s bad judgment and decision to go off half-cocked on his takeover attempt instead of working proactively and professionally to address his concerns. My DD’s team’s season and others were dramatically disrupted. Not to mention the damage the timing of his chaos (just before tryouts) did to the club, which he had a fiduciary obligation to protect.

More importantly he wildly overstated the issues with RS and his animus towards the TF coaches was misguided and off-base. Nothing that’s been established or even credibly alleged warranted his destructive actions. Just ego driven actions by someone who thought he knew best for everyone despite his lack of knowledge, experience, or judgment. Sometimes someone gets lucky with a bet in the market and mistakenly attribute it to merit and think they know everything.

Not for one second do I believe that this post came from a parent that was affected. Was this post from ML or more likely RS, given the tone of the post. Maybe someone else from the GRF board. You know people are worried about the prospect of a new club in the area when club officials are posting on the message boards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

This self-serving tall tale also ignores the harm to many teams and players caused by ML’s bad judgment and decision to go off half-cocked on his takeover attempt instead of working proactively and professionally to address his concerns. My DD’s team’s season and others were dramatically disrupted. Not to mention the damage the timing of his chaos (just before tryouts) did to the club, which he had a fiduciary obligation to protect.

More importantly he wildly overstated the issues with RS and his animus towards the TF coaches was misguided and off-base. Nothing that’s been established or even credibly alleged warranted his destructive actions. Just ego driven actions by someone who thought he knew best for everyone despite his lack of knowledge, experience, or judgment. Sometimes someone gets lucky with a bet in the market and mistakenly attribute it to merit and think they know everything.

Not for one second do I believe that this post came from a parent that was affected. Was this post from ML or more likely RS, given the tone of the post. Maybe someone else from the GRF board. You know people are worried about the prospect of a new club in the area when club officials are posting on the message boards

If you think that you don’t know any of the parents whose kids played on teams whose seasons were thrown into chaos by ML’s actions. The fact that you still try to deny the harm to kids that was caused is telling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

Yes, this is the same story our coach has shared and while he admits there were a lot of issues with RS it was not handled well by the rogue board members and everyone could have been saved a lot of pain and suffering if ML had tried to work with people instead of a straight up takeover.

RS had carte blanche to do as he pleased, there was no ability for people to “just work with him”. ML made some very ill-conceived decisions, some that were downright dumb, but regime change was overdue.

The board has 7 people, not just RS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

Yes, this is the same story our coach has shared and while he admits there were a lot of issues with RS it was not handled well by the rogue board members and everyone could have been saved a lot of pain and suffering if ML had tried to work with people instead of a straight up takeover.

RS had carte blanche to do as he pleased, there was no ability for people to “just work with him”. ML made some very ill-conceived decisions, some that were downright dumb, but regime change was overdue.

The board has 7 people, not just RS.

And regime change happened. The board finally got him to step down and was able to do it in a way that has caused only good things to happen since! Has a single negative thing happened since the board worked together to make this change in october?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

Yes, this is the same story our coach has shared and while he admits there were a lot of issues with RS it was not handled well by the rogue board members and everyone could have been saved a lot of pain and suffering if ML had tried to work with people instead of a straight up takeover.

RS had carte blanche to do as he pleased, there was no ability for people to “just work with him”. ML made some very ill-conceived decisions, some that were downright dumb, but regime change was overdue.

But the board isn't in daily operations of the club. That was all on RS. So why didn't ML work with the rest of the board to make some changes happen? You know, like the one they just made? lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every day they'll post a "we are coming" and "the phoenix is rising" post for GFR folks to talk about it.

If no one talks about it and you aren't "intrigued" because you aren't worried that...

1. Part of your kid's team will leave
2. You'll miss something new and shiny
3. You aren't their "in" crowd
4. You won't get the new badge on your kid's shirt to show off to all your friends

This club would form and just be another local club not to worry and be intrigued by it.

Are you intrigued with what Sterling is doing? HYS? Loudoun? NO but as much as you hate to admit it, you're "worried" friends might leave or their thing might be shinier than yours.

It's OK to admit it, it's the holiday season

We

Incorrect.

1. I have ZERO worry anyone on my DD’s team would leave for this. They all saw first hand how much damage (fmr director) ML’s leadership can do last spring. None of them would volunteer for that.

2. I have no concern I’ll miss something new and shiny bc (a) I know who’s leading this and (b) tried and tested is better.

3. It doesn’t bother me not to be in the country club “in” crowd although the fact that there is an “in” crowd probably tells you everything you need to know about this new club.

4. I’m not worried about a badge for my DD’s jersey — she can go to tryouts just like anyone else.

I am interested in watching this little vanity project crash and burn. I have no reason to feel the same way about Sterling, HYS, or Loudon.

Psychologically speaking, the short answer is yes, you absolutely care. In psychology, the opposite of love or interest isn't hate or "wishing for failure"—it is indifference. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be watching at all. The project wouldn't be on your radar, and its success or failure would have zero impact on your emotional state.

The fact that you are "interested" in seeing it crash and burn means you have an emotional investment in the outcome. Here is the psychological breakdown of why that happens and what it means to "care" in this context:

1. The Phenomenon of Schadenfreude
You are likely experiencing Schadenfreude—a German term for the pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of others.

Why we feel it: It usually happens when we perceive someone as superior, "stuck up," or undeserving of their position. Seeing them fail provides a momentary boost to our own self-esteem.

2. Social Comparison Theory
Psychologically, we often measure our own value by looking at those around us.

If that person’s project succeeds, it might make you feel "less than" or highlight your own perceived stagnancy.

If they fail, the "gap" between you and them closes, or you feel "ahead" again. This is a survival mechanism of the ego to protect your status within a social group.

Now those are FACTS! I understand that some people out there believe they're a male one day, a female the next and a horse on Fridays but facts are facts!

Plenty of people want to see this new club crash and burn b/c there is no excuse for what ML did last Spring at GFR.

Since it is the holiday season, I think a “George Bailey” analogy is appropriate. If ML never tried to take control of the GFR Board, RS would still be ED, PA would be at McLean, NM would still be the TD and the divisions and in-fighting between the TD, coaches, etc. would still exist as they do today. GFR would not be in a better spot today had that not happened. The only ones in a worse spot today are RS, NM and their cronies…and that is why they take every chance they get to take a shot at ML.

Actually, the only person in a worse spot is RS. NM (who is still the TD, btw) and everyone else you mentioned are just fine.

However, ML could have actually tried to work with the BoD instead of (mistakenly) thinking he had a majority vote and then firing people without even a single discussion with the other board members who he made a lot of assumptions about. I have heard from several of the current/past Board members and they had no idea what ML was planning to do - he called the meeting under false pretenses and had all sorts of half assed plans cooked up that no one but he understood or supported! Even the 2 guys who went along with him didn't realize what they were getting themselves into until after the fact! One man tried to takeover of a club a lot of people put many years of work into and it was turned upside down for many families, coaches and staff for months to come because of it. Could he not have just tried to work with everyone? THEN we could have all been happy with the outcome and maybe this thread wouldn't even exist.

Yes, this is the same story our coach has shared and while he admits there were a lot of issues with RS it was not handled well by the rogue board members and everyone could have been saved a lot of pain and suffering if ML had tried to work with people instead of a straight up takeover.

RS had carte blanche to do as he pleased, there was no ability for people to “just work with him”. ML made some very ill-conceived decisions, some that were downright dumb, but regime change was overdue.

The board has 7 people, not just RS.

Not sure I agree that he had carte blanche......I mean, he was the ED but he did answer to the board and the board did ultimately end up coming to an agreement with him that had him stepping down. They just did it in a more humane and less damaging way than what ML tried.

[Anonymous]

does anyone else think its strange there was a public meeting but no information came out of it? they keep posting on social media but they aren't posting any actual information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:does anyone else think its strange there was a public meeting but no information came out of it? they keep posting on social media but they aren't posting any actual information.

Was it public though? I think only people who got emails and RSVP'd were able to attend. It was held at a private country club, not somewhere anyone could just show up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:does anyone else think its strange there was a public meeting but no information came out of it? they keep posting on social media but they aren't posting any actual information.

Yes.