Sign Petition Asking for Boundaries Now, Programs Later

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

That’s how it’s always been as the divide is huge. We are paying for a much better education for some kids while others go without.

That is simply not true. If you moved the population of Whitman into Kennedy’s building with their existing teachers/classes/schedules, the kids would still flourish due to their home life. The better education you seek is right in your school. Without the countywide magnets to pull kids out, each school will have a healthy group of high achievers who can track together. MCPS cannot change the demographics of the county and people from all areas of the county have prioritized shorter commutes to school, so the schools are set. If you don’t like the peers at your child’s school that is a YOU problem and not an MCPS problem. Or you can move. Nobody really cares. Schools choice for the DCC (and only the DCC) is a silly thing to fight for.

I mean... kind of. Yes, if Whitman's kids had Kennedy's buildings, classes, and teachers, they would probably still get good SAT scores on average, and the A students would still be A students, and they'd get into pretty good colleges. But without access to the course offerings that they have now, they obviously would not get as strong an education as they do now, and would not get into the same caliber of colleges as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

That’s how it’s always been as the divide is huge. We are paying for a much better education for some kids while others go without.

That is simply not true. If you moved the population of Whitman into Kennedy’s building with their existing teachers/classes/schedules, the kids would still flourish due to their home life. The better education you seek is right in your school. Without the countywide magnets to pull kids out, each school will have a healthy group of high achievers who can track together. MCPS cannot change the demographics of the county and people from all areas of the county have prioritized shorter commutes to school, so the schools are set. If you don’t like the peers at your child’s school that is a YOU problem and not an MCPS problem. Or you can move. Nobody really cares. Schools choice for the DCC (and only the DCC) is a silly thing to fight for.

The petition asks to slow the regional program implementation and does not ask to keep the DCC and only for the DCC.

The petition very much advocates for school choice for the DCC.

No, it doesn't. In fact it envisions implementation of the regional program model but delayed to ensure it meets community needs. The asks are:

- Separate the boundary studies from the academic programs analysis and consider each proposal on its own merits.

- Support the MCCPTA resolution to delay implementation of the regional model, allowing the final plan to be refined according to actual school attendance and community needs and providing greater clarity on school choice and magnet program access at both the middle and high school levels.

- Reject the current October boundary proposals

[Anonymous]

Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

DCC is up in arms bc the DCC is going to lose its school choice without the consortia, so the DCC needs to be catered to in terms of a replacement.

[Anonymous]

This is also known as “we don’t want to go to Kennedy.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

DCC is up in arms bc the DCC is going to lose its school choice without the consortia, so the DCC needs to be catered to in terms of a replacement.

DCUM: west county gets what it wants because of our advocacy
Also DCUM: DCC should stop advocating for itself, you're so annoying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

DCC is up in arms bc the DCC is going to lose its school choice without the consortia, so the DCC needs to be catered to in terms of a replacement.

DCUM: west county gets what it wants because of our advocacy
Also DCUM: DCC should stop advocating for itself, you're so annoying

Straw man. No one is suggesting you stop advocating for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

At least on DCUM they were actually gleeful about hurting west county people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

Aside from your assumptions about what I thought about the first round options, it sounds like we agree that the second round options in the Woodward blatantly favor the west side school communities.

And yes, we know that there are low income families zoned for BCC. Fyi, it's weird for you to constantly use them as some sort of "gotcha".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

At least on DCUM they were actually gleeful about hurting west county people.

They were responding to blatantly racist posters who claimed to represent west side schools (and nobody claiming to be from the west side expressed any issues with the racism)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

At least on DCUM they were actually gleeful about hurting west county people.

They were responding to blatantly racist posters who claimed to represent west side schools (and nobody claiming to be from the west side expressed any issues with the racism)

Untrue. There was plenty of concern for the FARMS kids that would be zoned to BCC but were suddenly being bused past BCC to Whitman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

Aside from your assumptions about what I thought about the first round options, it sounds like we agree that the second round options in the Woodward blatantly favor the west side school communities.

And yes, we know that there are low income families zoned for BCC. Fyi, it's weird for you to constantly use them as some sort of "gotcha".

It’s also weird that while decrying racism you cling to a school choice model that furthers segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will never get anywhere with an us vs them mentality.

It's not a mentality. The difference in how the east vs west were treated in the second round of options for the Woodward study was immediately apparent. And removing the DCC, which allows students to access coursework that west county students have at their home schools, is a double punch to families.

I get that pointing out differences in treatment is uncomfortable but the differences are real.

You’re missing the point of the above post. The first round also kept Whitman mostly intact and, to the extent that it impacted B-CC, it was primarily the east part of the cluster, where the lower-income families in the B-CC cluster live (yes, there are hundreds of FARMS families at B-CC!). You weren’t bothered by it then because at least “the west” was affected.

Aside from your assumptions about what I thought about the first round options, it sounds like we agree that the second round options in the Woodward blatantly favor the west side school communities.

And yes, we know that there are low income families zoned for BCC. Fyi, it's weird for you to constantly use them as some sort of "gotcha".

It’s also weird that while decrying racism you cling to a school choice model that furthers segregation.

I don't know who you are talking to but I am supportive of ending the DCC in a thoughtful way, because I agree with you that it worsens segregation. The proposed regional program model expands school choice across the county and includes the wealthiest schools which will supercharge this process.