is RKFJr's "Tylenol(TM) causes autism" just a shakedown for extortion money from the company?

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Anonymous wrote:So, in a few years, insurance companies will deny all autism coverage by saying they shouldn’t have to pay for treatments because mom intentionally gave her kid autism by taking Tylenol. Mothers of autistic kids will be pariahs.

What will they do with me? I have fraternal twins. One has autism and the other is neurotypical. Did all of the Tylenol only go to one baby?

I’m also an autism parent. I hope your family is doing well and that you all are hanging in there. I say this with respect and compassion, but it’s odd to me that your experience leads you to parody people positing an environmental component. Plenty of people will say that autism “is genetic,” insinuating (or even outright saying) that whether a child has autism follows ineluctably from that child’s genes, when, in fact, the experience of twins (including monozygotic twins) shows that it surely is much more complicated than that.

You’re making my point. We haven’t pinpointed the exact cause(s) of autism. It’s so much more complicated than whether mom took Tylenol during pregnancy. They have no peer reviewed research that backs up their premise. This press conference was a bunch of misleading malarkey.

There are women who are pregnant right now, who took Tylenol yesterday or last week or last month and these nincompoops are frightening those women unnecessarily. What the Trump administration is doing is so wrong.

You don’t need to pinpoint causes to discuss them. There are surely multiple causes. They should all be identified. I’m sure this is frightening to some parents, but if it is scientifically valid, it should come out.

The way to do that is through the long conversation of research and publication, not by a financially-invested politician declaring "truths" by fiat which have no real support in the actual research. And not by declaration of a POTUS who knows so little about what he's discussing that he can't even get the basic words right.

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How do they explain the huge imbalance between boys and girls when it comes to autism? Does Tylenol just hit the y chromosome harder?

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Anonymous wrote:How do they explain the huge imbalance between boys and girls when it comes to autism? Does Tylenol just hit the y chromosome harder?

It's certainly not because of the diagnostic criteria, because Our Dear Leader doesn't believe that plays a role.

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Trump says to space out vaccines, get one and then go back in another year for the next one, and another year after that and so on. Then he says there are 80 vaccines. Are we supposed to space them out so a new baby isn’t fully vaccinated until they’re Trump’s age?

The 80 reference comes from some doc who counts each dose in a combined vaccine separately. And we already do space out vaccine doses for appropriate immunological response based on science

They are also counting yearly, recommend flu and covid shots—so 36 right there.

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The entire first year of current recommended vaccines has a lower antigen load than one DTaP vaccine from the 1980s. They are that much mor purified than they were 40-50 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:So, in a few years, insurance companies will deny all autism coverage by saying they shouldn’t have to pay for treatments because mom intentionally gave her kid autism by taking Tylenol. Mothers of autistic kids will be pariahs.

What will they do with me? I have fraternal twins. One has autism and the other is neurotypical. Did all of the Tylenol only go to one baby?

I’m also an autism parent. I hope your family is doing well and that you all are hanging in there. I say this with respect and compassion, but it’s odd to me that your experience leads you to parody people positing an environmental component. Plenty of people will say that autism “is genetic,” insinuating (or even outright saying) that whether a child has autism follows ineluctably from that child’s genes, when, in fact, the experience of twins (including monozygotic twins) shows that it surely is much more complicated than that.

You’re making my point. We haven’t pinpointed the exact cause(s) of autism. It’s so much more complicated than whether mom took Tylenol during pregnancy. They have no peer reviewed research that backs up their premise. This press conference was a bunch of misleading malarkey.

There are women who are pregnant right now, who took Tylenol yesterday or last week or last month and these nincompoops are frightening those women unnecessarily. What the Trump administration is doing is so wrong.

You don’t need to pinpoint causes to discuss them. There are surely multiple causes. They should all be identified. I’m sure this is frightening to some parents, but if it is scientifically valid, it should come out.

The way to do that is through the long conversation of research and publication, not by a financially-invested politician declaring "truths" by fiat which have no real support in the actual research. And not by declaration of a POTUS who knows so little about what he's discussing that he can't even get the basic words right.

Like how about a study of 2.5 million children over a 24 year period?!!!! The Swedish study that debunks what all was said today.


“Swedish researchers analysed data from nearly 2.5 million children born over a 24-year period to compare how siblings fared when their mothers used paracetamol (what Tylenol called in rest of world-only US and Japan say acetaminophen).

They found that paracetamol use during pregnancy was not linked to children’s risk of autism, intellectual disabilities, or attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

“This suggests that other factors, such as genetic or underlying maternal health conditions, may better explain the findings,” said Dr Hannah Kirk, a senior lecturer in the Turner Institute for Brain and Mental Health at Monash University in Australia.”

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Anonymous wrote:So, in a few years, insurance companies will deny all autism coverage by saying they shouldn’t have to pay for treatments because mom intentionally gave her kid autism by taking Tylenol. Mothers of autistic kids will be pariahs.

What will they do with me? I have fraternal twins. One has autism and the other is neurotypical. Did all of the Tylenol only go to one baby?

I’m also an autism parent. I hope your family is doing well and that you all are hanging in there. I say this with respect and compassion, but it’s odd to me that your experience leads you to parody people positing an environmental component. Plenty of people will say that autism “is genetic,” insinuating (or even outright saying) that whether a child has autism follows ineluctably from that child’s genes, when, in fact, the experience of twins (including monozygotic twins) shows that it surely is much more complicated than that.

You’re making my point. We haven’t pinpointed the exact cause(s) of autism. It’s so much more complicated than whether mom took Tylenol during pregnancy. They have no peer reviewed research that backs up their premise. This press conference was a bunch of misleading malarkey.

There are women who are pregnant right now, who took Tylenol yesterday or last week or last month and these nincompoops are frightening those women unnecessarily. What the Trump administration is doing is so wrong.

You don’t need to pinpoint causes to discuss them. There are surely multiple causes. They should all be identified. I’m sure this is frightening to some parents, but if it is scientifically valid, it should come out.

To call something a “cause” of autism, you have to have established that scientifically. Otherwise, you’re not talking about causes; you’re talking about potential causes. No link has been established between acetaminophen during pregnancy and children born of that pregnancy having autism. We can’t call Tylenol use a cause.

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The same guy who was addicted to heroin for 14 years – who works for a guy who has an *ongoing*, decades-long, severe cocaine and Adderall addiction – are both trying to tell you that Acetaminophen is bad for you.

All while they sell you their herb.

Snake oil sales

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Autism was differentiated from schizophrenia back in 1911.
Tylenol was created in 1955.
Anyone trying to tell you that Tylenol causes autism is entirely full of crap.

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First five years of life:

DTaP x (3 components) x 5 doses = 15
HBV x 3 doses = 3
IPV x 4 doses = 4
HiB x 3 or 4 doses = 3 or 4
PCV x 3 doses = 3
Rotavirus x 2 or 3 doses, depending on brand = 2 or 3
MMR x (3 components) x 2 doses = 6
Varicella x 2 doses = 2
Hep A x 2 doses =2
Flu vaccine x (2 doses first year, then yearly) = 6
COVID vaccine x (1-2 doses first year, then maybe yearly?) = about 5 or 6

Nirsevimab/Beyfortus isn't a vaccine. It's passive immunity through immunoglobulin.

I'm seeing 56, if you break it down into component parts -- some of which are only available in the US as combined vaccines, by the way. What am I missing?

Or is he consider the PCV-13 and PCV-20 as 13 or 20 different vaccines? That's not how they work. That's like saying a flu vaccine that still is effective for last year's strain as well as this year's strain is somehow 2 separate vaccines. Ludicrous.

https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP-Immunization-Schedule.pdf

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Blah, blah, blah.

I cringe when I see these messaging type posts. The post I want to see is the one saying, "I made a grave error in confirming RFK Jr. to his cabinet post. I intend to remedy that error by bringing impeachment proceedings against him."

The rest is just blather.

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Anonymous wrote:How do they explain the huge imbalance between boys and girls when it comes to autism? Does Tylenol just hit the y chromosome harder?

Girls are often not diagnosed. Studies were only done on boys, so it’s taken a lot of time for doctors, patients, and parents to piece together even half the information on how girls display traits.

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Anonymous wrote:How do they explain the huge imbalance between boys and girls when it comes to autism? Does Tylenol just hit the y chromosome harder?

Girls are often not diagnosed. Studies were only done on boys, so it’s taken a lot of time for doctors, patients, and parents to piece together even half the information on how girls display traits.

No, no, no. Variations or changes in diagnostic criteria are not a reason more children might be diagnosed. Trump and RFK Jr said so.

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It is 25th Amendment time. 🙏🏻

Downright unhinged and dangerous.