Which among WASP would you choose to ED and why?

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Anonymous wrote:it’s amherst and williams

then the rest of nescac is indistinguishable- save the dregs ct college and trinity

pomona fits in that middle bucket - more a peer to Bowdoin than A or W

These posts are absurd.

Some Bowdoin parents or alumni have found this thread. Bowdoin isn’t AWS. It’s a good NESCAC, but it’s second-tier with Wesleyan and Middlebury.

Some WASPers are getting uncomfortable. Top 10 or so SLACs are indistinguishable and all of them are better than anything else for undergraduate education. They can hope and pray until eternity wishing that people think of them in the same light as HYPSM. But, that would actually be a step down.

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Anonymous wrote:I loved Amherst when I visited a million years ago, so I'd ED there. Although I didn't see Swarthmore and I think I might have loved it too.

But if I had a kid who had so little opinion on geography etc . . . that they were asking this, I'd have them ED to a SLAC that was also excellent and a little easier to get into. Grinnell or Middlebury or something. (I don't have a kid who wants SLAC so I am not that knowledgeable). Why pick a WASP?

Absolutely. Go down a rung and ED might actually help. (Bowdoin is not down a rung.)

Bowdoin’s stats are nearly identical to Middlebury’s. Biggest difference is that Middlebury is much larger.

Latest admissions cycle:
Bowdoin acceptance rate: 6.8%
Middlebury acceptance rate: 13.99%

Bowdoin ED acceptance rate:14.8%
Middlebury ED acceptance rate: 30.5%

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Thanks for presenting your empty credentials but go on the Princeton grad student page and see how difficult it is to find a person with a BA from WASP

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Here are outcomes of recent Swarthmore Alumni. You'll find them at graduate school at MIT, Stanford, Yale, Princeton amongst others.

https://digital.swarthmore.edu/outcomes/

not a single grad at Princeton for a PhD in math, just an operations research PhD at MIT. Lord you people don’t even read your own sources.

Ph.D feeders for math, per capita:
1)CIT
2) Harvey Mudd
3) MIT
4) Pomona
5) Swarthmore
6) Princeton
7) Reed
8) Chicago
9) Carleton
10) St. Olaf

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs#math

Majority are SLACs. Now go away.

The type of grad schools Harvey Mudd and Caltech students are getting into is not the same as Pomona or Reed.

Do you have something to back that up except your poorly thought out little stew of bias and ignorance?

Omg stop being any and look at their major outcome reports if you’re so worried

Please enlighten us. Otherwise you are just spouting unsupported nonsense.

You can find institutional research reports. You’re not a child and know how to find sources.

Please do, it's your assertion that requires detail. The govt data which you choose to interpret in a manner not consistent with reality indicates that your assertion is without merit. So it's time to put up or shut up.

So you have no intention at looking at any source but shouting? Great.

Actually you were the one who started with the assertion that SLAC Math majors don't place as well as students from Berkeley, Princeton, and MIT without anything at all to back that up.....and still crickets from your sorry little ass.

But, let's use Berkeley since you asked.......Current Math Phd students with undergrad degrees from Amherst, Wellesley, and Williams. So why don't you just STFU and crawl back into your little hole.

I said Princeton. Once again, another person who is here with an agenda and can’t stay on topic. Show that at Princeton for a PhD in math a grad student is more likely to be from an LAC than a top research university. Seriously try making that stupid argument.

Link the Berkeley grad students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it’s amherst and williams

then the rest of nescac is indistinguishable- save the dregs ct college and trinity

pomona fits in that middle bucket - more a peer to Bowdoin than A or W

These posts are absurd.

Some Bowdoin parents or alumni have found this thread. Bowdoin isn’t AWS. It’s a good NESCAC, but it’s second-tier with Wesleyan and Middlebury.

Bowdoin is pretty similar to WASP.

[Anonymous]

There’s not a single Princeton math assistant professor who is a liberal arts college grad. They aren’t bad schools but Williams or Pomona is no where near a Princeton

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s not a single Princeton math assistant professor who is a liberal arts college grad. They aren’t bad schools but Williams or Pomona is no where near a Princeton

For someone who is so concerned about math, you have a shockingly poor understanding of sample size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it’s amherst and williams

then the rest of nescac is indistinguishable- save the dregs ct college and trinity

pomona fits in that middle bucket - more a peer to Bowdoin than A or W

These posts are absurd.

Some Bowdoin parents or alumni have found this thread. Bowdoin isn’t AWS. It’s a good NESCAC, but it’s second-tier with Wesleyan and Middlebury.

Bowdoin has good history, nice location, and a huge endowment for its size.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I loved Amherst when I visited a million years ago, so I'd ED there. Although I didn't see Swarthmore and I think I might have loved it too.

But if I had a kid who had so little opinion on geography etc . . . that they were asking this, I'd have them ED to a SLAC that was also excellent and a little easier to get into. Grinnell or Middlebury or something. (I don't have a kid who wants SLAC so I am not that knowledgeable). Why pick a WASP?

Absolutely. Go down a rung and ED might actually help. (Bowdoin is not down a rung.)

Bowdoin’s stats are nearly identical to Middlebury’s. Biggest difference is that Middlebury is much larger.

Latest admissions cycle:
Bowdoin acceptance rate: 6.8%
Middlebury acceptance rate: 13.99%

Bowdoin ED acceptance rate:14.8%
Middlebury ED acceptance rate: 30.5%

Middlebury is more than 50% larger than Bowdoin. If Middlebury had 950 fewer seats to fill, I'm sure they could be as rejective as Bowdoin. In terms of stats, their incoming classes are remarkably similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it’s amherst and williams

then the rest of nescac is indistinguishable- save the dregs ct college and trinity

pomona fits in that middle bucket - more a peer to Bowdoin than A or W

These posts are absurd.

Some Bowdoin parents or alumni have found this thread. Bowdoin isn’t AWS. It’s a good NESCAC, but it’s second-tier with Wesleyan and Middlebury.

Bowdoin is pretty similar to WASP.

I agree it’s pretty similar and a fantastic school - but I do agree it’s closer to Wes and Middlebury than Amherst and Williams. I’m sure the differences in quality of the undergraduate experience are negligible, Bit Amherst and Williams have much higher prestige factor, which translates into both biases and opportunities over a lifetime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I loved Amherst when I visited a million years ago, so I'd ED there. Although I didn't see Swarthmore and I think I might have loved it too.

But if I had a kid who had so little opinion on geography etc . . . that they were asking this, I'd have them ED to a SLAC that was also excellent and a little easier to get into. Grinnell or Middlebury or something. (I don't have a kid who wants SLAC so I am not that knowledgeable). Why pick a WASP?

Absolutely. Go down a rung and ED might actually help. (Bowdoin is not down a rung.)

Bowdoin’s stats are nearly identical to Middlebury’s. Biggest difference is that Middlebury is much larger.

Latest admissions cycle:
Bowdoin acceptance rate: 6.8%
Middlebury acceptance rate: 13.99%

Bowdoin ED acceptance rate:14.8%
Middlebury ED acceptance rate: 30.5%

The difference is far greater than this, given that Middlebury takes 70% of the class ED. Doing that unnaturally reduces the overall acceptance rate. If Midd took, say, 50% of class ED, their overall acceptance rate would be much higher.

WASPB
Then a noticeable drop off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I loved Amherst when I visited a million years ago, so I'd ED there. Although I didn't see Swarthmore and I think I might have loved it too.

But if I had a kid who had so little opinion on geography etc . . . that they were asking this, I'd have them ED to a SLAC that was also excellent and a little easier to get into. Grinnell or Middlebury or something. (I don't have a kid who wants SLAC so I am not that knowledgeable). Why pick a WASP?

Absolutely. Go down a rung and ED might actually help. (Bowdoin is not down a rung.)

Bowdoin’s stats are nearly identical to Middlebury’s. Biggest difference is that Middlebury is much larger.

Latest admissions cycle:
Bowdoin acceptance rate: 6.8%
Middlebury acceptance rate: 13.99%

Bowdoin ED acceptance rate:14.8%
Middlebury ED acceptance rate: 30.5%

Middlebury is more than 50% larger than Bowdoin. If Middlebury had 950 fewer seats to fill, I'm sure they could be as rejective as Bowdoin. In terms of stats, their incoming classes are remarkably similar.

What an insipid remark. If Midd were an entirely different school, it would have the acceptance rate of an entirely different school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Williams Amherst Swarthmore, but trying to figure out P. Pomona, really? One of these things is not like the others.

You seem out of touch. One of these is being picked over the others, consistently. Go talk to young people and see which they prefer. Hint: it is not a tired old northeast SLAC but the one that is “different.”

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Anonymous wrote:There’s not a single Princeton math assistant professor who is a liberal arts college grad. They aren’t bad schools but Williams or Pomona is no where near a Princeton

For someone who is so concerned about math, you have a shockingly poor understanding of sample size.

Not to mention that certain BA grads making a ton in finance are amused by this poster’s demand to attend school for another 6 years to get a Ph.D.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it’s amherst and williams

then the rest of nescac is indistinguishable- save the dregs ct college and trinity

pomona fits in that middle bucket - more a peer to Bowdoin than A or W

These posts are absurd.

Some Bowdoin parents or alumni have found this thread. Bowdoin isn’t AWS. It’s a good NESCAC, but it’s second-tier with Wesleyan and Middlebury.

Bowdoin is pretty similar to WASP.

I agree it’s pretty similar and a fantastic school - but I do agree it’s closer to Wes and Middlebury than Amherst and Williams. I’m sure the differences in quality of the undergraduate experience are negligible, Bit Amherst and Williams have much higher prestige factor, which translates into both biases and opportunities over a lifetime.

Bowdoin and Midd both have far superior housing (brand new) and food (excellent), which ain't nothing when you're out in the wilderness. Amherst has Amherst, which is more of a town. Williams has prestige and tutorials (but truly terrible food). I think teaching is probably excellent across the board.

[Anonymous]

Just curious as I have a kid looking at Swarthmore. Is it not considered similar to Williams/Amherst in these conversations (most of which center on WAP and Bowdoin) bc of perceived intensity or something else?