Is responsibility for your own bag too much to ask?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

+1 there have been a few times when the flight was delayed, so the FA asked those with connections to identify themselves, and asked the rest of us to let those people off first. I'm ok with doing that to be helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

+1 there have been a few times when the flight was delayed, so the FA asked those with connections to identify themselves, and asked the rest of us to let those people off first. I'm ok with doing that to be helpful.

Nobody does that anymore. Everyone stands up and blocks the aisle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

I’ve never seen someone left to struggle in the aisle with a bag, which would block everyone behind them, for so long that all the overhead space was taken up (again, how, if the line is held up) and then have to gate check it. Which would of course require another delay while they removed batteries, Rx, and whatever else can’t be checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

I’ve never seen someone left to struggle in the aisle with a bag, which would block everyone behind them, for so long that all the overhead space was taken up (again, how, if the line is held up) and then have to gate check it. Which would of course require another delay while they removed batteries, Rx, and whatever else can’t be checked.

Then they are lucky but they have no right to demand passengers or flight attendants do this for them. It’s a risk they assume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

I’ve never seen someone left to struggle in the aisle with a bag, which would block everyone behind them, for so long that all the overhead space was taken up (again, how, if the line is held up) and then have to gate check it. Which would of course require another delay while they removed batteries, Rx, and whatever else can’t be checked.

Then they are lucky but they have no right to demand passengers or flight attendants do this for them. It’s a risk they assume.

Sure. And all of the inconvenienced passengers who don’t help assume the risk of a delayed flight. Which is probably why, outside DCUM, this is not a real issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

I’ve never seen someone left to struggle in the aisle with a bag, which would block everyone behind them, for so long that all the overhead space was taken up (again, how, if the line is held up) and then have to gate check it. Which would of course require another delay while they removed batteries, Rx, and whatever else can’t be checked.

Then they are lucky but they have no right to demand passengers or flight attendants do this for them. It’s a risk they assume.

Sure. And all of the inconvenienced passengers who don’t help assume the risk of a delayed flight. Which is probably why, outside DCUM, this is not a real issue.

But a flight won’t be delayed the bag will be checked and if the customer freaks, they get bounced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

I’ve never seen someone left to struggle in the aisle with a bag, which would block everyone behind them, for so long that all the overhead space was taken up (again, how, if the line is held up) and then have to gate check it. Which would of course require another delay while they removed batteries, Rx, and whatever else can’t be checked.

Then they are lucky but they have no right to demand passengers or flight attendants do this for them. It’s a risk they assume.

Sure. And all of the inconvenienced passengers who don’t help assume the risk of a delayed flight. Which is probably why, outside DCUM, this is not a real issue.

But a flight won’t be delayed the bag will be checked and if the customer freaks, they get bounced.

The flight would absolutely be delayed in the scenario you’re describing of a person standing in the aisle asking for help because no one could get past them.

I get that you’re salivating over the scenario of a short or disabled person having their property taken away while they beg for help in the aisle but it literally doesn’t (and won’t) happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Seems like they should be the first people to offer to assist anyone who seems to be struggling, then.

Should they have to announce to everyone that they are available and risk injury? Interesting that everyone but the person with the bag they can't manage needs to be inconvenienced.

Fly private if you don’t wish to be inconvenienced by the needs of other passengers. Your tight connection isn’t more important than an elderly persons CPAP machine or an infants formula.

.

Same to you. Sounds like you need a personal attendant. Commercial is not for everyone.

I have never struggled to get my items stowed, either on my own or with assistance. Nor do I begrudge other passengers the time to store their items, which they’re entitled to do. You’re the one struggling to make your connections, so if you can’t afford private perhaps you need to plan better so this doesn’t cause you so much anxiety.

That’s nice but has nothing to do with airline policy. If you can’t find room for your bags they will gate check them for you.

This thread is about lifting the bags, which airline policy does not require.

But if nobody will help you and all the space is gone they will gate check it. That’s a risk you take knowingly bringing a bag on you can’t manage.

Thats never happened to me, and I’ve never seen it happen, but yes it’s a risk.

If your real complaint is about time and inconvenience, you would hope that someone would assist a struggling passenger since removing and gate checking a bag takes significantly more time.

You’ve never seen a bag gate checked? It happens all the tme. Flights still leave on time.

I’ve never seen someone left to struggle in the aisle with a bag, which would block everyone behind them, for so long that all the overhead space was taken up (again, how, if the line is held up) and then have to gate check it. Which would of course require another delay while they removed batteries, Rx, and whatever else can’t be checked.

Then they are lucky but they have no right to demand passengers or flight attendants do this for them. It’s a risk they assume.

Sure. And all of the inconvenienced passengers who don’t help assume the risk of a delayed flight. Which is probably why, outside DCUM, this is not a real issue.

But a flight won’t be delayed the bag will be checked and if the customer freaks, they get bounced.

The flight would absolutely be delayed in the scenario you’re describing of a person standing in the aisle asking for help because no one could get past them.

I get that you’re salivating over the scenario of a short or disabled person having their property taken away while they beg for help in the aisle but it literally doesn’t (and won’t) happen.

We have different flying experiences then if you think demanding passengers are allowed to delay flights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

Which is why OP wrote “barring disability.” Perhaps you have a comprehension disorder?

How would they know? Not all disabilities and health issues are visible. How would you know I carry two portable nebulizer, extra parts, medications and more? Expraclothing as things get bad….

If it doesn't apply to you, leave it. Honestly, you're upset about something that has nothing to do with you. Why are you centering yourself in this discussion? Are you always such a narcissist?

Aren’t you the person who thinks kids should go without changes of clothes, the elderly should go without CPAP machines, and everyone too short to reach overheads should pay $50 and wait 45 minutes for checked bags…just so you can board 10 minutes faster?

Just want to see where the accusations of narcissim are coming from.

I think everyone wants boarding to go faster. It’s just that the people who are the holdup don’t recognize that they’re the problem. Now you know. You’re welcome.

I am willing to wait a few moments longer to get on a plane, which will sit on the tarmac regardless, in order for someone else to be able to have their medical equipment, clothes, or other items. I’m surprised to find that makes me so uniquely good of a person.

What about people who have tight connections and are traveling for an emergency? Should they have to wait and potentially miss a flight because you simply must bring 3 pairs of clothes that you can't lift?

Oh you’re just trolling now. Boarding times account for the normal time it takes to get a plane loaded up. If you have a connection that close either. If you get the plane loaded up faster I don’t think that usually correlates to leaving before your scheduled departure time.

1) You booked it too close and should have known the risks

2) There was another delay that has caused the connection to be tighter than usual

If 2 then blame the airline/travel gods for bad luck don’t hate on normal people just trying to get to their destination as well

[Anonymous]

I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard FAs say- I don't lift bags.

It always catches me by surprise when it is a elderly woman or really short woman or even an unaccompanied 12 year old who can't lift their bag up. Also, I have a terrible back but I am still helping other people when the FAs refuse to help

I am one of the people calling the overreactors here jerks but I don't think FAs (or anyone) should be REQUIRED to help and I believe FAs are sometimes not allowed to because it exposes the airline to workers comp risks