Noticable reduction in homeless and tents in DC, what about libaries and metro?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

Dude the president is a pedophile and no one cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

What makes you think “placing” mentally ill people and addicts solves anything?

People with issues need help: treatment, services, support…and perhaps most importantly, human connection.

Imagine if you were suffering with severe mental health issues or disabilities. How would you want to be treated? What would you need to survive? How do you think you would fare if dumped in a random place without human connection?

Expecting these people who are obviously struggling to magically figure it out on their own is pretty crazy, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

What makes you think “placing” mentally ill people and addicts solves anything?

People with issues need help: treatment, services, support…and perhaps most importantly, human connection.

Imagine if you were suffering with severe mental health issues or disabilities. How would you want to be treated? What would you need to survive? How do you think you would fare if dumped in a random place without human connection?

Expecting these people who are obviously struggling to magically figure it out on their own is pretty crazy, right?

the mentally ill who accept treatment are one thing, those who refuse it are another.

Addicts deserve no sympathy - they started down that path voluntarily and their sobriety is their own responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

What makes you think “placing” mentally ill people and addicts solves anything?

People with issues need help: treatment, services, support…and perhaps most importantly, human connection.

Imagine if you were suffering with severe mental health issues or disabilities. How would you want to be treated? What would you need to survive? How do you think you would fare if dumped in a random place without human connection?

Expecting these people who are obviously struggling to magically figure it out on their own is pretty crazy, right?

the mentally ill who accept treatment are one thing, those who refuse it are another.

Addicts deserve no sympathy - they started down that path voluntarily and their sobriety is their own responsibility.

Sure dude.

[Anonymous]

Lock em up shop then to cencot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

MAGA doesn't actually give a shit about solving the issues behind homelessness. They just want them out of their sight. Such well thought out policy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

MAGA doesn't actually give a shit about solving the issues behind homelessness. They just want them out of their sight. Such well thought out policy!

Pleasr share the name of a "blue" city that is solving homelessness.

[Anonymous]

Can we address the first phase oh the OP?

Noticeable reduction in homelessness? OP, are you suggesting that all of those people now have homes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

MAGA doesn't actually give a shit about solving the issues behind homelessness. They just want them out of their sight. Such well thought out policy!

Exactly. Where are they taking these citizens who have done no wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

MAGA doesn't actually give a shit about solving the issues behind homelessness. They just want them out of their sight. Such well thought out policy!

Pleasr share the name of a "blue" city that is solving homelessness.

Please name a Republican who has voted to fund the programs the experts have designed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

MAGA doesn't actually give a shit about solving the issues behind homelessness. They just want them out of their sight. Such well thought out policy!

Pleasr share the name of a "blue" city that is solving homelessness.

Please name a Republican who has voted to fund the programs the experts have designed.

You ignored the question about blue cities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in NW DC, the homeless folks haven't gone anywhere, after clearing the nearby encampments there is a distinct uptick in the number of people I see now laying out on the medians, park benches, bus stops and in front of the libraries. It's not like any meaningful change was made, and once this all blows over I guarantee you the encampments will return.

The encampments were actually an improvement over homeless in the parks and sleeping on the street. Now they are gone...

I agree. Giving people tents was the most humane action we’ve seen in a long time. Now they are on bus stop benches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I havent seen any homeless, including in coffee shops. Its great seeing what this city was like not that long ago. And no murders in more than a week! I know a lot of leftists hate not hearing about DC residents get killed every day, but they will get over it.

Out of sight out of mind, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

MAGA doesn't actually give a shit about solving the issues behind homelessness. They just want them out of their sight. Such well thought out policy!

Pleasr share the name of a "blue" city that is solving homelessness.

Please name a Republican who has voted to fund the programs the experts have designed.

You ignored the question about blue cities.

I’m a DP, but I assume that was rhetorical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

What makes you think “placing” mentally ill people and addicts solves anything?

People with issues need help: treatment, services, support…and perhaps most importantly, human connection.

Imagine if you were suffering with severe mental health issues or disabilities. How would you want to be treated? What would you need to survive? How do you think you would fare if dumped in a random place without human connection?

Expecting these people who are obviously struggling to magically figure it out on their own is pretty crazy, right?

the mentally ill who accept treatment are one thing, those who refuse it are another.

Addicts deserve no sympathy - they started down that path voluntarily and their sobriety is their own responsibility.

Sure dude.

Glad you agree that people should be responsible for their own choices and behaviors. I certainly see no reason why I should fund treatment or shelter for people who'd rather get high than do what they need to in order to support themselves like productive citizens instead of choosing to be parasites on the rest of society.