Noticable reduction in homeless and tents in DC, what about libaries and metro?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for making sure our public spaces are clean and safe, and not places where people sleep or defacate or sit and do drugs in the open or engage in prostitution.

But … I’m unclear on how the GOP thinks that telling people they are not allowed to be homeless will work. Is there plan to just arrest their way out of this so they all end up in jail?

Why hasn't DC built needed facilities and buildings for the unhoused?

The money goes to NGOs that try to run shelters. However, local neighbors fight them. So that money pays salaries to spreadsheet warriors and lawyers.

These NGOs obviously don't have performance reviews or results dependent funding like private business. No accountability to the taxpayer here, just blaming the taxpayer for not wanting to put up with degeneracy trying to enjoy their own homes and neighborhoods they work most of their life to pay for. Or they wouldn't be doing the same stuff every time that they well know doesn't work. I am sure they pay themselves very well too and hire they own connections as "contractors".

You completely made that up.

[Anonymous]

They have taken their tents but the people are now just moving about. Trump has started check points throughout the city where you most show your identity. Many people are just disappearing.

Word is they are being placed in concentration camps set up by private contractors. There is a plan to ship many off to Greenland as a penal colony. This will allow the US to occupy Greenland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for making sure our public spaces are clean and safe, and not places where people sleep or defacate or sit and do drugs in the open or engage in prostitution.

But … I’m unclear on how the GOP thinks that telling people they are not allowed to be homeless will work. Is there plan to just arrest their way out of this so they all end up in jail?

Why hasn't DC built needed facilities and buildings for the unhoused?

The money goes to NGOs that try to run shelters. However, local neighbors fight them. So that money pays salaries to spreadsheet warriors and lawyers.

These NGOs obviously don't have performance reviews or results dependent funding like private business. No accountability to the taxpayer here, just blaming the taxpayer for not wanting to put up with degeneracy trying to enjoy their own homes and neighborhoods they work most of their life to pay for. Or they wouldn't be doing the same stuff every time that they well know doesn't work. I am sure they pay themselves very well too and hire they own connections as "contractors".

You completely made that up.

which part, where billions of taxpayer dollars going towards homelessness crisis solutions seem to disappear without any impact anyone can see?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They have taken their tents but the people are now just moving about. Trump has started check points throughout the city where you most show your identity. Many people are just disappearing.

Word is they are being placed in concentration camps set up by private contractors. There is a plan to ship many off to Greenland as a penal colony. This will allow the US to occupy Greenland.

What's the name of that fiction novel you are writing? It is sci fi by any chance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for making sure our public spaces are clean and safe, and not places where people sleep or defacate or sit and do drugs in the open or engage in prostitution.

But … I’m unclear on how the GOP thinks that telling people they are not allowed to be homeless will work. Is there plan to just arrest their way out of this so they all end up in jail?

Why hasn't DC built needed facilities and buildings for the unhoused?

The money goes to NGOs that try to run shelters. However, local neighbors fight them. So that money pays salaries to spreadsheet warriors and lawyers.

These NGOs obviously don't have performance reviews or results dependent funding like private business. No accountability to the taxpayer here, just blaming the taxpayer for not wanting to put up with degeneracy trying to enjoy their own homes and neighborhoods they work most of their life to pay for. Or they wouldn't be doing the same stuff every time that they well know doesn't work. I am sure they pay themselves very well too and hire they own connections as "contractors".

You completely made that up.

which part, where billions of taxpayer dollars going towards homelessness crisis solutions seem to disappear without any impact anyone can see?

It would be better spent moving the homeless into special camps--ideally far far away from most of us. Or homelessness can just be criminalized and the homeless moved into jails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for making sure our public spaces are clean and safe, and not places where people sleep or defacate or sit and do drugs in the open or engage in prostitution.

But … I’m unclear on how the GOP thinks that telling people they are not allowed to be homeless will work. Is there plan to just arrest their way out of this so they all end up in jail?

Why hasn't DC built needed facilities and buildings for the unhoused?

The money goes to NGOs that try to run shelters. However, local neighbors fight them. So that money pays salaries to spreadsheet warriors and lawyers.

These NGOs obviously don't have performance reviews or results dependent funding like private business. No accountability to the taxpayer here, just blaming the taxpayer for not wanting to put up with degeneracy trying to enjoy their own homes and neighborhoods they work most of their life to pay for. Or they wouldn't be doing the same stuff every time that they well know doesn't work. I am sure they pay themselves very well too and hire they own connections as "contractors".

You completely made that up.

which part, where billions of taxpayer dollars going towards homelessness crisis solutions seem to disappear without any impact anyone can see?

It would be better spent moving the homeless into special camps--ideally far far away from most of us. Or homelessness can just be criminalized and the homeless moved into jails.

WTH? The vast majority of homeless re homeless through no fault of their own and mostly due top failed policies to support and protect ALL citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

DP. Why not? It worked for the Victorians. But, seriously, the GOP pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps mentality effectively sees mental illness, unemployment, or debt as moral failings which should not be shouldered by the wider society as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Drove to DC for a work meeting with a customer, and the reduction in homeless people and tents was noticeable.

It was a positive change, as usual. DC looks depressing with all the homeless people and encampments.

Does anyone know if they are still congregating in other areas like the libraries and metros? If they aren't, I may revisit date nights, etc, taking the metro and walking around at night.

You poor snowflake! All those homeless people were so depressing and scary! I am so glad you dont have to see them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

DP. Why not? It worked for the Victorians. But, seriously, the GOP pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps mentality effectively sees mental illness, unemployment, or debt as moral failings which should not be shouldered by the wider society as a whole.

Society is best served when we take care of people, especially the most vulnerable.

ICYMI: you can’t punish the crazy out of the mentally ill. You can’t punish the poverty out of the poor. You can’t punish the frailty out of the elderly, infirm, disabled, etc.

Google “exercise in futility.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

[Anonymous]

It’s sad. People were roping off a tiny park area near my office where people used to gather to eat lunch on nice days. No homeless people which is sad for them, and no people at all allowed which is just as depressing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there no shelters for the homeless in DC?

Would you like to spend the night in a room with 50 mostly addicted, mentally-ill and often violent individuals off their meds?

Exactly.

The homeless don't want to share a confined space with these people either. The streets are generally safer than the shelters.

Maybe don't put those individuals together? Maybe actually do the work evaluating each of these people and their needs like all homeless and mental health outreach services promise to do? And don't create generic one size fits all shelters. What we need instead is institutionalize mentally ill and severely drug addicted, ship all the lifestyle hobos who prefer outdoor living and don't want any rules outside of city limits into the open campground field somewhere with toilets and communal kitchens (campgrounds), and provide tiny private units or even pods for people who want the rehab and to get back on their feet. Make education or part time work doing whatever one can mandatory to get a unit and you will see that people who seek help will get back on their feet faster and feel like human beings who are respected and contribute, or at least take care of themselves and their housing.

+1 excellent proposals

Think this through. Where is the money for your proposal coming from? As if no one ever thought of this and lobbied for those funds before.

Also, what if the "hobo" doesn't want to live at your campground? Are you willing to make it a crime to be mentally ill or unemployable or in serious debt? Are we OK with debtors prison when 90% of the time the debt is due to predatory practices or lack of knowledge?

The reality is communities are spending the money on the wrong things. Think about how much it costs for police, courts, and jails to deal with homeless people. Think about how much it costs ambulances, ERs, and hospitals to cycle homeless people in and out.

Google Million Dollar Murray.

Guys, we already did this exercise, ran the numbers, and determined that housing, treatment, and services were far more cost effective than enlisting law enforcement to manage people suffering with mental health and addiction issues. Why are we pretending we didn’t already determine what solutions work?

We have a scalability problem. We need the right resources along with a compassionate approach to getting people into housing, treatment, and services. But make no mistake: we need the resources at scale.

Taking away tents and survival gear only results in having vulnerable people being more vulnerable…and potentially agitated. It’s shameful.

There is no reason for the USA to have such a high volume of people living on the streets. Imagine if you were suffering from mental illness. Imagine if it were your son suffering with schizophrenia. Where the hell is our compassion?

Be better, America. We are all human beings.

The PSA in upper NW where the city has been placing homeless and addicts in apartment buildings has had the highest crime increase in the city.

Longterm hospitalization and group homes are the answer. Forced, if necessary. Not an option to live on the streets.