DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs

More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks

And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.

You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.

Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?

Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.

Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.

My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro

Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...

The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.

Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.

Really?
I guess your opinion weighs more than facts?

We've played academy teams from top clubs in Europe at the Surf Cup Salou
But maybe me being there I'm mistaken and you're right.

I'm sure they brought their full squad and not their 5th string for your EDP1 team. I'm sorry you blew so much money on that trip.

How miserable and filled with self-hate are you?

Yes, I'm sure when Porto, Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Lyon, Bilbao etc are planning for a tournament, they see a EDP1 team from USA and create their approach.

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Anonymous wrote:So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.

If they announced they brought in the entire Barcelona and Manchester City academy staff you would have something negative to comment 😂

That's not answering the question. How did this function before if they're saying they now have access to all these things?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.

If they announced they brought in the entire Barcelona and Manchester City academy staff you would have something negative to comment 😂

That's not answering the question. How did this function before if they're saying they now have access to all these things?

And when did they start if they're just announcing it now?

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs

More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks

And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.

You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.

Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?

Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.

Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.

My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro

Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...

The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.

Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.

Really?
I guess your opinion weighs more than facts?

We've played academy teams from top clubs in Europe at the Surf Cup Salou
But maybe me being there I'm mistaken and you're right.

I'm sure they brought their full squad and not their 5th string for your EDP1 team. I'm sorry you blew so much money on that trip.

How miserable and filled with self-hate are you?

Yes, I'm sure when Porto, Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Lyon, Bilbao etc are planning for a tournament, they see a EDP1 team from USA and create their approach.

Maybe I'll change my mind if you list a couple more clubs. And will also agree with you that EDP kids experience in Europe is the same as Academy kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.

If they announced they brought in the entire Barcelona and Manchester City academy staff you would have something negative to comment 😂

That's not answering the question. How did this function before if they're saying they now have access to all these things?

List all the things that they shouldn't have been able to function without before the announcement.

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs

More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks

And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.

You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.

Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?

Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.

Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.

My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro

Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...

The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.

Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.

Really?
I guess your opinion weighs more than facts?

We've played academy teams from top clubs in Europe at the Surf Cup Salou
But maybe me being there I'm mistaken and you're right.

I'm sure they brought their full squad and not their 5th string for your EDP1 team. I'm sorry you blew so much money on that trip.

How miserable and filled with self-hate are you?

Yes, I'm sure when Porto, Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Lyon, Bilbao etc are planning for a tournament, they see a EDP1 team from USA and create their approach.

Maybe I'll change my mind if you list a couple more clubs. And will also agree with you that EDP kids experience in Europe is the same as Academy kids.

I'm sure no one cares about your state of mind

Who knew MLS academy kids were playing against Division 1 men's senior teams when they visit Europe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.

If they announced they brought in the entire Barcelona and Manchester City academy staff you would have something negative to comment 😂

That's not answering the question. How did this function before if they're saying they now have access to all these things?

And when did they start if they're just announcing it now?

When Where Who How What Why

The public needs to know or there'll be unrest

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs

More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks

And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.

You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.

Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?

Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.

Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.

My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro

Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...

The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.

Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.

Really?
I guess your opinion weighs more than facts?

We've played academy teams from top clubs in Europe at the Surf Cup Salou
But maybe me being there I'm mistaken and you're right.

I'm sure they brought their full squad and not their 5th string for your EDP1 team. I'm sorry you blew so much money on that trip.

How miserable and filled with self-hate are you?

Yes, I'm sure when Porto, Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Lyon, Bilbao etc are planning for a tournament, they see a EDP1 team from USA and create their approach.

Maybe I'll change my mind if you list a couple more clubs. And will also agree with you that EDP kids experience in Europe is the same as Academy kids.

I'm sure no one cares about your state of mind

Who knew MLS academy kids were playing against Division 1 men's senior teams when they visit Europe

Apparently two people cared enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.

If they announced they brought in the entire Barcelona and Manchester City academy staff you would have something negative to comment 😂

That's not answering the question. How did this function before if they're saying they now have access to all these things?

And when did they start if they're just announcing it now?

When Where Who How What Why

The public needs to know or there'll be unrest

Are we not posting in the DCUA thread or am I mistaken?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.

You have the DC United Academy website up and refreshing every 5 minutes?
What kinda obsessive stalker program are you on?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.

You have the DC United Academy website up and refreshing every 5 minutes?
What kinda obsessive stalker program are you on?

Or maybe I follow DCU on FB and they posted about it? Don't feel dumb, we all do it sometimes.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KABAddNAZoPR5V3u/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.

Or they read the dcum post (unlikely) and laughed at all the ignorance being stated by people who obviously didn't know all this has been going on.

This announcement is way delayed to the public.

So when did this program start? And is it only for the U16 boys and not academy wide?

[Anonymous]

Not
Terrible director
No pathway

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.

Or they read the dcum post (unlikely) and laughed at all the ignorance being stated by people who obviously didn't know all this has been going on.

This announcement is way delayed to the public.

So when did this program start? And is it only for the U16 boys and not academy wide?

Not academy wide. Started this year. Very vague on details, focus, goals, how they will be accountable for the development. But at least they are trying to be better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.

Or they read the dcum post (unlikely) and laughed at all the ignorance being stated by people who obviously didn't know all this has been going on.

This announcement is way delayed to the public.

So when did this program start? And is it only for the U16 boys and not academy wide?

Not academy wide. Started this year. Very vague on details, focus, goals, how they will be accountable for the development. But at least they are trying to be better.

Yea it's a step in the right direction, hopefully it'll be all age groups next year. Still boggles my mind that they are so far behind other academies, especially for being in an area like DC.