DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

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Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)


What is the Red Bulls open door policy?


If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up


They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.


Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh


Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.


This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.


The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.


If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.


Right, if you're not a generational talent, just settle for mediocrity. I wonder if your kid was anywhere near making an academy team, you would think differently?


Mediocrity is more about you, not the club nor job nor school


Pretty sure most of us would prefer to have our kids in the best environment possible. School, soccer, whatever. But that's just me.
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Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)


What is the Red Bulls open door policy?


If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up


They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.


Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh


Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.


This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.


The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.


If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.


Right, if you're not a generational talent, just settle for mediocrity. I wonder if your kid was anywhere near making an academy team, you would think differently?


Mediocrity is more about you, not the club nor job nor school


Pretty sure most of us would prefer to have our kids in the best environment possible. School, soccer, whatever. But that's just me.


Best environment for a kid doesn't have to be the one where people competing with Jones's are dying to go
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Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)


What is the Red Bulls open door policy?


If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up


They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.


Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh


Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.


This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.


The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.


If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.


Right, if you're not a generational talent, just settle for mediocrity. I wonder if your kid was anywhere near making an academy team, you would think differently?


Mediocrity is more about you, not the club nor job nor school


Pretty sure most of us would prefer to have our kids in the best environment possible. School, soccer, whatever. But that's just me.


Best environment for a kid doesn't have to be the one where people competing with Jones's are dying to go


True. Although keeping up with the Jones's is what motivates a lot of the DMV. Even more true in the soccer world Sad. People do what everyone else does. And if you do that in soccer, you will be just like everyone else. Average.
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.


My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.


My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro


Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...
Anonymous
Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.


My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro


Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...


The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.
Anonymous
So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok now this is a step forward. Appalling that it wasn't in place before. DC United posted this 30 minutes ago:

https://www.dcunited.com/news/d-c-united-launches-full-time-academy-program

Troy Lesesne stepped in as head coach, getting things done! They saw this DCUM post and got right on it.


Or they read the dcum post (unlikely) and laughed at all the ignorance being stated by people who obviously didn't know all this has been going on.

This announcement is way delayed to the public.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what was it before? Thought this kind of thing should've been standard for an MLS academy.


If they announced they brought in the entire Barcelona and Manchester City academy staff you would have something negative to comment 😂
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.


My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro


Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...


The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.


Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DBMG_ZAO4GK/?igsh=MTgyYWRkOWt6ZjBkbg==

Anyone know how many homegrown signings DCU has?
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.


My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro


Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...


The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.


Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.


Really?
I guess your opinion weighs more than facts?

We've played academy teams from top clubs in Europe at the Surf Cup Salou
But maybe me being there I'm mistaken and you're right.
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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Pro Academies, DC United is behind the ball. They were the last pay to play program and only changed when MLS Next made them. With that being said they seem like they are trying to change thing. Their past Director didn’t do much to help the program but again things seem to be changing. They are still a ways off from being a top academy. The other problem is from the top, what is the plan with these players. Are they truly trying to develop players to go into their pro team? Who knows, not every pro club has a major focus on youth develop. Why focus on it if you don’t plan on using the players in it. It’s an expensive expense. DC is still a good 10 years out from being considered a top youth academy with other MLS programs


More opinions.

Unless you can definitively produce for example in data and other verifiable facts and measurements how they are 10 years behind other MLS programs.
Thanks


And just like that, the "facts, truths and verifiable evidence" dork checking in.

Own facility. Own field. Residency program. Overseas tournaments. Just a few of what the academy teams that are 10 years ahead have.

Now tell us why DCU is on par? And don't do off tangent asking questions of how those things help develop kids.


You are stating facts about the facilities not being owned by DCU
Not facts that they are 10 years behind.



Stop dancing around the question. How is DCU on par with what RedBulls or Union are doing?


Who said they were?

How many academies are on par and can afford to do what Red Bulls are doing?

Red Bulls are taking teams to Austria and Germany to play against other clubs they own, multiple times a year.

Get real.


Chicago Fire, Philadelphia Union, Charlotte FC, LA Galaxy, to name a few. All went to Europe for friendlies and tournaments.


My son's EDP1 team goes to Europe for tournaments.
I won't be expecting except maybe 1 of them to see D1 or Pro


Ok? What's your point? We're talking MLS academy kids here...


The point is, your team going to Europe for a couple games isn't an automatic magic wand for individual development success catapulting you to the top professional levels.


Thanks for the obvious I guess? Your EDP1 teams aren't playing the same European teams as the academy kids. And it's more for experience and the potential exposure.


Really?
I guess your opinion weighs more than facts?

We've played academy teams from top clubs in Europe at the Surf Cup Salou
But maybe me being there I'm mistaken and you're right.


I'm sure they brought their full squad and not their 5th string for your EDP1 team. I'm sorry you blew so much money on that trip.
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