HoCo dresses- Could they be any shorter

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Anonymous wrote:NP here and I would agree that it is much more important to know that your daughter is a "good kid" now granted mine has a mouth on her that makes me livid but she is an active girl with advanced classes and good grades. The mouth is just part of being a teen.

As far as the dress goes anything she feels comfortable in is ok with me. Work it while you can baby! Before you end up like some of these miserable moms on this board.

This is the problem parent. Imagine thinking a "mouth" is just part of being a teen and "working it" is normal. Sad.

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Or maybe it’s not an all encompassing statement on feminism and they are teen girls that want to look nice/ feel pretty and have fun with their friends and not be called prostitutes/ whores for doing so.

We can debate pretty privilege and the invisibility of older/ overweight women for hours but it won’t change the reality of both of those things.

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much vitriol for a flipping dress. It’s super weird. Don’t let your daughter wear them and be done with it. Judging other kids using the term prostitute is degrading and just wrong.

I know I wore skirts that were shorter and tighter than my would have liked and probably a ton of other things. But she kept her mouth shut and I am doing the same. I have a strong confident kid and I’ll do what I can to empower her to stay that way. Cutting down her clothing choices is not one of them.

It’s 100% 1-2 trolls that keep coming back and shame posting

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really care about tightness or length but the fabric in most of these dresses is so cheap-looking. That makes the look appear cheap more than anything else imo.

Yeah, fast fashion. Not a fan.

And so conformist. Like a tacky uniform.

Are you really criticizing teens for being conformist in their fashion?! Teens have always (as a group) conformed to trends.

so, if they start wearing see through shirts with no bra, you'd be ok with that for your 14, 15, 16 yr old?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 52-year-old mother to two college-aged sons. It is weird to me that so many people are triggered by these dresses. I don't have any issue with them -- they cover up way more than the bikinis that were on display throughout the summer. Have you guys been on college campuses recently and seen what girls are wearing to their classes? It looks really uncomfortable to me, but whatever. The amount of skin truly doesn't bother me (and it is certainly appreciated by my sons). Don't we all like to look at pretty things? (Or silently judge those who don't pull it off?)

DH went to a visit a friend who has a teen daughter. She is quite busty and was wearing a tube top. When he came by, she was constantly lifting up her tube top, and it was clear she was not comfortable wearing it. He kept thinking, "why are you wearing that ? You look so uncomfortable". And before you call him a perv, no, he thought she was ridiculous. He has no problem with nudity in general, but clearly she was not comfortable wearing that.

But why do you guys care if she was uncomfortable? Women have been uncomfortable in the name of fashion for centuries -- stilettos, corsets, headdresses, etc. (And why in the world would I call him a perv? That seems a strange reaction as well.)

When someone is constantly grabbing at a tube top and adjusting their breasts, it is poor manners and distracting. Don’t wear underwear that you feel compelled to pick out of crack in public either. Same thing

I'm sure your one of those who is always adjusting your frumpy tops due to your muffin tops. Get over it.

An interesting turn this thread has taken is the people who claim to be defending these young women to wear what they want in peace by making aggressively misogynistic and body-shaming comments about older women.

There's a PhD thesis in these comments.

I’m 51 and defending them. I don’t care what you wear. I do care you are equating athletes, honor roll students, good kids, to hookers bc they wear a short dress. I have a big problem with that, actually.

Would it be okay to equate C students who don’t participate in extra curricular activities and possibly go to parties at which there is underage drinking to hookers?

And nobody has said the the girls are hookers. But they’re dressing like absolute trash and their moms are egging them on for some completely baffling reason.

Dave Chappelle explained this “uniform” years ago…

To clarify, I think all of you frigid B’s who get bent out of shape over good looking and young women wearing short dresses and who are calling them prostitutes (oh sorry, LOOKING like prostitutes, as if that makes you any less uglier) the only trash on this Board.

You also have serious hang ups with sexuality. Yours and, weirdly, other peoples. And you’re beyond strange bc of it.

A 14 yr old doesn't need to be dressing like a prostitute, and it's weird that parents are ok with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much vitriol for a flipping dress. It’s super weird. Don’t let your daughter wear them and be done with it. Judging other kids using the term prostitute is degrading and just wrong.

I know I wore skirts that were shorter and tighter than my would have liked and probably a ton of other things. But she kept her mouth shut and I am doing the same. I have a strong confident kid and I’ll do what I can to empower her to stay that way. Cutting down her clothing choices is not one of them.

It’s 100% 1-2 trolls that keep coming back and shame posting

That’s what I think, too. And you can tell they aren’t the typically well-educated DMV mothers.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 52-year-old mother to two college-aged sons. It is weird to me that so many people are triggered by these dresses. I don't have any issue with them -- they cover up way more than the bikinis that were on display throughout the summer. Have you guys been on college campuses recently and seen what girls are wearing to their classes? It looks really uncomfortable to me, but whatever. The amount of skin truly doesn't bother me (and it is certainly appreciated by my sons). Don't we all like to look at pretty things? (Or silently judge those who don't pull it off?)

DH went to a visit a friend who has a teen daughter. She is quite busty and was wearing a tube top. When he came by, she was constantly lifting up her tube top, and it was clear she was not comfortable wearing it. He kept thinking, "why are you wearing that ? You look so uncomfortable". And before you call him a perv, no, he thought she was ridiculous. He has no problem with nudity in general, but clearly she was not comfortable wearing that.

But why do you guys care if she was uncomfortable? Women have been uncomfortable in the name of fashion for centuries -- stilettos, corsets, headdresses, etc. (And why in the world would I call him a perv? That seems a strange reaction as well.)

When someone is constantly grabbing at a tube top and adjusting their breasts, it is poor manners and distracting. Don’t wear underwear that you feel compelled to pick out of crack in public either. Same thing

I'm sure your one of those who is always adjusting your frumpy tops due to your muffin tops. Get over it.

An interesting turn this thread has taken is the people who claim to be defending these young women to wear what they want in peace by making aggressively misogynistic and body-shaming comments about older women.

There's a PhD thesis in these comments.

I’m 51 and defending them. I don’t care what you wear. I do care you are equating athletes, honor roll students, good kids, to hookers bc they wear a short dress. I have a big problem with that, actually.

Would it be okay to equate C students who don’t participate in extra curricular activities and possibly go to parties at which there is underage drinking to hookers?

And nobody has said the the girls are hookers. But they’re dressing like absolute trash and their moms are egging them on for some completely baffling reason.

Dave Chappelle explained this “uniform” years ago…

To clarify, I think all of you frigid B’s who get bent out of shape over good looking and young women wearing short dresses and who are calling them prostitutes (oh sorry, LOOKING like prostitutes, as if that makes you any less uglier) the only trash on this Board.

You also have serious hang ups with sexuality. Yours and, weirdly, other peoples. And you’re beyond strange bc of it.

A 14 yr old doesn't need to be dressing like a prostitute, and it's weird that parents are ok with that.

It's because they like it. How gross is that? They like it....

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 52-year-old mother to two college-aged sons. It is weird to me that so many people are triggered by these dresses. I don't have any issue with them -- they cover up way more than the bikinis that were on display throughout the summer. Have you guys been on college campuses recently and seen what girls are wearing to their classes? It looks really uncomfortable to me, but whatever. The amount of skin truly doesn't bother me (and it is certainly appreciated by my sons). Don't we all like to look at pretty things? (Or silently judge those who don't pull it off?)

DH went to a visit a friend who has a teen daughter. She is quite busty and was wearing a tube top. When he came by, she was constantly lifting up her tube top, and it was clear she was not comfortable wearing it. He kept thinking, "why are you wearing that ? You look so uncomfortable". And before you call him a perv, no, he thought she was ridiculous. He has no problem with nudity in general, but clearly she was not comfortable wearing that.

But why do you guys care if she was uncomfortable? Women have been uncomfortable in the name of fashion for centuries -- stilettos, corsets, headdresses, etc. (And why in the world would I call him a perv? That seems a strange reaction as well.)

When someone is constantly grabbing at a tube top and adjusting their breasts, it is poor manners and distracting. Don’t wear underwear that you feel compelled to pick out of crack in public either. Same thing

I'm sure your one of those who is always adjusting your frumpy tops due to your muffin tops. Get over it.

An interesting turn this thread has taken is the people who claim to be defending these young women to wear what they want in peace by making aggressively misogynistic and body-shaming comments about older women.

There's a PhD thesis in these comments.

I’m 51 and defending them. I don’t care what you wear. I do care you are equating athletes, honor roll students, good kids, to hookers bc they wear a short dress. I have a big problem with that, actually.

Would it be okay to equate C students who don’t participate in extra curricular activities and possibly go to parties at which there is underage drinking to hookers?

And nobody has said the the girls are hookers. But they’re dressing like absolute trash and their moms are egging them on for some completely baffling reason.

Dave Chappelle explained this “uniform” years ago…

To clarify, I think all of you frigid B’s who get bent out of shape over good looking and young women wearing short dresses and who are calling them prostitutes (oh sorry, LOOKING like prostitutes, as if that makes you any less uglier) the only trash on this Board.

You also have serious hang ups with sexuality. Yours and, weirdly, other peoples. And you’re beyond strange bc of it.

A 14 yr old doesn't need to be dressing like a prostitute, and it's weird that parents are ok with that.

It's because they like it. How gross is that? They like it....

^^^ I think this is one of the trolls that keeps posting over and over and over and over again. I wish I knew more about their lives -- I'm kind of curious about what makes them behave this way.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 52-year-old mother to two college-aged sons. It is weird to me that so many people are triggered by these dresses. I don't have any issue with them -- they cover up way more than the bikinis that were on display throughout the summer. Have you guys been on college campuses recently and seen what girls are wearing to their classes? It looks really uncomfortable to me, but whatever. The amount of skin truly doesn't bother me (and it is certainly appreciated by my sons). Don't we all like to look at pretty things? (Or silently judge those who don't pull it off?)

DH went to a visit a friend who has a teen daughter. She is quite busty and was wearing a tube top. When he came by, she was constantly lifting up her tube top, and it was clear she was not comfortable wearing it. He kept thinking, "why are you wearing that ? You look so uncomfortable". And before you call him a perv, no, he thought she was ridiculous. He has no problem with nudity in general, but clearly she was not comfortable wearing that.

But why do you guys care if she was uncomfortable? Women have been uncomfortable in the name of fashion for centuries -- stilettos, corsets, headdresses, etc. (And why in the world would I call him a perv? That seems a strange reaction as well.)

When someone is constantly grabbing at a tube top and adjusting their breasts, it is poor manners and distracting. Don’t wear underwear that you feel compelled to pick out of crack in public either. Same thing

I'm sure your one of those who is always adjusting your frumpy tops due to your muffin tops. Get over it.

An interesting turn this thread has taken is the people who claim to be defending these young women to wear what they want in peace by making aggressively misogynistic and body-shaming comments about older women.

There's a PhD thesis in these comments.

I’m 51 and defending them. I don’t care what you wear. I do care you are equating athletes, honor roll students, good kids, to hookers bc they wear a short dress. I have a big problem with that, actually.

Would it be okay to equate C students who don’t participate in extra curricular activities and possibly go to parties at which there is underage drinking to hookers?

And nobody has said the the girls are hookers. But they’re dressing like absolute trash and their moms are egging them on for some completely baffling reason.

Dave Chappelle explained this “uniform” years ago…

To clarify, I think all of you frigid B’s who get bent out of shape over good looking and young women wearing short dresses and who are calling them prostitutes (oh sorry, LOOKING like prostitutes, as if that makes you any less uglier) the only trash on this Board.

You also have serious hang ups with sexuality. Yours and, weirdly, other peoples. And you’re beyond strange bc of it.

A 14 yr old doesn't need to be dressing like a prostitute, and it's weird that parents are ok with that.

It's because they like it. How gross is that? They like it....

Kids like lots of inappropriate things. It's up to you, the parent, to guide them.

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Anonymous wrote:People always miss the point on this topic. Girls can wear whatever they want but always notice the boy norms mean their bodies are covered by clothes and they are comfortable. Who is really dictating what these girls are wearing? Is it the girls themselves? Not really.

Acting like this is your daughters somehow showing agency and having body positivity is just dumb. They are sheep.

Bullshit. It's "body positivity" to be peer pressured into dressing like a street whore? Actually the opposite. A cute teen girl who dresses modestly is the most body positive and confident of them all.

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Anonymous wrote:People always miss the point on this topic. Girls can wear whatever they want but always notice the boy norms mean their bodies are covered by clothes and they are comfortable. Who is really dictating what these girls are wearing? Is it the girls themselves? Not really.

Acting like this is your daughters somehow showing agency and having body positivity is just dumb. They are sheep.

Bullshit. It's "body positivity" to be peer pressured into dressing like a street whore? Actually the opposite. A cute teen girl who dresses modestly is the most body positive and confident of them all.

or someone who doesn't follow "trends that are inappropriate for 14 year olds" is someone who is confident and has self respect.

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Anonymous wrote:Or maybe it’s not an all encompassing statement on feminism and they are teen girls that want to look nice/ feel pretty and have fun with their friends and not be called prostitutes/ whores for doing so.

We can debate pretty privilege and the invisibility of older/ overweight women for hours but it won’t change the reality of both of those things.

Your post demonstrates our current emperor has no clothes, narcissistic society.

Everyone wants to do whatever they want whenever they want while simultaneously dictating to everyone else what they should think about it. If your thoughts don’t match the narrative, no matter how insane or wrong that narrative is, then obviously you’re the problem.

(In your example, some girls want to dress like prostitutes without anyone thinking they are dressed like prostitutes.)

I think you might be the one struggling with reality.

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NP from 10:29 back and I think this thread is absolutely insane and not in touch with reality at all. Like I said I hope these girls feel free to work it baby! However they see fit. Jumpsuit, short skirt whatever. Do you! Have fun! YOLO

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Anonymous wrote:People always miss the point on this topic. Girls can wear whatever they want but always notice the boy norms mean their bodies are covered by clothes and they are comfortable. Who is really dictating what these girls are wearing? Is it the girls themselves? Not really.

Acting like this is your daughters somehow showing agency and having body positivity is just dumb. They are sheep.

Bullshit. It's "body positivity" to be peer pressured into dressing like a street whore? Actually the opposite. A cute teen girl who dresses modestly is the most body positive and confident of them all.

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The moms who encourage their daughters to wear these skanky dresses are insane.

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Anonymous wrote:NP from 10:29 back and I think this thread is absolutely insane and not in touch with reality at all. Like I said I hope these girls feel free to work it baby! However they see fit. Jumpsuit, short skirt whatever. Do you! Have fun! YOLO

That's right.. show your butt, your nip.. bare it all. #girlpower /s