TSJFC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over the last 2-3 years, the biggest mistake FCV made was acquiring Barca. The club went for a short cut to build up the boys side in an effort to obtain MLS Next status. I believe this was primarily a corporate decision that was sold to the higher ups by AB. It stood in stark contrast to how CC and BP envisioned and ran the club for years. Ultimately, this, and a number of other factors, drove the two sides apart and the club imploding.

Barca and FCV coming together was like oil and water. Two completely different set of parents and administrative operations. It didn't work at all.

In the long run, FCV will be fine - look at the number of U9 and U10 teams they're able to form. And they do have a roster of good and reputable coaches in the area. Plus, if anyone spends anytime around TSJ, you know how the entity dominates in other sports across this area.

How? FCV North doesn't have any girl U9-11 team to play in the Fall 2024 NCSL
https://www.ncsl-soccer.com/division-structure

They have 1 team…. 2 if you count the U11 playing up.
But, def not the number of teams per age group as before. 2 teams for 4 age groups. Eek

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/113568592-113390709/TEAM.html

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/111179521-113390727/TEAM.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over the last 2-3 years, the biggest mistake FCV made was acquiring Barca. The club went for a short cut to build up the boys side in an effort to obtain MLS Next status. I believe this was primarily a corporate decision that was sold to the higher ups by AB. It stood in stark contrast to how CC and BP envisioned and ran the club for years. Ultimately, this, and a number of other factors, drove the two sides apart and the club imploding.

Barca and FCV coming together was like oil and water. Two completely different set of parents and administrative operations. It didn't work at all.

In the long run, FCV will be fine - look at the number of U9 and U10 teams they're able to form. And they do have a roster of good and reputable coaches in the area. Plus, if anyone spends anytime around TSJ, you know how the entity dominates in other sports across this area.

How? FCV North doesn't have any girl U9-11 team to play in the Fall 2024 NCSL
https://www.ncsl-soccer.com/division-structure

They have 1 team…. 2 if you count the U11 playing up.
But, def not the number of teams per age group as before. 2 teams for 4 age groups. Eek

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/113568592-113390709/TEAM.html

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/111179521-113390727/TEAM.html

FCV’s North girls program is in a bad place if they intend to stay based in Loudoun. There are now 3 clubs vying for the same players. There just isn’t a big enough pool of girl players in Loudoun to support 3 ECNL/GA clubs. Maybe there is some opportunity for them in Fairfax with the McLean/Brave merger but then they should establish fields in Fairfax to draw from that pool of players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over the last 2-3 years, the biggest mistake FCV made was acquiring Barca. The club went for a short cut to build up the boys side in an effort to obtain MLS Next status. I believe this was primarily a corporate decision that was sold to the higher ups by AB. It stood in stark contrast to how CC and BP envisioned and ran the club for years. Ultimately, this, and a number of other factors, drove the two sides apart and the club imploding.

Barca and FCV coming together was like oil and water. Two completely different set of parents and administrative operations. It didn't work at all.

In the long run, FCV will be fine - look at the number of U9 and U10 teams they're able to form. And they do have a roster of good and reputable coaches in the area. Plus, if anyone spends anytime around TSJ, you know how the entity dominates in other sports across this area.

How? FCV North doesn't have any girl U9-11 team to play in the Fall 2024 NCSL
https://www.ncsl-soccer.com/division-structure

They have 1 team…. 2 if you count the U11 playing up.
But, def not the number of teams per age group as before. 2 teams for 4 age groups. Eek

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/113568592-113390709/TEAM.html

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/111179521-113390727/TEAM.html

FCV’s North girls program is in a bad place if they intend to stay based in Loudoun. There are now 3 clubs vying for the same players. There just isn’t a big enough pool of girl players in Loudoun to support 3 ECNL/GA clubs. Maybe there is some opportunity for them in Fairfax with the McLean/Brave merger but then they should establish fields in Fairfax to draw from that pool of players.

Not sure how much better being based at their south location will help either. Will have to compete with SYC and Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over the last 2-3 years, the biggest mistake FCV made was acquiring Barca. The club went for a short cut to build up the boys side in an effort to obtain MLS Next status. I believe this was primarily a corporate decision that was sold to the higher ups by AB. It stood in stark contrast to how CC and BP envisioned and ran the club for years. Ultimately, this, and a number of other factors, drove the two sides apart and the club imploding.

Barca and FCV coming together was like oil and water. Two completely different set of parents and administrative operations. It didn't work at all.

In the long run, FCV will be fine - look at the number of U9 and U10 teams they're able to form. And they do have a roster of good and reputable coaches in the area. Plus, if anyone spends anytime around TSJ, you know how the entity dominates in other sports across this area.

Who are the good and reputable coaches?

EA on the boys side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over the last 2-3 years, the biggest mistake FCV made was acquiring Barca. The club went for a short cut to build up the boys side in an effort to obtain MLS Next status. I believe this was primarily a corporate decision that was sold to the higher ups by AB. It stood in stark contrast to how CC and BP envisioned and ran the club for years. Ultimately, this, and a number of other factors, drove the two sides apart and the club imploding.

Barca and FCV coming together was like oil and water. Two completely different set of parents and administrative operations. It didn't work at all.

In the long run, FCV will be fine - look at the number of U9 and U10 teams they're able to form. And they do have a roster of good and reputable coaches in the area. Plus, if anyone spends anytime around TSJ, you know how the entity dominates in other sports across this area.

Who are the good and reputable coaches?

EA on the boys side.

CP is pretty solid as well. My friend's son played for him in the spring and stayed because he was coaching his age again this year.

[Anonymous]

The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

In years past there were less clubs. There was enough room for 2 clubs in Loudoun (FCV, LS) but now there are 3 clubs for the same number of players and it’s too many.

[Anonymous]

Where are the fields?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

Leadership inspires coaches, coaches inspire players. A break in that chain and people bail. But any basic business growth strategy includes protecting or retaining the base. Even fast food places have loyalty programs. They failed to do that...clearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

Leadership inspires coaches, coaches inspire players. A break in that chain and people bail. But any basic business growth strategy includes protecting or retaining the base. Even fast food places have loyalty programs. They failed to do that...clearly.

Dude you are way over thinking this. Who is choosing a club for their kid because they are inspired by the leadership or coaches? Most just choose the one that is closest to where they live and where most of their friends play. When they get older, some might need to switch clubs in search of more playing time. Stop making this so complicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

Leadership inspires coaches, coaches inspire players. A break in that chain and people bail. But any basic business growth strategy includes protecting or retaining the base. Even fast food places have loyalty programs. They failed to do that...clearly.

Dude you are way over thinking this. Who is choosing a club for their kid because they are inspired by the leadership or coaches? Most just choose the one that is closest to where they live and where most of their friends play. When they get older, some might need to switch clubs in search of more playing time. Stop making this so complicated.

I think OP used the wrong word "inspire" I don't think they were using it in the traditional inspirational sense. Leadership impacts coaches, coaches impact players. If leadership is broken, coaches leave and then players will leave. it has a domino/cascading affect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

Leadership inspires coaches, coaches inspire players. A break in that chain and people bail. But any basic business growth strategy includes protecting or retaining the base. Even fast food places have loyalty programs. They failed to do that...clearly.

Dude you are way over thinking this. Who is choosing a club for their kid because they are inspired by the leadership or coaches? Most just choose the one that is closest to where they live and where most of their friends play. When they get older, some might need to switch clubs in search of more playing time. Stop making this so complicated.

For Rec Soccer sure. Not for serious kids with college aspirations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over the last 2-3 years, the biggest mistake FCV made was acquiring Barca. The club went for a short cut to build up the boys side in an effort to obtain MLS Next status. I believe this was primarily a corporate decision that was sold to the higher ups by AB. It stood in stark contrast to how CC and BP envisioned and ran the club for years. Ultimately, this, and a number of other factors, drove the two sides apart and the club imploding.

Barca and FCV coming together was like oil and water. Two completely different set of parents and administrative operations. It didn't work at all.

In the long run, FCV will be fine - look at the number of U9 and U10 teams they're able to form. And they do have a roster of good and reputable coaches in the area. Plus, if anyone spends anytime around TSJ, you know how the entity dominates in other sports across this area.

How? FCV North doesn't have any girl U9-11 team to play in the Fall 2024 NCSL
https://www.ncsl-soccer.com/division-structure

They have 1 team…. 2 if you count the U11 playing up.
But, def not the number of teams per age group as before. 2 teams for 4 age groups. Eek

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/113568592-113390709/TEAM.html

http://elements.demosphere.com/80738/teams/113390582/111179521-113390727/TEAM.html

FCV’s North girls program is in a bad place if they intend to stay based in Loudoun. There are now 3 clubs vying for the same players. There just isn’t a big enough pool of girl players in Loudoun to support 3 ECNL/GA clubs. Maybe there is some opportunity for them in Fairfax with the McLean/Brave merger but then they should establish fields in Fairfax to draw from that pool of players.

That would mean buying their own fields which probably won't happen. TSJFC is for profit and for profit entities are allocated Fairfax county field space behind nonprofits, so they'd get whatever is left over after every other club in the county gets their fields

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are fine. Coaching is not the problem. The problem is getting a large enough player pool to have competitive teams especially on the girls side. There are too many clubs and teams concentrated in a small area. The only way to grow your pool is to get good players to leave another club which is a tough sell. It’s supply and demand.

That would make sense if the club didn’t have 2 teams per age group in years past. Now, it’s at 1/2 per age group. Can’t grow your pool, when everyone has jumped ship.
No, it’s not the coaches- they’re all new. It’s the leadership.

Leadership inspires coaches, coaches inspire players. A break in that chain and people bail. But any basic business growth strategy includes protecting or retaining the base. Even fast food places have loyalty programs. They failed to do that...clearly.

Dude you are way over thinking this. Who is choosing a club for their kid because they are inspired by the leadership or coaches? Most just choose the one that is closest to where they live and where most of their friends play. When they get older, some might need to switch clubs in search of more playing time. Stop making this so complicated.

For Rec Soccer sure. Not for serious kids with college aspirations.

No, even for the serious kids. On any ECNL team, the large majority of players are from nearby. Most of NVA's players live in Loudoun or western fairfax. Most of Arlington's team lives closeby, and so on. Yes there are exceptions where a player will travel far when there are closer options but those are usually because they weren't getting enough playing time. It's really the exception to play for a ECNL team that is significantly further away when there are other ECNL teams close by.