One by one, the lockdown myths are crumbling

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Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

This is completely false. Many jurisdictions made BETTER choices. There were demonstrably better choices that places like DC refused, due to political influences. I realize there is some cognitive dissonance in having to face the fact that some things presented to you as “science” were in fact completely made up, like the “6 ft rule.” But some of us won’t forget and our view on public health regulations (and regulation in general) has been irrevocably changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Shutting schools down for an extended period was definitely harmful especially for younger kids for whom remote learning was a joke. In many states it was the teachers unions who did a real disservice. An early on shut down was understandable given the level of fear but soon it became know that the risk to children was much lower than adults. Yes, the teachers were adults but masks etc proved to be effective.

And people why people don’t want to go into the teaching profession. Who cares if they get sick. A mask should be sufficient to combat deadly virus from multiple sources for eight hours.

It works in hospitals.

WORK? UM no, people DIED!

Because they weren't wearing two masks.

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Anonymous wrote:Shutting schools down for an extended period was definitely harmful especially for younger kids for whom remote learning was a joke. In many states it was the teachers unions who did a real disservice. An early on shut down was understandable given the level of fear but soon it became know that the risk to children was much lower than adults. Yes, the teachers were adults but masks etc proved to be effective.

school was a super spreader site. these policies was never about protecting children from getting the disease and the notion that it was is some kind of weird revisionist history.

Also, the children are fine.

Test scores and juvenile crime rates suggest that the children are not fine.

+1. The children are not fine. My son was in kindergarten in March 2020. The learning loss and behavior issues among young elementary kids is immense. So many kids in 3rd-6th grade now lacking basic social skills and unaware of behavioral norms.

NP. I don’t understand why you didn’t do a friends’ pod?! I did it with my 5th and 7th grader because they needed to be around friends. My 5th grader had a pod of 5 friends and they rotated houses during the school shutdown. My 7th grader had meet ups at parks and different houses with friends. My younger kid isn’t as far ahead in math because zoom math was tough. It was on parents to organize these things.

Ma’am a pod of 5 families is a super spreader event. Shame on you.

No one got Covid but I see you’re trolling.

Ma’am you didn’t contain the spread. Your kids were not podded.

The problem is that you are explaining what you did like it was the good and honorable thing.

Yes, being a responsible parent is a good thing. Assessing personal risk is a good thing. Remarkably, there were many, many people just like me who didn’t completely freak out and move to the fringes of anti or pro anything. We just rolled with things and focused on what we could do so that our kids’ needs were met while recognizing the world was going through a pandemic.

Yes, like you, the people who moved kids to private or moved to places with open schools “just rolled with it.” But don’t pretend you contained the spread with a 40+ person “pod”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

The government made decisions because the public said, "Do something." For instance, the 6' rule was completely fabricated. There was nothing to back that up other than "make people feel good." Discussions about the origins of the pandemic? No need. It had already been decided.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/graisondangor/2021/09/19/cdcs-six-foot-social-distancing-rule-was-arbitrary-says-former-fda-commissioner/?sh=524c2b49e8e6

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

You mean the people crying that everyone hasn't moved on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

why are we the whiners, and not the ones who insisted that 2 yr olds wear masks to make themselves feel better?

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Anonymous wrote:Shutting schools down for an extended period was definitely harmful especially for younger kids for whom remote learning was a joke. In many states it was the teachers unions who did a real disservice. An early on shut down was understandable given the level of fear but soon it became know that the risk to children was much lower than adults. Yes, the teachers were adults but masks etc proved to be effective.

school was a super spreader site. these policies was never about protecting children from getting the disease and the notion that it was is some kind of weird revisionist history.

Also, the children are fine.

Test scores and juvenile crime rates suggest that the children are not fine.

+1. The children are not fine. My son was in kindergarten in March 2020. The learning loss and behavior issues among young elementary kids is immense. So many kids in 3rd-6th grade now lacking basic social skills and unaware of behavioral norms.

NP. I don’t understand why you didn’t do a friends’ pod?! I did it with my 5th and 7th grader because they needed to be around friends. My 5th grader had a pod of 5 friends and they rotated houses during the school shutdown. My 7th grader had meet ups at parks and different houses with friends. My younger kid isn’t as far ahead in math because zoom math was tough. It was on parents to organize these things.

Ma’am a pod of 5 families is a super spreader event. Shame on you.

No one got Covid but I see you’re trolling.

Ma’am you didn’t contain the spread. Your kids were not podded.

The problem is that you are explaining what you did like it was the good and honorable thing.

Yes, being a responsible parent is a good thing. Assessing personal risk is a good thing. Remarkably, there were many, many people just like me who didn’t completely freak out and move to the fringes of anti or pro anything. We just rolled with things and focused on what we could do so that our kids’ needs were met while recognizing the world was going through a pandemic.

you are so unbearably smug. there were plenty of places that did not close schools. this was a political choice, not some kind of phenomenon that could not be changed. your stance is basically that you’re so great and privileged, and your kids so low-need, that you could “roll with things.” others were not so lucky.

I’m not smug, I’m just not a big f**ing whiner. My stance is we went through a pandemic and I had to do more than usual as a parent. Don’t have kids if you can’t cope with sh*t. Plenty of parents were able to get through it and move on. Get it together and move on. I’m sure they will do things differently next time. Luckily, pandemics happen once every hundred years or so, so we won’t be here for the next one! Also be thankful you live in America where this is your biggest struggle and not Ukraine or some other war torn country! There things are closed and you hope you’re not getting killed by a bomb.

Your stance is “political choices don’t matter because they don’t affect me! everyone just needs to cope like I, perfect mom, did.” this is literally “let them eat cake.”

what’s clear is that the pandemic restrictions created a set of challenges that you affirmatively enjoyed and now long for because it allowed you to
prove your superiority.

I did not enjoy the pandemic. My kids should have been in school. But I didn’t outsource my responsibilities as a parent to politicians. Many parents met the challenge, sorry it was tough for you. Your need to revisit how tough things were for you is self-centered. Your online temper tantrum about things outside of your control is unbecoming. Honestly, you should know by now that as an American there isn’t a social safety net and no one cares about your personal struggles as a parent. But by all means, keep carrying on with your complaints into cyberspace. Whine it out. I’m not posting anymore because there is nothing more to say to you. You were given a challenge, like us all, and you failed.

lol you keep on missing the point. and what kind of utter narcissist is still going on and on about what a perfect parent they are because they enjoyed school shut-downs?

No wonder your kids struggle with learning, your reading comprehension is terrible. Rage on moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

why are we the whiners, and not the ones who insisted that 2 yr olds wear masks to make themselves feel better?

Nothing will ever top the whiners who screamed at their neighbors to wear a mask while walking outside, on the other side of the street. Now those same whiners are here crying "just forget about it, it's over!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

why are we the whiners, and not the ones who insisted that 2 yr olds wear masks to make themselves feel better?

Nothing will ever top the whiners who screamed at their neighbors to wear a mask while walking outside, on the other side of the street. Now those same whiners are here crying "just forget about it, it's over!"

This didn’t happen troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The school thing is highly dependent on money and parenting. The middle class and UMC kids with a SAHP or WAH parent with flexibility who gave a crap didn’t miss a beat.

Not necessarily true. I am a SAHP parent, and definitely care about my kids' education, but the virtual "education" was not good for my kids at all. They were a freshman and a junior in high school during that year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shutting schools down for an extended period was definitely harmful especially for younger kids for whom remote learning was a joke. In many states it was the teachers unions who did a real disservice. An early on shut down was understandable given the level of fear but soon it became know that the risk to children was much lower than adults. Yes, the teachers were adults but masks etc proved to be effective.

school was a super spreader site. these policies was never about protecting children from getting the disease and the notion that it was is some kind of weird revisionist history.

Also, the children are fine.

Test scores and juvenile crime rates suggest that the children are not fine.

+1. The children are not fine. My son was in kindergarten in March 2020. The learning loss and behavior issues among young elementary kids is immense. So many kids in 3rd-6th grade now lacking basic social skills and unaware of behavioral norms.

NP. I don’t understand why you didn’t do a friends’ pod?! I did it with my 5th and 7th grader because they needed to be around friends. My 5th grader had a pod of 5 friends and they rotated houses during the school shutdown. My 7th grader had meet ups at parks and different houses with friends. My younger kid isn’t as far ahead in math because zoom math was tough. It was on parents to organize these things.

Ma’am a pod of 5 families is a super spreader event. Shame on you.

No one got Covid but I see you’re trolling.

Ma’am you didn’t contain the spread. Your kids were not podded.

The problem is that you are explaining what you did like it was the good and honorable thing.

Yes, being a responsible parent is a good thing. Assessing personal risk is a good thing. Remarkably, there were many, many people just like me who didn’t completely freak out and move to the fringes of anti or pro anything. We just rolled with things and focused on what we could do so that our kids’ needs were met while recognizing the world was going through a pandemic.

Yes, like you, the people who moved kids to private or moved to places with open schools “just rolled with it.” But don’t pretend you contained the spread with a 40+ person “pod”.

4 tweens =|= 40 people. Kids were and still are in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

why are we the whiners, and not the ones who insisted that 2 yr olds wear masks to make themselves feel better?

Nothing will ever top the whiners who screamed at their neighbors to wear a mask while walking outside, on the other side of the street. Now those same whiners are here crying "just forget about it, it's over!"

This didn’t happen troll.

Wow, you have amnesia already? How about the neighbors who called the cops on kids playing in the park? That didn't happen either, right? You are a fool. We remember. You don't want anyone to talk about this because you'd rather we all just forget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

why are we the whiners, and not the ones who insisted that 2 yr olds wear masks to make themselves feel better?

Nothing will ever top the whiners who screamed at their neighbors to wear a mask while walking outside, on the other side of the street. Now those same whiners are here crying "just forget about it, it's over!"

This didn’t happen troll.

Wow, you have amnesia already? How about the neighbors who called the cops on kids playing in the park? That didn't happen either, right? You are a fool. We remember. You don't want anyone to talk about this because you'd rather we all just forget.

Where on earth do you live?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG--let it rest. People made the best decisions they could with the information they had.

Exactly.
Were perfect decisions made? of course not! Is it worth doing some after action/lessons learned analysis to improve actions for next time? Of course!
But this "gotcha" shit about myths crumbling is so offensive and stupid to people around the world who literally worked day and night doing their best to save lives.

+1

Fcking whiners.

why are we the whiners, and not the ones who insisted that 2 yr olds wear masks to make themselves feel better?

Nothing will ever top the whiners who screamed at their neighbors to wear a mask while walking outside, on the other side of the street. Now those same whiners are here crying "just forget about it, it's over!"

This didn’t happen troll.

Wow, you have amnesia already? How about the neighbors who called the cops on kids playing in the park? That didn't happen either, right? You are a fool. We remember. You don't want anyone to talk about this because you'd rather we all just forget.

Where on earth do you live?!

This was in LA. Had to get out of there. The crazy existed in pockets of the US, if you didn't experience this you are a lucky one. Our next-door and neighbor Facebook groups regularly posted pics of neighbors breaking "rules" or not masking outside to shame them.