Do great students sometimes get shut out?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

And how was it that the school knew that the student had been admitted to the US Coast Guard Academy?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

OP here. Two things:

One, the service academy stats are actually pretty middling. Not downplaying the achievement at all, but extraordinary is the wrong word as far as hard numbers go. There's no way an Auburn AO looked at his package and said, "Yes, he'll get accepted to a service academy." Objectively, he's a state school kid like his parents!

Two, if the SEC is trying to become more selective like PP's have claimed, surely he's the kind of student they would want?

(And in his defense, he by no means picked the highest rank school because of it's rank. It's been his dream for years.)

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

And how was it that the school knew that the student had been admitted to the US Coast Guard Academy?

This is another way PP's argument falls apart. In fact he was deferred first. Decisions came out something like two months apart.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

OP here. Two things:

One, the service academy stats are actually pretty middling. Not downplaying the achievement at all, but extraordinary is the wrong word as far as hard numbers go. There's no way an Auburn AO looked at his package and said, "Yes, he'll get accepted to a service academy." Objectively, he's a state school kid like his parents!

Two, if the SEC is trying to become more selective like PP's have claimed, surely he's the kind of student they would want?

(And in his defense, he by no means picked the highest rank school because of it's rank. It's been his dream for years.)

Nobody said that.

Auburn doesn’t have to know where else he got in. They have years of data of whether people just like him enrolled or not.

“Service academies aren’t that impressive and the kids are actually average” is pure DCUM insanity. Their successful applicants are very strong and well rounded.

Downgrading YOUR OWN CHILD’S ACCOMPLISHMENT makes me lose any sympathy I might have had for you.

Again, Auburn looks at the application and says “applicants who look like this guy don’t close”. Because they don’t. They are always looking for the better option.

He’s competing against the guy actually from Alabama with similar stats who lives and dies WAR EAGLE and writes in his essay about Tim Cook, now that guy closes. Instant admit.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

And how was it that the school knew that the student had been admitted to the US Coast Guard Academy?

Yield prediction algorithms.

They don’t know where else you got offers but they know how people like you behave historically.

That’s why “nobody from my High School went to this school lately” can be a handicap. People like you don’t go there.

They want yield, it’s less risky to offer admission to people who are a safer bet.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

I don’t think he’s in school yet? I think he’s a senior.

in = accepted for Fall '24

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

And how was it that the school knew that the student had been admitted to the US Coast Guard Academy?

This is another way PP's argument falls apart. In fact he was deferred first. Decisions came out something like two months apart.

How on earth does Harvard know they lose people to Stanford and Princeton? They must be psychic.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

OP here. Two things:

One, the service academy stats are actually pretty middling. Not downplaying the achievement at all, but extraordinary is the wrong word as far as hard numbers go. There's no way an Auburn AO looked at his package and said, "Yes, he'll get accepted to a service academy." Objectively, he's a state school kid like his parents!

Two, if the SEC is trying to become more selective like PP's have claimed, surely he's the kind of student they would want?

(And in his defense, he by no means picked the highest rank school because of it's rank. It's been his dream for years.)

Nobody said that.

Auburn doesn’t have to know where else he got in. They have years of data of whether people just like him enrolled or not.

“Service academies aren’t that impressive and the kids are actually average” is pure DCUM insanity. Their successful applicants are very strong and well rounded.

Downgrading YOUR OWN CHILD’S ACCOMPLISHMENT makes me lose any sympathy I might have had for you.

Again, Auburn looks at the application and says “applicants who look like this guy don’t close”. Because they don’t. They are always looking for the better option.

He’s competing against the guy actually from Alabama with similar stats who lives and dies WAR EAGLE and writes in his essay about Tim Cook, now that guy closes. Instant admit.

Holy intentional misinterpreting! I'm not downplaying! His stats are above average for the service academies, and I'm incredibly proud of his achievement. But on AVERAGE, the HARD NUMBERS are not what DCUM considers fantastic (ex: West Point SAT 1230-1430). Auburn's numbers are 1240-1370.

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OP, this thread should probably be done. From what I can tell, you are looking for a brag list for your DC, even if they are not.

It's always risky if a college admission is conditioned on physical health, whether it is a service academy or a sports team. Sounds like your DC has options if they are no longer able to enroll in a service academy. Astute parents and college counselors ask student athletes, "if you are no longer on the team, would you still want to attend this college?" If the answer is no, then kid needs to plan accordingly.

Again, it sounds like your DC has options if they do not attend the academy. If they do not like the state school, then they can work hard and transfer. Maybe even to Auburn.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It is no longer accurate. Not a good tool. USNews has accurate rankings. Naviance is also dated.

USNWR says it's rank 93rd, though?

I keep telling myself it's ok. He was accepted at his top choice, and hopefully he'll be able to attend. But there's a chance that he won't, and there are siblings behind him...

Okay, I don't get this. Your DC is in at a school, their top choice. What is the issue now?

It’s not enough to win the prize you want, you have to be the one rejecting those you see as inferior. They can’t reject you.

People here don’t need college counselors, they need therapists.

If this is the case, I agree. Sounds like it’s more of an issue for her than the child almost like it’s her being rejected or deferred or whatever happened.

“My child got their first choice with no drama but I am really concerned they got waitlisted from their safety” is a truly incredible sentiment.

Is the point of all this to get your kid into the school they want to attend or is it to collect a ‘brag list’ of offers?

Oh, wow. Sounds like Auburn did the right thing.

OP says their kid got into a Service Academy, so yeah Auburn yield protected by waitlisting.

Service academies are free, so tuition is not an issue. The only problem going would be failing the medical exam which is rare but does happen.

So this is a case of there is a 95% chance my kid won’t go to your school but I want the admit for them anyway as insurance.

Auburn decided to give the slot to another kid much more likely to attend.

They have a 44% admit rate and they got 48,000 applications. Yield is around 30%.

These are the numbers for a competitive and desirable school! They don’t want to be your backup catastrophe plan.

State schools don't yield protect and have no idea where applicants were otherwise admitted.

Virginia Tech most certainly yield protects. ask any TJ parent

They literally say they don't.

In any case, we're talking Auburn, not VT. The rest of PP's post is irrelevant, since schools have no idea where else a student applied/was admitted. In Ivy-land, maybe, but not when it comes to public universities.

I think even the thickest admissions office can look at an out of state kid with no demonstrated interest and the extraordinary stats and ECs needed to get into a service academy and decide “yeah this kid is very unlikely to come here.”

OP didn’t do anything wrong, they just assumed that their very strong candidate kid would surely be accepted at what seemed to be a middle of the pack state school.

Those schools now realize those kids aren’t coming and they applied to 20 schools and they will pick the highest rank one they got into. Which is exactly what OP’s kid did.

And how was it that the school knew that the student had been admitted to the US Coast Guard Academy?

This is another way PP's argument falls apart. In fact he was deferred first. Decisions came out something like two months apart.

How on earth does Harvard know they lose people to Stanford and Princeton? They must be psychic.

I don't see how they could possibly know that.

And for whatever it's worth, DS also applied to Annapolis. He'll turn it down if he's accepted, and yes, I can hear DCUM screeching about that through my computer. You absolutely cannot predict what human beings will do, even if your yield protection calculator says you can.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this thread should probably be done. From what I can tell, you are looking for a brag list for your DC, even if they are not.

It's always risky if a college admission is conditioned on physical health, whether it is a service academy or a sports team. Sounds like your DC has options if they are no longer able to enroll in a service academy. Astute parents and college counselors ask student athletes, "if you are no longer on the team, would you still want to attend this college?" If the answer is no, then kid needs to plan accordingly.

Again, it sounds like your DC has options if they do not attend the academy. If they do not like the state school, then they can work hard and transfer. Maybe even to Auburn.

I said multiple times I'm not looking for a brag list, or to rag on Auburn for being "inferior yet rejecting him." I'm concerned something will happen physically to him between now and June, and as of right now, he has no other acceptances. Sure, he's not worried, but that's because he's an optimist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, this thread should probably be done. From what I can tell, you are looking for a brag list for your DC, even if they are not.

It's always risky if a college admission is conditioned on physical health, whether it is a service academy or a sports team. Sounds like your DC has options if they are no longer able to enroll in a service academy. Astute parents and college counselors ask student athletes, "if you are no longer on the team, would you still want to attend this college?" If the answer is no, then kid needs to plan accordingly.

Again, it sounds like your DC has options if they do not attend the academy. If they do not like the state school, then they can work hard and transfer. Maybe even to Auburn.

I said multiple times I'm not looking for a brag list, or to rag on Auburn for being "inferior yet rejecting him." I'm concerned something will happen physically to him between now and June, and as of right now, he has no other acceptances. Sure, he's not worried, but that's because he's an optimist.

Because there’s nothing to worry about.

If he somehow fails the physical he can take a gap year or go to George Mason for a year while he figures out the next step.

[Anonymous]

OP, please read the following article:

Algorithms for College Admissions: What to Know College applicants should understand how schools use predictive analytics and what it means for admissions decisions

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-admissions-algorithms-could-affect-your-college-acceptance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, this thread should probably be done. From what I can tell, you are looking for a brag list for your DC, even if they are not.

It's always risky if a college admission is conditioned on physical health, whether it is a service academy or a sports team. Sounds like your DC has options if they are no longer able to enroll in a service academy. Astute parents and college counselors ask student athletes, "if you are no longer on the team, would you still want to attend this college?" If the answer is no, then kid needs to plan accordingly.

Again, it sounds like your DC has options if they do not attend the academy. If they do not like the state school, then they can work hard and transfer. Maybe even to Auburn.

I said multiple times I'm not looking for a brag list, or to rag on Auburn for being "inferior yet rejecting him." I'm concerned something will happen physically to him between now and June, and as of right now, he has no other acceptances. Sure, he's not worried, but that's because he's an optimist.

Because there’s nothing to worry about.

If he somehow fails the physical he can take a gap year or go to George Mason for a year while he figures out the next step.

You're right. I'm sorry. I thought the EA announcement would alleviate the anxiety, but I'm afraid it only made it worse.