900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I'll maintain that the American govt was built on the genocide of the African American community. I'm not sure why when African American genocide is discussed other group's trauma is discussed so that it has to be a pissing contest of who is the most traumatized. This is specifically an American issue.

Secondly, all of you who lack basic empathy, humanity and refuse to hold your forefathers accountable may you reap what you sow upon yourselves. ITNOY.

You are not a victim. Your parents aren't victims. I suspect you went to a better private high school, a better college than I did. I am very tired of people appropriating historical trauma like it's some kind of blood legacy. Stop browbeating people into feeling sorry for you. It doesn't make them like you and it only works on the kind of "nice" affluent white liberals who still send their kids to segregated schools, still live in the suburbs, etc.

The victim mentality just leads to entitlement. You are not entitled to money, reparations, free stuff, or anything beyond your essential rights. No money or stuff will improve the opportunities for black youth. They (and their parents) have to make better choices - no one is going to do that for you.

The horrific past cannot be undone, but we can learn from it and do better. We can collectively try to work hard to make better choices.

Trauma happens. Poverty happens. Single parent households happen. In the US and DC you have all the opportunities in the world to support you - but no one is going to make your good choices for you.

Enough with the excuses.

That’s the thing - someone needs to be making decisions for them. They obviously can’t.

Um... no

Um… yes. Someone needs to tell these people that they need to be in school.

No. What you said and called for is not only extremely racist it's also antithetical to American values.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding DC schools, which, yes, have more money thrown at them than any school system I've ever seen, mostly to dismal results...

The lottery system and its subsequent churn waste so much money. Charter schools and the structures that have spring up supporting them waste more. Take a look at the rates at which lower income kids change schools, at faculty retention numbers. Instead of blaming parents, figure out how someone working 70 hours weeks and more than one job can also have the means to supervise their family.

I agree that public education could be endlessly "looked at" in DC and is a huge mind *. However, public charters did more for our city than anything else to galvanize public schools to be more 'competitive'. What we need is specialized public or public charter schools to divert the really difficult children to, rather than 'inclusion for all', including chair-throwing Johnny. KIPP gets a bad rap from the charter-haters, but its longer school day serves a portion of the population really well. We'd be at a loss without KIPP. More specialization, not less.

I think Kipp is one of the best charters. We don't disagree about its positive outcomes.

But "competition" as a model for education is some bs. Why are you accepting that some kids get to end up at failed models? How is that equitable? What I saw with my friends' kids was endless church to lottery into the "right" charters, with right mostly being determined by their cultural and socioeconomic status. I saw bright, amazing kids attend four different elementary schools. I saw plenty of affluent families decamp to the suburbs. I saw families with SN kids get counseled out of their charters. I saw so many kids fall through the cracks, end up at charters who closed a year or two later and then back into the system they went.

The idea of school systems "competing" for students isn't efficient. It's basically grafting a zero sum outcome onto public education. It's profiteering. It's vulture capitalism. And anyone who says differently has their beak in the pie.

So you'd like there to be one newspaper that serves up the same drivel? Competition is everything, and they are both public schools. Some of these charters failed because they were serving "the hardest kids" and charter requirements in DC are beyond stringent. Much more so than regular public with the 40-60 percent truancy rates. Where are those kids now? F*-ing up your kids classroom, or on the streets. Think about it. Glad we can agree on KIPP at least.

If you're not aware of why competition doesn't work in education (or healthcare) I suspect it's because you've always been the beneficiary of some weighted dice. I mean, of course you have. That's why you think competition is fine and dandy. You think you come from a family of "winners."

Me, I was raised to think everyone should have access to the same educational benefits tracked and tailored according to their needs. Other kids aren't messing up my kid's classroom, and she goes to a high-poverty school you wouldn't set foot in. Children who deserve a chance to learn how nice it is to learn. It's your typical white people DC chargers who counsel those nine years olds out for "behavior." And that's a problem because where do they go?

I'm tired of people who've learned to game the system acting like they've gotten something for merit.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I'll maintain that the American govt was built on the genocide of the African American community. I'm not sure why when African American genocide is discussed other group's trauma is discussed so that it has to be a pissing contest of who is the most traumatized. This is specifically an American issue.

Secondly, all of you who lack basic empathy, humanity and refuse to hold your forefathers accountable may you reap what you sow upon yourselves. ITNOY.

You are not a victim. Your parents aren't victims. I suspect you went to a better private high school, a better college than I did. I am very tired of people appropriating historical trauma like it's some kind of blood legacy. Stop browbeating people into feeling sorry for you. It doesn't make them like you and it only works on the kind of "nice" affluent white liberals who still send their kids to segregated schools, still live in the suburbs, etc.

The victim mentality just leads to entitlement. You are not entitled to money, reparations, free stuff, or anything beyond your essential rights. No money or stuff will improve the opportunities for black youth. They (and their parents) have to make better choices - no one is going to do that for you.

The horrific past cannot be undone, but we can learn from it and do better. We can collectively try to work hard to make better choices.

Trauma happens. Poverty happens. Single parent households happen. In the US and DC you have all the opportunities in the world to support you - but no one is going to make your good choices for you.

Enough with the excuses.

That’s the thing - someone needs to be making decisions for them. They obviously can’t.

Um... no

Um… yes. Someone needs to tell these people that they need to be in school.

No. What you said and called for is not only extremely racist it's also antithetical to American values.

School is Anti American? Sounds about right.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d love that ranked choice thing to happen. I want to elect a more centrist city council. I also secretly hope trump wins.

Oh I know it’ll be insane and that he is a megalomaniac dictator. I know he’s be terrible for United States. The world would loathe him and be skeptical of the US. We bam abortion. And all would be terrible. It would be the end of democracy in the unites states maybe.

But at the same time, trump would put in place a crime control board in dc similar to the financial control board of the 80’s. Trump would be the one appointing the USAO who would definitely not be some progressive criminal justice soft on crime, don’t prosecute 67% of cases type of person like the one appointed now. Trump would prob send in the en national guard to stop car jackings in dc.

Basically, the republicans are correct on crime. It needs swift punishment. Right now we have a bunch of progressive fks crying about needing more funding and “wrap around services so we can attack the root causes of poverty and end this crime scourge in…some point in the future”.


Basically I’m so sick of crime apologist liberals and I am liberal!!!!

Uh … no. A different republican maybe but Trump is a moron and is incapable of governing.

Compared to Biden, he's Winston Churchill.
But realistically, both are terrible and unacceptable.

No he isn't. Compared to Biden he's Bozo the Clown. Compared to Bozo the Clown he's a monkey strung out on meth.

A nasty orange clown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding DC schools, which, yes, have more money thrown at them than any school system I've ever seen, mostly to dismal results...

The lottery system and its subsequent churn waste so much money. Charter schools and the structures that have spring up supporting them waste more. Take a look at the rates at which lower income kids change schools, at faculty retention numbers. Instead of blaming parents, figure out how someone working 70 hours weeks and more than one job can also have the means to supervise their family.

I agree that public education could be endlessly "looked at" in DC and is a huge mind *. However, public charters did more for our city than anything else to galvanize public schools to be more 'competitive'. What we need is specialized public or public charter schools to divert the really difficult children to, rather than 'inclusion for all', including chair-throwing Johnny. KIPP gets a bad rap from the charter-haters, but its longer school day serves a portion of the population really well. We'd be at a loss without KIPP. More specialization, not less.

I think Kipp is one of the best charters. We don't disagree about its positive outcomes.

But "competition" as a model for education is some bs. Why are you accepting that some kids get to end up at failed models? How is that equitable? What I saw with my friends' kids was endless church to lottery into the "right" charters, with right mostly being determined by their cultural and socioeconomic status. I saw bright, amazing kids attend four different elementary schools. I saw plenty of affluent families decamp to the suburbs. I saw families with SN kids get counseled out of their charters. I saw so many kids fall through the cracks, end up at charters who closed a year or two later and then back into the system they went.

The idea of school systems "competing" for students isn't efficient. It's basically grafting a zero sum outcome onto public education. It's profiteering. It's vulture capitalism. And anyone who says differently has their beak in the pie.

So you'd like there to be one newspaper that serves up the same drivel? Competition is everything, and they are both public schools. Some of these charters failed because they were serving "the hardest kids" and charter requirements in DC are beyond stringent. Much more so than regular public with the 40-60 percent truancy rates. Where are those kids now? F*-ing up your kids classroom, or on the streets. Think about it. Glad we can agree on KIPP at least.

If you're not aware of why competition doesn't work in education (or healthcare) I suspect it's because you've always been the beneficiary of some weighted dice. I mean, of course you have. That's why you think competition is fine and dandy. You think you come from a family of "winners."

Me, I was raised to think everyone should have access to the same educational benefits tracked and tailored according to their needs. Other kids aren't messing up my kid's classroom, and she goes to a high-poverty school you wouldn't set foot in. Children who deserve a chance to learn how nice it is to learn. It's your typical white people DC chargers who counsel those nine years olds out for "behavior." And that's a problem because where do they go?

I'm tired of people who've learned to game the system acting like they've gotten something for merit.

I'm a teacher and a parent, and I'm fine with public, public charter, and even gasp, parochial and independent schools co existing. Not to mention specialized schools as well. But fall on your sword. It's always refreshing to see folks who put their money (in your case) kids where their mouth is. Three cheers for true believers!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding DC schools, which, yes, have more money thrown at them than any school system I've ever seen, mostly to dismal results...

The lottery system and its subsequent churn waste so much money. Charter schools and the structures that have spring up supporting them waste more. Take a look at the rates at which lower income kids change schools, at faculty retention numbers. Instead of blaming parents, figure out how someone working 70 hours weeks and more than one job can also have the means to supervise their family.

I agree that public education could be endlessly "looked at" in DC and is a huge mind *. However, public charters did more for our city than anything else to galvanize public schools to be more 'competitive'. What we need is specialized public or public charter schools to divert the really difficult children to, rather than 'inclusion for all', including chair-throwing Johnny. KIPP gets a bad rap from the charter-haters, but its longer school day serves a portion of the population really well. We'd be at a loss without KIPP. More specialization, not less.

I think Kipp is one of the best charters. We don't disagree about its positive outcomes.

But "competition" as a model for education is some bs. Why are you accepting that some kids get to end up at failed models? How is that equitable? What I saw with my friends' kids was endless church to lottery into the "right" charters, with right mostly being determined by their cultural and socioeconomic status. I saw bright, amazing kids attend four different elementary schools. I saw plenty of affluent families decamp to the suburbs. I saw families with SN kids get counseled out of their charters. I saw so many kids fall through the cracks, end up at charters who closed a year or two later and then back into the system they went.

The idea of school systems "competing" for students isn't efficient. It's basically grafting a zero sum outcome onto public education. It's profiteering. It's vulture capitalism. And anyone who says differently has their beak in the pie.

So you'd like there to be one newspaper that serves up the same drivel? Competition is everything, and they are both public schools. Some of these charters failed because they were serving "the hardest kids" and charter requirements in DC are beyond stringent. Much more so than regular public with the 40-60 percent truancy rates. Where are those kids now? F*-ing up your kids classroom, or on the streets. Think about it. Glad we can agree on KIPP at least.

If you're not aware of why competition doesn't work in education (or healthcare) I suspect it's because you've always been the beneficiary of some weighted dice. I mean, of course you have. That's why you think competition is fine and dandy. You think you come from a family of "winners."

Me, I was raised to think everyone should have access to the same educational benefits tracked and tailored according to their needs. Other kids aren't messing up my kid's classroom, and she goes to a high-poverty school you wouldn't set foot in. Children who deserve a chance to learn how nice it is to learn. It's your typical white people DC chargers who counsel those nine years olds out for "behavior." And that's a problem because where do they go?

I'm tired of people who've learned to game the system acting like they've gotten something for merit.

get back to us when you send your daughter to Dunbar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d love that ranked choice thing to happen. I want to elect a more centrist city council. I also secretly hope trump wins.

Oh I know it’ll be insane and that he is a megalomaniac dictator. I know he’s be terrible for United States. The world would loathe him and be skeptical of the US. We bam abortion. And all would be terrible. It would be the end of democracy in the unites states maybe.

But at the same time, trump would put in place a crime control board in dc similar to the financial control board of the 80’s. Trump would be the one appointing the USAO who would definitely not be some progressive criminal justice soft on crime, don’t prosecute 67% of cases type of person like the one appointed now. Trump would prob send in the en national guard to stop car jackings in dc.

Basically, the republicans are correct on crime. It needs swift punishment. Right now we have a bunch of progressive fks crying about needing more funding and “wrap around services so we can attack the root causes of poverty and end this crime scourge in…some point in the future”.


Basically I’m so sick of crime apologist liberals and I am liberal!!!!

Uh … no. A different republican maybe but Trump is a moron and is incapable of governing.

Compared to Biden, he's Winston Churchill.
But realistically, both are terrible and unacceptable.

No he isn't. Compared to Biden he's Bozo the Clown. Compared to Bozo the Clown he's a monkey strung out on meth.

Sounds like you are the latter.
Your card deck is collapsing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding DC schools, which, yes, have more money thrown at them than any school system I've ever seen, mostly to dismal results...

The lottery system and its subsequent churn waste so much money. Charter schools and the structures that have spring up supporting them waste more. Take a look at the rates at which lower income kids change schools, at faculty retention numbers. Instead of blaming parents, figure out how someone working 70 hours weeks and more than one job can also have the means to supervise their family.

I agree that public education could be endlessly "looked at" in DC and is a huge mind *. However, public charters did more for our city than anything else to galvanize public schools to be more 'competitive'. What we need is specialized public or public charter schools to divert the really difficult children to, rather than 'inclusion for all', including chair-throwing Johnny. KIPP gets a bad rap from the charter-haters, but its longer school day serves a portion of the population really well. We'd be at a loss without KIPP. More specialization, not less.

I think Kipp is one of the best charters. We don't disagree about its positive outcomes.

But "competition" as a model for education is some bs. Why are you accepting that some kids get to end up at failed models? How is that equitable? What I saw with my friends' kids was endless church to lottery into the "right" charters, with right mostly being determined by their cultural and socioeconomic status. I saw bright, amazing kids attend four different elementary schools. I saw plenty of affluent families decamp to the suburbs. I saw families with SN kids get counseled out of their charters. I saw so many kids fall through the cracks, end up at charters who closed a year or two later and then back into the system they went.

The idea of school systems "competing" for students isn't efficient. It's basically grafting a zero sum outcome onto public education. It's profiteering. It's vulture capitalism. And anyone who says differently has their beak in the pie.

So you'd like there to be one newspaper that serves up the same drivel? Competition is everything, and they are both public schools. Some of these charters failed because they were serving "the hardest kids" and charter requirements in DC are beyond stringent. Much more so than regular public with the 40-60 percent truancy rates. Where are those kids now? F*-ing up your kids classroom, or on the streets. Think about it. Glad we can agree on KIPP at least.

If you're not aware of why competition doesn't work in education (or healthcare) I suspect it's because you've always been the beneficiary of some weighted dice. I mean, of course you have. That's why you think competition is fine and dandy. You think you come from a family of "winners."

Me, I was raised to think everyone should have access to the same educational benefits tracked and tailored according to their needs. Other kids aren't messing up my kid's classroom, and she goes to a high-poverty school you wouldn't set foot in. Children who deserve a chance to learn how nice it is to learn. It's your typical white people DC chargers who counsel those nine years olds out for "behavior." And that's a problem because where do they go?

I'm tired of people who've learned to game the system acting like they've gotten something for merit.

I'm a teacher and a parent, and I'm fine with public, public charter, and even gasp, parochial and independent schools co existing. Not to mention specialized schools as well. But fall on your sword. It's always refreshing to see folks who put their money (in your case) kids where their mouth is. Three cheers for true believers!

I am assuming the parent poster has kids in elem. Cause like most UMC parents, we found a better option by 5th. peer group matter by middle school. My kid is no longer the top of the class at her title 1. At her new school pretty much 80% of the class is on or above grade level. Its definitely pushing her. Every kid and parent takes school and behavior seriously

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Anonymous wrote:People have seriously lost their minds. I am truly hoping the posts about "giving everyone under 18 a car" and the BS about brains not being wholly formed until 26 and that these thugs are "kids" are sarcastic.

How about this? In addition to trying them as adults and throwing them in jail for a long time, how about we round up their absentee parents and throw them in jail too?

For the people standing in the back, such as yourself, multi-generational trauma caused by the United States gov't, atrocities, war crimes committed by the govt against the African American community has contributed to this factor.

The government has failed to apologize for its atrocities, nor has it paid reparations to African Americans.

This issue is systemic and is what happens when the govt stole a people from their land, enslaved them for 400 years, had Jim Crow, periods of lynching, mass incarceration, no civil rights and voting before 1965, science experiments on poor African Americans, under-resourced schools, etc.

Shall I continue?

The stealing of cars is the least of DC's problems.

What do you propose we do about all the shot and killed black people and kids, typically killed by other black people? A teen shot another teen in the Petworth metro just before 3 today.

Acknowledge the DNA based trauma and also acknowledge the poverty harms. Poverty brings a set of trauma of its own, provide more social workers, resources in the schools, therapy for the families, etc. healthy families equal a healthy society. Healthcare should be free in this country for everyone so that people can access the resources that they need.

You know that low income children and their parents (or often, parent) get free healthcare. Have you never heard of medicaid? Look it up.

DNA trauma? that will excuse anything for generations

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Anonymous wrote:People - Many of these so-called suspects are children!

By law, they are entitled to “youthful offender” status, and understandably treated differently when they slip up. Everyone makes mistakes. Youthful offender goes up to age 26 in DC.

Don’t you want to give children a second chance?

Nope not when they are engaged in violent crimes

Like I literally just don't care

Locking ppl up LT does stop them from committing crimes and provides some deterrence

How's all this light / no sentencing working out?

Jesus Christ. Listen to yourself. You want to sentence kids to long-term prison sentences. You are lacking a serious mental compass.
ANd are an example of the depths of sh--- this country is sinking to.

Violent 25 year olds are not kids

They are kids until they reach the age of 26. Before that their brains aren't fully formed. I'm sorry, but that's just basic science.

maybe so. But unless they truly have a mental disability or an IQ below 80, even a 13 year old knows that car jacking or robbing someone at gun point is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People - Many of these so-called suspects are children!

By law, they are entitled to “youthful offender” status, and understandably treated differently when they slip up. Everyone makes mistakes. Youthful offender goes up to age 26 in DC.

Don’t you want to give children a second chance?

Nope not when they are engaged in violent crimes

Like I literally just don't care

Locking ppl up LT does stop them from committing crimes and provides some deterrence

How's all this light / no sentencing working out?

Jesus Christ. Listen to yourself. You want to sentence kids to long-term prison sentences. You are lacking a serious mental compass.
ANd are an example of the depths of sh--- this country is sinking to.

Violent 25 year olds are not kids

They are kids until they reach the age of 26. Before that their brains aren't fully formed. I'm sorry, but that's just basic science.

maybe so. But unless they truly have a mental disability or an IQ below 80, even a 13 year old knows that car jacking or robbing someone at gun point is wrong.

Did someone tell them that? Who decided it is wrong?

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The USAO no paper rate increased at the end of Obama's term and continued to rise under Trump and Biden appointees. It's recent history but maybe people are not aware? Trumps USA was no savior.

The office culture and performance of career prosecutors deserves a look. Prior to 2017, DC prosecuted @ 73% of arrests, consistently under D & R appointed USAOs. Since 2017 the rate of no papered cases has climbed to almost that number being no papered or not prosecuted. And the results are obvious. There have been multiple USAs in that time so they can't be the only driver.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People - Many of these so-called suspects are children!

By law, they are entitled to “youthful offender” status, and understandably treated differently when they slip up. Everyone makes mistakes. Youthful offender goes up to age 26 in DC.

Don’t you want to give children a second chance?

Nope not when they are engaged in violent crimes

Like I literally just don't care

Locking ppl up LT does stop them from committing crimes and provides some deterrence

How's all this light / no sentencing working out?

Jesus Christ. Listen to yourself. You want to sentence kids to long-term prison sentences. You are lacking a serious mental compass.
ANd are an example of the depths of sh--- this country is sinking to.

Violent 25 year olds are not kids

They are kids until they reach the age of 26. Before that their brains aren't fully formed. I'm sorry, but that's just basic science.

maybe so. But unless they truly have a mental disability or an IQ below 80, even a 13 year old knows that car jacking or robbing someone at gun point is wrong.

Actually the AG and USAO have taught this generation that carjacking is no big deal.

https://www.hillrag.com/2023/12/06/carjacking-is-no-big-deal/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding DC schools, which, yes, have more money thrown at them than any school system I've ever seen, mostly to dismal results...

The lottery system and its subsequent churn waste so much money. Charter schools and the structures that have spring up supporting them waste more. Take a look at the rates at which lower income kids change schools, at faculty retention numbers. Instead of blaming parents, figure out how someone working 70 hours weeks and more than one job can also have the means to supervise their family.

I agree that public education could be endlessly "looked at" in DC and is a huge mind *. However, public charters did more for our city than anything else to galvanize public schools to be more 'competitive'. What we need is specialized public or public charter schools to divert the really difficult children to, rather than 'inclusion for all', including chair-throwing Johnny. KIPP gets a bad rap from the charter-haters, but its longer school day serves a portion of the population really well. We'd be at a loss without KIPP. More specialization, not less.

I think Kipp is one of the best charters. We don't disagree about its positive outcomes.

But "competition" as a model for education is some bs. Why are you accepting that some kids get to end up at failed models? How is that equitable? What I saw with my friends' kids was endless church to lottery into the "right" charters, with right mostly being determined by their cultural and socioeconomic status. I saw bright, amazing kids attend four different elementary schools. I saw plenty of affluent families decamp to the suburbs. I saw families with SN kids get counseled out of their charters. I saw so many kids fall through the cracks, end up at charters who closed a year or two later and then back into the system they went.

The idea of school systems "competing" for students isn't efficient. It's basically grafting a zero sum outcome onto public education. It's profiteering. It's vulture capitalism. And anyone who says differently has their beak in the pie.

So you'd like there to be one newspaper that serves up the same drivel? Competition is everything, and they are both public schools. Some of these charters failed because they were serving "the hardest kids" and charter requirements in DC are beyond stringent. Much more so than regular public with the 40-60 percent truancy rates. Where are those kids now? F*-ing up your kids classroom, or on the streets. Think about it. Glad we can agree on KIPP at least.

If you're not aware of why competition doesn't work in education (or healthcare) I suspect it's because you've always been the beneficiary of some weighted dice. I mean, of course you have. That's why you think competition is fine and dandy. You think you come from a family of "winners."

Me, I was raised to think everyone should have access to the same educational benefits tracked and tailored according to their needs. Other kids aren't messing up my kid's classroom, and she goes to a high-poverty school you wouldn't set foot in. Children who deserve a chance to learn how nice it is to learn. It's your typical white people DC chargers who counsel those nine years olds out for "behavior." And that's a problem because where do they go?

I'm tired of people who've learned to game the system acting like they've gotten something for merit.

I'm a teacher and a parent, and I'm fine with public, public charter, and even gasp, parochial and independent schools co existing. Not to mention specialized schools as well. But fall on your sword. It's always refreshing to see folks who put their money (in your case) kids where their mouth is. Three cheers for true believers!

I am assuming the parent poster has kids in elem. Cause like most UMC parents, we found a better option by 5th. peer group matter by middle school. My kid is no longer the top of the class at her title 1. At her new school pretty much 80% of the class is on or above grade level. Its definitely pushing her. Every kid and parent takes school and behavior seriously

The only part that has really faltered during covid has unfortunately been mainstream public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding DC schools, which, yes, have more money thrown at them than any school system I've ever seen, mostly to dismal results...

The lottery system and its subsequent churn waste so much money. Charter schools and the structures that have spring up supporting them waste more. Take a look at the rates at which lower income kids change schools, at faculty retention numbers. Instead of blaming parents, figure out how someone working 70 hours weeks and more than one job can also have the means to supervise their family.

I agree that public education could be endlessly "looked at" in DC and is a huge mind *. However, public charters did more for our city than anything else to galvanize public schools to be more 'competitive'. What we need is specialized public or public charter schools to divert the really difficult children to, rather than 'inclusion for all', including chair-throwing Johnny. KIPP gets a bad rap from the charter-haters, but its longer school day serves a portion of the population really well. We'd be at a loss without KIPP. More specialization, not less.

I think Kipp is one of the best charters. We don't disagree about its positive outcomes.

But "competition" as a model for education is some bs. Why are you accepting that some kids get to end up at failed models? How is that equitable? What I saw with my friends' kids was endless church to lottery into the "right" charters, with right mostly being determined by their cultural and socioeconomic status. I saw bright, amazing kids attend four different elementary schools. I saw plenty of affluent families decamp to the suburbs. I saw families with SN kids get counseled out of their charters. I saw so many kids fall through the cracks, end up at charters who closed a year or two later and then back into the system they went.

The idea of school systems "competing" for students isn't efficient. It's basically grafting a zero sum outcome onto public education. It's profiteering. It's vulture capitalism. And anyone who says differently has their beak in the pie.

So you'd like there to be one newspaper that serves up the same drivel? Competition is everything, and they are both public schools. Some of these charters failed because they were serving "the hardest kids" and charter requirements in DC are beyond stringent. Much more so than regular public with the 40-60 percent truancy rates. Where are those kids now? F*-ing up your kids classroom, or on the streets. Think about it. Glad we can agree on KIPP at least.

If you're not aware of why competition doesn't work in education (or healthcare) I suspect it's because you've always been the beneficiary of some weighted dice. I mean, of course you have. That's why you think competition is fine and dandy. You think you come from a family of "winners."

Me, I was raised to think everyone should have access to the same educational benefits tracked and tailored according to their needs. Other kids aren't messing up my kid's classroom, and she goes to a high-poverty school you wouldn't set foot in. Children who deserve a chance to learn how nice it is to learn. It's your typical white people DC chargers who counsel those nine years olds out for "behavior." And that's a problem because where do they go?

I'm tired of people who've learned to game the system acting like they've gotten something for merit.

I'm a teacher and a parent, and I'm fine with public, public charter, and even gasp, parochial and independent schools co existing. Not to mention specialized schools as well. But fall on your sword. It's always refreshing to see folks who put their money (in your case) kids where their mouth is. Three cheers for true believers!

I am assuming the parent poster has kids in elem. Cause like most UMC parents, we found a better option by 5th. peer group matter by middle school. My kid is no longer the top of the class at her title 1. At her new school pretty much 80% of the class is on or above grade level. Its definitely pushing her. Every kid and parent takes school and behavior seriously

The only part that has really faltered during covid has unfortunately been mainstream public.

and I'm glad you found a good school, whatever type it is. your child matters.