Not quite. Her op-Ed hits close to home. This became an issue in Montgomery County Public Schools and it was largely driven by Muslims. It went beyond books to the family life curriculum in health (sex ed/safe sex). The catholic pope has softened on lgbtq issues, and he’s the official spokesperson. The reality is most Americans aren’t religious—and if they affiliate with a religion they aren’t rabidly committed to outdated teachings. For me, it comes down to what the average practitioner says. And Zainab is an average practitioner who has a platform through her day job and other professional affiliations—which she should presumably use to build bridges and tolerance. Yet she hasn’t. Back to the point: this all played out in MoCo, and the group with the anti-lgbtq agenda wasn’t catholic or Jewish. |
Omg Jeff, I am CRYING at this story. She’dve ended up with a well whooped @$$ if she had gone in there. The Hebrew Israelites do NOT play.
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You're labeling an entire group based off of one person? That's just as bigoted as being anti-lgbtq. |
I wish I could applaud you IRL. You get it 300%. Coming from another country that hasn’t taken sides on the Israel/Palestine wars, I was shocked by how curated and Zionist propaganda-filled U.S. “news” on the issue is. |
NP. You sound very stupid. The FBI absolutely relies on the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, and a handful of other nonprofits for its raw data and definition of hate crimes. |
No, not quite. I’m not a fan of labeling any group because no group marches in lockstep at the macro level. But if you google Zainab and what she personally said with regards to what was going on in MoCo/mcps, she said—on behalf of her org CAIR—that they wanted to opt out of lgbtq books/content to protect their religious freedom and “deeply held” religious beliefs. So, Zainab was seemingly using her org’s platform to speak on behalf of Muslims and their deeply held religious beliefs. Shall we hold her accountable—a public figure who serves as a spokesperson? |
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On one hand, we have people like Stuart Seldowitz and those who share his views. They are usually very careful about going full Stu Seldowitz, of course, but rest assured that they are cut from nearly unlimited cloth.
On the other hand, we have people like Susan Sarandon and some actress from a horror movie franchise, and those that share their views. I happen to think there are billions of people across the globe who share their views / opinions, but your mileage may vary. Having said that, can anyone explain why the actions of the former are not absolutely drowning out anything that can said about the actions of the latter? Like, why are we even taking about ANYONE other that Stu? |
Sure, but there are Muslims who accept lgbtq just like there are Christians/Catholics and Jews who do. But the 10 Commandments themselves say homosexuality is a sin. |
Sigh. Can you get beyond the whataboutism and focus on Zainab—the public figure in leadership positions making her a spokesperson for the Muslim community—and what she has publicly championed on the community’s behalf? She’s not some rando tweeting missives. |
This thread is about hate crimes, and Zainab hasn't committed one, so not sure why you'd focus on her while calling the fact that nearly all religions consider homosexuality a sin "whataboutism". |
There was that city in Michigan that had an all-Muslim city council that forbade the flying of the pride flag on public property. They even fired employees who tried to violate the ban on acknowledging Pride Month. |
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Stu from NYC was arrested.
So that islamaphobe was quickly dealt with. |
| The "Full Stu" is now a euphemism for a racist tirade. |
NP. It's fair game to call Evangelicals "Christian nationalists" and even potential domestic terrorists for espousing exactly the same beliefs. If it is framed as a threat when it comes from Christians, I'm not sure why it should be different when it comes from Muslims or anyone else for that matter. |
Because antisemitism is more significant threat at this point. |