Predict DW's response when I tell her I would like her to lose some weight

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Anonymous wrote:As a guy I can’t imagine why I would need to bring this up? Is she really less attractive?
Passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says.


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Both quotes are likely written by women - try persuade yourself that’s true. Life will show you it’s not. Spouses are only happy if both are overweight but not when one person is into workouts and health and the other eats bags of chips. These are not compatible


I am the poster that says passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says. I am a guy 6’4” 245 and hover around 10-15% body fat. I workout in some form 5-6 days a week. My wife is 5’3” was 125-130 when we we met. She is currently 155-165, and at one point she was over 200lbs. Not for 1 sec has my desire for her ever dipped. She is a beautiful woman. I just want her to be healthy and comfortable that number isn’t for me to decide. So “These” are compatible.


What you wrote just proves my point. You have 29 BMI overweight ; your wife 28.4 also overweight (was obese when over 200). People tend to find attractive what’s close by looks to themselves

I don’t think if you were 6’4 180lbs you would find a 200lbs woman anywhere near attractive




Look. Most people would still love their spouse and find them attractive if they gained weight. Just like most people would still love their kids and enjoy their company even if they didn’t achieve in school/sports/whatever.

I get that this wasn’t your experience. That you weren’t loved as a kid. That you didn’t love your husband of 20 years, and that you don’t love the man you are currently sleeping with. I get that you have chosen to surround yourself with friends who are cheating and screaming at each other in whatever relationship they are in.

But most people are like this guy. They love their spouse. They love their kids. And that’s just the end of it. It’s more or less unconditional.



I don’t you can generalize these things. Many people sure. I don’t think it holds true for most men. For many if not most “Love” is completely conditional on sexual attraction which is most often determined by physical appearance.


My wife has gained 50%of her body weight. She was once 5'9" 140 and is now 210. Physically, she is a completely different person. She ate her way from being a marathon runner to someone who literally can't run due to her size.

I still love her but I am not sexually attracted to her.


She can’t run because she is out of shape. I’m 5’8” and 190lbs, and I just ran five miles yesterday.


If that is true and you keep on doing it you will wreck your knees. That's way too much weight for your height.


All exercise no matter the weight will ruin knees. Pretending it’s weight related is just plain weightizm.


Reality is people who are low in fat, cannot protect their joints, and will have more issues with their knees when they run, than people who are slightly overweight.
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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Sure if you have a kindergarten education. But if you have an education beyond that, you’ll understand that there are a lot of things that are in play, including cortisol levels, hormonal levels, require drug intakes to treat diseases, sexual abuse, rape victimization, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Ah, thank you, Mr. Spock!
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Anonymous wrote:As a guy I can’t imagine why I would need to bring this up? Is she really less attractive?
Passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says.


This


Both quotes are likely written by women - try persuade yourself that’s true. Life will show you it’s not. Spouses are only happy if both are overweight but not when one person is into workouts and health and the other eats bags of chips. These are not compatible


I am the poster that says passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says. I am a guy 6’4” 245 and hover around 10-15% body fat. I workout in some form 5-6 days a week. My wife is 5’3” was 125-130 when we we met. She is currently 155-165, and at one point she was over 200lbs. Not for 1 sec has my desire for her ever dipped. She is a beautiful woman. I just want her to be healthy and comfortable that number isn’t for me to decide. So “These” are compatible.


What you wrote just proves my point. You have 29 BMI overweight ; your wife 28.4 also overweight (was obese when over 200). People tend to find attractive what’s close by looks to themselves

I don’t think if you were 6’4 180lbs you would find a 200lbs woman anywhere near attractive




Look. Most people would still love their spouse and find them attractive if they gained weight. Just like most people would still love their kids and enjoy their company even if they didn’t achieve in school/sports/whatever.

I get that this wasn’t your experience. That you weren’t loved as a kid. That you didn’t love your husband of 20 years, and that you don’t love the man you are currently sleeping with. I get that you have chosen to surround yourself with friends who are cheating and screaming at each other in whatever relationship they are in.

But most people are like this guy. They love their spouse. They love their kids. And that’s just the end of it. It’s more or less unconditional.



I don’t you can generalize these things. Many people sure. I don’t think it holds true for most men. For many if not most “Love” is completely conditional on sexual attraction which is most often determined by physical appearance.


My wife has gained 50%of her body weight. She was once 5'9" 140 and is now 210. Physically, she is a completely different person. She ate her way from being a marathon runner to someone who literally can't run due to her size.

I still love her but I am not sexually attracted to her.


She can’t run because she is out of shape. I’m 5’8” and 190lbs, and I just ran five miles yesterday.


Yikes. This does not sound advisable
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Anonymous wrote:Do you watch too much porn? I think men whose sexual attraction doesn’t evolve over time get the majority of sexual arousal from the same women on porn - who don’t age or gain weight.

I don’t think you can change your wife and telling her you aren’t attracted to her will kill any desire she has for you.

As a woman who has gained 50 lbs in the past year, I can tell you that she knows she’s heavier than he previous weight. You don’t need to tell her. She need less stress, more time, and more self esteem. You can only help with giving her more time and taking items off her mental tasks.



THIS^^

She knows, and isn't happy about it. And, she's got too much on her plate, with work, parenting, sick kids, kid birthday parties, Dr appts, driving kids to various activities, etc. But she doesn't have enough help at home, has too much going on at work, and takes care of everyone but herself. If you want to support her, do more at home, amd give her time to take care of herself.


If the above posts are true, then it is very likely that DH is a huge part of the problem based on his crap OP. Maybe she is unhappy in the marriage and needs to get out.


Yes. It is obvious that DH is force feeding her those big macsand Twinkies at an alarming rate. It's ot her fault, you see. She's just a victim of the patriarchy and a misogynistic spouse.
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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Sure if you have a kindergarten education. But if you have an education beyond that, you’ll understand that there are a lot of things that are in play, including cortisol levels, hormonal levels, require drug intakes to treat diseases, sexual abuse, rape victimization, etc.


None of which factors any fat or obese people even take into consideration whilst relentlessly stuffing their maws. Their weight problems are anyone's fault but their own.
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Anonymous wrote:As a guy I can’t imagine why I would need to bring this up? Is she really less attractive?
Passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says.


This


Both quotes are likely written by women - try persuade yourself that’s true. Life will show you it’s not. Spouses are only happy if both are overweight but not when one person is into workouts and health and the other eats bags of chips. These are not compatible


I am the poster that says passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says. I am a guy 6’4” 245 and hover around 10-15% body fat. I workout in some form 5-6 days a week. My wife is 5’3” was 125-130 when we we met. She is currently 155-165, and at one point she was over 200lbs. Not for 1 sec has my desire for her ever dipped. She is a beautiful woman. I just want her to be healthy and comfortable that number isn’t for me to decide. So “These” are compatible.


What you wrote just proves my point. You have 29 BMI overweight ; your wife 28.4 also overweight (was obese when over 200). People tend to find attractive what’s close by looks to themselves

I don’t think if you were 6’4 180lbs you would find a 200lbs woman anywhere near attractive




Look. Most people would still love their spouse and find them attractive if they gained weight. Just like most people would still love their kids and enjoy their company even if they didn’t achieve in school/sports/whatever.

I get that this wasn’t your experience. That you weren’t loved as a kid. That you didn’t love your husband of 20 years, and that you don’t love the man you are currently sleeping with. I get that you have chosen to surround yourself with friends who are cheating and screaming at each other in whatever relationship they are in.

But most people are like this guy. They love their spouse. They love their kids. And that’s just the end of it. It’s more or less unconditional.



I don’t you can generalize these things. Many people sure. I don’t think it holds true for most men. For many if not most “Love” is completely conditional on sexual attraction which is most often determined by physical appearance.


My wife has gained 50%of her body weight. She was once 5'9" 140 and is now 210. Physically, she is a completely different person. She ate her way from being a marathon runner to someone who literally can't run due to her size.

I still love her but I am not sexually attracted to her.


She can’t run because she is out of shape. I’m 5’8” and 190lbs, and I just ran five miles yesterday.


If that is true and you keep on doing it you will wreck your knees. That's way too much weight for your height.


All exercise no matter the weight will ruin knees. Pretending it’s weight related is just plain weightizm.


Reality is people who are low in fat, cannot protect their joints, and will have more issues with their knees when they run, than people who are slightly overweight.


Because physics doesn't matter,well I guess not. This kind of ignorance is why we have an obesity pandemic. Kids aren't taught to read and write, no way are.they going to learn anything about healthy nutrition. It really just boils down to having a society which encourages people to be fat and stupid,most likely because there is money to be made from it.
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Anonymous wrote:As a guy I can’t imagine why I would need to bring this up? Is she really less attractive?
Passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says.


This


Both quotes are likely written by women - try persuade yourself that’s true. Life will show you it’s not. Spouses are only happy if both are overweight but not when one person is into workouts and health and the other eats bags of chips. These are not compatible


I am the poster that says passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says. I am a guy 6’4” 245 and hover around 10-15% body fat. I workout in some form 5-6 days a week. My wife is 5’3” was 125-130 when we we met. She is currently 155-165, and at one point she was over 200lbs. Not for 1 sec has my desire for her ever dipped. She is a beautiful woman. I just want her to be healthy and comfortable that number isn’t for me to decide. So “These” are compatible.


What you wrote just proves my point. You have 29 BMI overweight ; your wife 28.4 also overweight (was obese when over 200). People tend to find attractive what’s close by looks to themselves

I don’t think if you were 6’4 180lbs you would find a 200lbs woman anywhere near attractive




Look. Most people would still love their spouse and find them attractive if they gained weight. Just like most people would still love their kids and enjoy their company even if they didn’t achieve in school/sports/whatever.

I get that this wasn’t your experience. That you weren’t loved as a kid. That you didn’t love your husband of 20 years, and that you don’t love the man you are currently sleeping with. I get that you have chosen to surround yourself with friends who are cheating and screaming at each other in whatever relationship they are in.

But most people are like this guy. They love their spouse. They love their kids. And that’s just the end of it. It’s more or less unconditional.



I don’t you can generalize these things. Many people sure. I don’t think it holds true for most men. For many if not most “Love” is completely conditional on sexual attraction which is most often determined by physical appearance.


My wife has gained 50%of her body weight. She was once 5'9" 140 and is now 210. Physically, she is a completely different person. She ate her way from being a marathon runner to someone who literally can't run due to her size.

I still love her but I am not sexually attracted to her.


Good lord. Op I sympathize. I thought at first it was going to be that she gained 20 pounds or something. But 70?? Woof. How does that even happen? I am a mom with a young child and I am within 3 pounds of my high school weight…which I maintain by exercising when I can and healthy eating. It’s not that hard.


I sounds to me like you have an eating disorder


It is a sad testament to our culture that if someone maintains their weight, they must have an eating disorder. I eat three good meals a day, plus wine and snacks lattes etc as I feel like it. I just don’t go overboard.
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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Sure if you have a kindergarten education. But if you have an education beyond that, you’ll understand that there are a lot of things that are in play, including cortisol levels, hormonal levels, require drug intakes to treat diseases, sexual abuse, rape victimization, etc.


I'm a DP but you are quite confused. The other "things in play" you're talking about can affect HOW MANY calories someone's body needs or WHY someone is consuming a particular amount of calories. They do not alter the basic fact that eating more calories than you burn is the cause of weight gain. Suppose someone starts "eating their feelings" in response to a trauma. That might be psychologically understandable, and we can sympathize with that person, but if they're eating more than they're burning, they're going to gain weight, and the solution is to eat less. Now, to do that, they might need counseling or therapy--something targeted at their emotional state rather than their physical--but that doesn't change the fact that if they want to lose weight, they're going to have to alter the equation of how much they eat and how much they burn. And it's always easier to reduce consumption than to increase burning.

"I gained weight because I aged". Well, as you aged, your body needed fewer calories to operate. That's normal. If you gained weight, it's because you didn't make a corresponding adjustment to your caloric intake. You need to also eat less as your body slows down.

"I gained weight because I don't have time to exercise." Not really. Exercise is an inefficient and often counterproductive way to lose weight. You can bust your hump on an elliptical for a half hour or skip a snack--same effect on the calorie equation. And if you have bad eating habits--as most overweight people do--then the exercise will just make them hungrier and result in weight GAIN because they won't know how to manage their intake as their need increases.

And so on. If you're not focused on reducing calories in relative to calories out, nothing else will matter for weight loss.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a guy I can’t imagine why I would need to bring this up? Is she really less attractive?
Passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says.


This


Both quotes are likely written by women - try persuade yourself that’s true. Life will show you it’s not. Spouses are only happy if both are overweight but not when one person is into workouts and health and the other eats bags of chips. These are not compatible


I am the poster that says passion for my wife runs a lot deeper than what a scale says. I am a guy 6’4” 245 and hover around 10-15% body fat. I workout in some form 5-6 days a week. My wife is 5’3” was 125-130 when we we met. She is currently 155-165, and at one point she was over 200lbs. Not for 1 sec has my desire for her ever dipped. She is a beautiful woman. I just want her to be healthy and comfortable that number isn’t for me to decide. So “These” are compatible.


What you wrote just proves my point. You have 29 BMI overweight ; your wife 28.4 also overweight (was obese when over 200). People tend to find attractive what’s close by looks to themselves

I don’t think if you were 6’4 180lbs you would find a 200lbs woman anywhere near attractive




Look. Most people would still love their spouse and find them attractive if they gained weight. Just like most people would still love their kids and enjoy their company even if they didn’t achieve in school/sports/whatever.

I get that this wasn’t your experience. That you weren’t loved as a kid. That you didn’t love your husband of 20 years, and that you don’t love the man you are currently sleeping with. I get that you have chosen to surround yourself with friends who are cheating and screaming at each other in whatever relationship they are in.

But most people are like this guy. They love their spouse. They love their kids. And that’s just the end of it. It’s more or less unconditional.



I don’t you can generalize these things. Many people sure. I don’t think it holds true for most men. For many if not most “Love” is completely conditional on sexual attraction which is most often determined by physical appearance.


My wife has gained 50%of her body weight. She was once 5'9" 140 and is now 210. Physically, she is a completely different person. She ate her way from being a marathon runner to someone who literally can't run due to her size.

I still love her but I am not sexually attracted to her.


She can’t run because she is out of shape. I’m 5’8” and 190lbs, and I just ran five miles yesterday.


If that is true and you keep on doing it you will wreck your knees. That's way too much weight for your height.


I’ve been running and doing other forms of intense exercise for 30 years give or take. My knees are okay.


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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Sure if you have a kindergarten education. But if you have an education beyond that, you’ll understand that there are a lot of things that are in play, including cortisol levels, hormonal levels, require drug intakes to treat diseases, sexual abuse, rape victimization, etc.


I'm a DP but you are quite confused. The other "things in play" you're talking about can affect HOW MANY calories someone's body needs or WHY someone is consuming a particular amount of calories. They do not alter the basic fact that eating more calories than you burn is the cause of weight gain. Suppose someone starts "eating their feelings" in response to a trauma. That might be psychologically understandable, and we can sympathize with that person, but if they're eating more than they're burning, they're going to gain weight, and the solution is to eat less. Now, to do that, they might need counseling or therapy--something targeted at their emotional state rather than their physical--but that doesn't change the fact that if they want to lose weight, they're going to have to alter the equation of how much they eat and how much they burn. And it's always easier to reduce consumption than to increase burning.

"I gained weight because I aged". Well, as you aged, your body needed fewer calories to operate. That's normal. If you gained weight, it's because you didn't make a corresponding adjustment to your caloric intake. You need to also eat less as your body slows down.

"I gained weight because I don't have time to exercise." Not really. Exercise is an inefficient and often counterproductive way to lose weight. You can bust your hump on an elliptical for a half hour or skip a snack--same effect on the calorie equation. And if you have bad eating habits--as most overweight people do--then the exercise will just make them hungrier and result in weight GAIN because they won't know how to manage their intake as their need increases.

And so on. If you're not focused on reducing calories in relative to calories out, nothing else will matter for weight loss.



Sure. If you eat less than you burn, then you will lose weight. But you have no way of knowing how much you burn, and all sorts of things affect it, so this isn’t useful information.

Also, I have been a therapist for many years. I can help people manage their lives and relationships and deal with trauma and stop self harming behavior or frequent suicide attempts, but it’s hard to change how people eat with talking. Do you know what can change weight? Concerta. Zyprexa. This is all more biological than people like to admit.

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Hi - I'd like you to get your hormones out of wack, get 2 c-sections and get dinged at work because no one takes oyur seriously anymore.

no, I don't want that, of course, but I do want to not care, because you can BJs yourself with your own paycheck. Despite my challenges, I have gotten bigger raises than you since our kids were born. But you won't be getting alimony. Good luck to you.

Luckily my DH has an IQ above 90 so this is all hypothetical for the OP. Not that my DH might not be getting some on the side but he isn't so low on EQ as to think the OP's grand pronouncements are the way..
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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Sure if you have a kindergarten education. But if you have an education beyond that, you’ll understand that there are a lot of things that are in play, including cortisol levels, hormonal levels, require drug intakes to treat diseases, sexual abuse, rape victimization, etc.


I'm a DP but you are quite confused. The other "things in play" you're talking about can affect HOW MANY calories someone's body needs or WHY someone is consuming a particular amount of calories. They do not alter the basic fact that eating more calories than you burn is the cause of weight gain. Suppose someone starts "eating their feelings" in response to a trauma. That might be psychologically understandable, and we can sympathize with that person, but if they're eating more than they're burning, they're going to gain weight, and the solution is to eat less. Now, to do that, they might need counseling or therapy--something targeted at their emotional state rather than their physical--but that doesn't change the fact that if they want to lose weight, they're going to have to alter the equation of how much they eat and how much they burn. And it's always easier to reduce consumption than to increase burning.

"I gained weight because I aged". Well, as you aged, your body needed fewer calories to operate. That's normal. If you gained weight, it's because you didn't make a corresponding adjustment to your caloric intake. You need to also eat less as your body slows down.

"I gained weight because I don't have time to exercise." Not really. Exercise is an inefficient and often counterproductive way to lose weight. You can bust your hump on an elliptical for a half hour or skip a snack--same effect on the calorie equation. And if you have bad eating habits--as most overweight people do--then the exercise will just make them hungrier and result in weight GAIN because they won't know how to manage their intake as their need increases.

And so on. If you're not focused on reducing calories in relative to calories out, nothing else will matter for weight loss.



Sure. If you eat less than you burn, then you will lose weight. But you have no way of knowing how much you burn, and all sorts of things affect it, so this isn’t useful information.

Also, I have been a therapist for many years. I can help people manage their lives and relationships and deal with trauma and stop self harming behavior or frequent suicide attempts, but it’s hard to change how people eat with talking. Do you know what can change weight? Concerta. Zyprexa. This is all more biological than people like to admit.



Could not disagree more. How you eat is most effectively controlled through the formation of better habits. This is very doable. The reason people don't is that they're not taught that's the answer. Instead, our culture--media, therapists, self-anointed fitness gurus--finds all kinds of other excuses and solutions, which are totally misguided.

To lose weight, you don't have to know your baseline metabolic rate and you don't have to count calories. Here's an approach: figure out something you eat routinely that you think you could do without. Maybe it's that midnight snack. Estimate how many calories it entails. You want to find something that's about 300-400 calories. Then stop eating that for 3-4 weeks and see what happens. I bet you'll start losing weight. As long as the weight is coming off, stick with that; when you stop losing weight again, find another way to shave a few hundred calories off your daily eating, and add that to the reduction for 3-4 weeks, and then see what happens, and repeat.

Now, as for how to stop eating that extra food, there are lots of behavioral things you can do to make it easier. Here's a list of some good ones off the top of my head:
* Don't buy or cook large amounts of food. Acquire as close to the amount you should eat as possible. You're trying to avoid giving yourself the chance to have second or third helpings.
* Relatedly, don't take out more food than you think you should eat. If you're going to eat some crackers, don't put the box next to you. Instead, take 8 or 10 or however many crackers out of the box, put the box away, and go sit somewhere else to eat.
* Don't drink your calories. Don't drink artificially sweetened drinks because they reinforce your desire for sugar. Only water, black coffee, plain tea (no milk).
* Choose foods with no or low added sugar.
* Don't eat while watching tv; don't eat mindlessly.
* Try not to eat alone.
* Try to eat slowly.
* Don't snack at all between dinner and bed.
* Don't ratchet up your exercise level until you've learned to control your eating.
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I'd like to know if OP is still alive.
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Anonymous wrote:We all gain / lose / carry weight in different ways. Our relationships to bring embodied vary. I grew up in a family of disordered eating and because of nurture and nature (?) have gained a lot of weight during two major difficult times in my life - late teens and my 40s. About 70-80 # each time. And then I lost it when my mental / emotional states changed and I was able to change circumstances around me. In my 40s, I am sure my now XH wasn’t “happy” with my weight gain - but I can see now that weight gain was due to lifestyle shifts (pregnancies, desk job, not enough time for myself), and mostly due to my unhappiness in the marriage. My literal protective barrier. Safety blanket. I do feel like “I let myself go” in that I truly lost my sense of self in the marriage and in that relationship. But I have no shame about my body fluctuation - just compassion for how hard it was on me overall and that my coping mechanism was still to be hard on myself and body.

So - ironically re: the OP and others - your spouses weight gain may be a reflection of how they are truly feeling about you and your relationship.



Actually anyone's weight gain is a reflection of consuming more calories than they use for energy. The difference is stored by the body as adipose tissue. It's simple arithmetic. Eat less.


Sure if you have a kindergarten education. But if you have an education beyond that, you’ll understand that there are a lot of things that are in play, including cortisol levels, hormonal levels, require drug intakes to treat diseases, sexual abuse, rape victimization, etc.


I'm a DP but you are quite confused. The other "things in play" you're talking about can affect HOW MANY calories someone's body needs or WHY someone is consuming a particular amount of calories. They do not alter the basic fact that eating more calories than you burn is the cause of weight gain. Suppose someone starts "eating their feelings" in response to a trauma. That might be psychologically understandable, and we can sympathize with that person, but if they're eating more than they're burning, they're going to gain weight, and the solution is to eat less. Now, to do that, they might need counseling or therapy--something targeted at their emotional state rather than their physical--but that doesn't change the fact that if they want to lose weight, they're going to have to alter the equation of how much they eat and how much they burn. And it's always easier to reduce consumption than to increase burning.

"I gained weight because I aged". Well, as you aged, your body needed fewer calories to operate. That's normal. If you gained weight, it's because you didn't make a corresponding adjustment to your caloric intake. You need to also eat less as your body slows down.

"I gained weight because I don't have time to exercise." Not really. Exercise is an inefficient and often counterproductive way to lose weight. You can bust your hump on an elliptical for a half hour or skip a snack--same effect on the calorie equation. And if you have bad eating habits--as most overweight people do--then the exercise will just make them hungrier and result in weight GAIN because they won't know how to manage their intake as their need increases.

And so on. If you're not focused on reducing calories in relative to calories out, nothing else will matter for weight loss.



Sure. If you eat less than you burn, then you will lose weight. But you have no way of knowing how much you burn, and all sorts of things affect it, so this isn’t useful information.

Also, I have been a therapist for many years. I can help people manage their lives and relationships and deal with trauma and stop self harming behavior or frequent suicide attempts, but it’s hard to change how people eat with talking. Do you know what can change weight? Concerta. Zyprexa. This is all more biological than people like to admit.



Could not disagree more. How you eat is most effectively controlled through the formation of better habits. This is very doable. The reason people don't is that they're not taught that's the answer. Instead, our culture--media, therapists, self-anointed fitness gurus--finds all kinds of other excuses and solutions, which are totally misguided.

To lose weight, you don't have to know your baseline metabolic rate and you don't have to count calories. Here's an approach: figure out something you eat routinely that you think you could do without. Maybe it's that midnight snack. Estimate how many calories it entails. You want to find something that's about 300-400 calories. Then stop eating that for 3-4 weeks and see what happens. I bet you'll start losing weight. As long as the weight is coming off, stick with that; when you stop losing weight again, find another way to shave a few hundred calories off your daily eating, and add that to the reduction for 3-4 weeks, and then see what happens, and repeat.

Now, as for how to stop eating that extra food, there are lots of behavioral things you can do to make it easier. Here's a list of some good ones off the top of my head:
* Don't buy or cook large amounts of food. Acquire as close to the amount you should eat as possible. You're trying to avoid giving yourself the chance to have second or third helpings.
* Relatedly, don't take out more food than you think you should eat. If you're going to eat some crackers, don't put the box next to you. Instead, take 8 or 10 or however many crackers out of the box, put the box away, and go sit somewhere else to eat.
* Don't drink your calories. Don't drink artificially sweetened drinks because they reinforce your desire for sugar. Only water, black coffee, plain tea (no milk).
* Choose foods with no or low added sugar.
* Don't eat while watching tv; don't eat mindlessly.
* Try not to eat alone.
* Try to eat slowly.
* Don't snack at all between dinner and bed.
* Don't ratchet up your exercise level until you've learned to control your eating.



Do you have a list like this for how to stop word vomit on the internet?
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