The Diplomat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just started season 2. I think the problem with Hal and her is that they both are and want to be powerful independent people so they are in each others way but love keeps them tethered

I would say the conflict is desire for power [Hal] v responsibility to serve [Kate] and
Moral flexibility [Hal] v rigidity [Kate].

It’s not that Hal wants to do bad things, but he very much wants to be the one doing the good things, and he’s much more open to the ends justifying the means. Meanwhile, Kate may find the prospect of serving as VP somewhat enticing, but she’d really be just as happy contributing to the greater good in whatever capacity flows to her.

I agree with you PP. Good analysis. I don’t understand how she can trust him. Or maybe she is just trying to contain him by staying married? It’s gotta be exhausting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

5. You know a show is way too complicated when you can’t remember any of the names of the characters. And I can’t follow what the PM has done—or allegedly done. It’s a mess.

Maybe you're just used to the lower IQ stuff on Netflix.

[Anonymous]

I watched all the second season yesterday. There is no mention of stink or lack of hygiene. Frankly I don't think Kate looks bad at all for a career diplomat.

The point is that she's not as polished and refined, in both manners and trappings, as how an American ambassador to a wealthy ally nation is pictured to be, and the point is to exaggerate that bit, with the fly away hair, and the pants episode. But please don't think female ambassadors or ambassadors' wives of wealthy nations are always dressed to the nines. They most definitely are not, even when on display!

[Anonymous]

I cancelled Netflix during a lull in watching anything. Is season two worth renewing to watch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cancelled Netflix during a lull in watching anything. Is season two worth renewing to watch?

Definitely NOT.

[Anonymous]

Season 2 is great. I LOVE that Keri looks like a typical civil servant. She’s intelligent, witty, and knows how to work the system. She looks showered. Her hair isn’t coiffed. I’m so sick of the female newscaster look.

[Anonymous]

I don't get how people liked the second season. It felt bureaucratic and wordy without saying much. Plot felt boring yet convoluted and fake. I love spy shows like Homeland, The Americans. This just was nowhere near as good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching?

Rufus is a gem!

I love Keri Russell, but I’m not loving this character. She speaks too fast, is too harsh, and the only emotions this character seems to have make her seem weak and weird (the whole anti-dress and anti-social thing are weird for a diplomat).

And while I loved her wardrobe and hair in both the Americans and Felicity, I don’t get her look in this series at all—especially since her husband is all dolled up.

I love the London setting and the plot. I hope it gets better.

My husband and I are watching it and really love the show.

[Anonymous]

I think this show is great. I couldn't wait for Season 2 and it delivered!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't get how people liked the second season. It felt bureaucratic and wordy without saying much. Plot felt boring yet convoluted and fake. I love spy shows like Homeland, The Americans. This just was nowhere near as good.

It was pretty stiff yet very melodramatic. It's weird because the actors are good. I just don't think the writing is all that remarkable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just started season 2. I think the problem with Hal and her is that they both are and want to be powerful independent people so they are in each others way but love keeps them tethered

I would say the conflict is desire for power [Hal] v responsibility to serve [Kate] and
Moral flexibility [Hal] v rigidity [Kate].

It’s not that Hal wants to do bad things, but he very much wants to be the one doing the good things, and he’s much more open to the ends justifying the means. Meanwhile, Kate may find the prospect of serving as VP somewhat enticing, but she’d really be just as happy contributing to the greater good in whatever capacity flows to her.

I agree with you PP. Good analysis. I don’t understand how she can trust him. Or maybe she is just trying to contain him by staying married? It’s gotta be exhausting

I feel like I can't really say what I'd like to until more people finish this season, but I will say that is an interesting point that I had not considered and I think it is one very interesting lens to look at the relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Season 2 is great. I LOVE that Keri looks like a typical civil servant. She’s intelligent, witty, and knows how to work the system. She looks showered. Her hair isn’t coiffed. I’m so sick of the female newscaster look.

This is intentional ... I'm assuming you are behind a bit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Season 2 is great. I LOVE that Keri looks like a typical civil servant. She’s intelligent, witty, and knows how to work the system. She looks showered. Her hair isn’t coiffed. I’m so sick of the female newscaster look.

This is intentional ... I'm assuming you are behind a bit?

Huh? Plenty of government employees look like her. It would be weird if she was dolled up. It would distract from her background and persona. I don’t get why people are outraged by her appearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cancelled Netflix during a lull in watching anything. Is season two worth renewing to watch?

$14 for season 2 (6 episodes) and a season 1 rewatch (8 eps). Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Season 2 is great. I LOVE that Keri looks like a typical civil servant. She’s intelligent, witty, and knows how to work the system. She looks showered. Her hair isn’t coiffed. I’m so sick of the female newscaster look.

This is intentional ... I'm assuming you are behind a bit?

Huh? Plenty of government employees look like her. It would be weird if she was dolled up. It would distract from her background and persona. I don’t get why people are outraged by her appearance.

Just in the context of the show, it’s weird that every other character is polished/Hollywood and she’s the only one who looks normal. But I don’t think costumers are necessarily the smartest in the world.