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Anonymous wrote:I am on a number of foreign service groups in which this show is being 10000% eviscerated for being so unrealistic.


Not surprising.

Does anyone really believe they fly ambassadors into emergency Oval Office meetings to discuss foreign affairs and strategy related to countries they aren’t remotely involved with?

Plus: no woman is walking into the White House without being all dolled up. That’s precisely the time to upgrade your pantsuit to a shift dress and blazer—plus killer heels and a bold lip with a sleek blowout.

^^^
That’s our power move.
Anonymous
Anyone else bothered by the fact Kate acts like she wants her husband to butt out because she doesn’t need him yet she routinely pulls him in for strategic guidance and sex only to push him away again and again? And she seemingly wants to do the same with her British counterpart?

It’s annoying. She’s not the badass she was in The Americans. She more like a poseur.
Anonymous
Rufus better be back for the second season if I’m not watching.
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Anonymous wrote:Au contraire! These are all the things I like about her character. She’s supposed to be serious and dedicated and sincere. And come on, wouldn’t you be a little put out if you thought you were going to do one job and then got told to do a totally different one?


You can be serious and still wash your hair and not fall apart when you need to put on a show in order to do your job.

As someone who works in Washington, I just don’t find this character believable. Even the most serious women wear lipstick.

Separately, I can’t help but feel like The Night Agent had better casting than this for the supporting characters. Rufus and Keri are terrific, but everyone else seems less interesting than their counterparts in shows like The Night Agent, The Recruit, etc. Weird.


Plenty of "serious" (and successful) women don't wear makeup, stylish hair or clothes, etc.


Show me a frumpy ambassador without makeup. I’ll wait.

Plus, fat chance anyone is swooning over Kate with her clean face and greasy unbrushed hair and sweaty pits that have become a bizarre plot line.



Because the vast majority of ambassadors are wealthy donors, not boots-on-the-ground policy wonks. The whole point is that she is different from the norm.
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Anonymous wrote:Au contraire! These are all the things I like about her character. She’s supposed to be serious and dedicated and sincere. And come on, wouldn’t you be a little put out if you thought you were going to do one job and then got told to do a totally different one?


You can be serious and still wash your hair and not fall apart when you need to put on a show in order to do your job.

As someone who works in Washington, I just don’t find this character believable. Even the most serious women wear lipstick.

Separately, I can’t help but feel like The Night Agent had better casting than this for the supporting characters. Rufus and Keri are terrific, but everyone else seems less interesting than their counterparts in shows like The Night Agent, The Recruit, etc. Weird.


Plenty of "serious" (and successful) women don't wear makeup, stylish hair or clothes, etc.


Show me a frumpy ambassador without makeup. I’ll wait.

Plus, fat chance anyone is swooning over Kate with her clean face and greasy unbrushed hair and sweaty pits that have become a bizarre plot line.



Because the vast majority of ambassadors are wealthy donors, not boots-on-the-ground policy wonks. The whole point is that she is different from the norm.



And she's absolutely younger and hotter than most, even with unbrushed hair etc.
Anonymous
This show is depressing so far because I know how actually incompetent everyone is doing these jobs right now. I wish we had someone who could make good decisions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am on a number of foreign service groups in which this show is being 10000% eviscerated for being so unrealistic.


Totally unrealistic! But, whatever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am on a number of foreign service groups in which this show is being 10000% eviscerated for being so unrealistic.

Doesn’t every profession say this about TV? Every lawyer, every doctor, every writer, every reporter …. “soooo unrealistic”
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am on a number of foreign service groups in which this show is being 10000% eviscerated for being so unrealistic.


Not surprising.

Does anyone really believe they fly ambassadors into emergency Oval Office meetings to discuss foreign affairs and strategy related to countries they aren’t remotely involved with?

Plus: no woman is walking into the White House without being all dolled up. That’s precisely the time to upgrade your pantsuit to a shift dress and blazer—plus killer heels and a bold lip with a sleek blowout.

^^^
That’s our power move.


State person here. Correct on first point, kinda laughable on second. Career officers aren’t all wearing heels with blowouts.
Anonymous
I'm mostly liking it. I get she's supposed to look unkempt, but her hair is SO greasy that it's making me uncomfortable.
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Anonymous wrote:I am on a number of foreign service groups in which this show is being 10000% eviscerated for being so unrealistic.


Not surprising.

Does anyone really believe they fly ambassadors into emergency Oval Office meetings to discuss foreign affairs and strategy related to countries they aren’t remotely involved with?

Plus: no woman is walking into the White House without being all dolled up. That’s precisely the time to upgrade your pantsuit to a shift dress and blazer—plus killer heels and a bold lip with a sleek blowout.

^^^
That’s our power move.


State person here. Correct on first point, kinda laughable on second. Career officers aren’t all wearing heels with blowouts.


How about ambassadors?

I’m just a dc policywonk, but I know I step it up when I’m going to the White House, the Hill, or anywhere I’m meeting with people.

I’d never go outside my house with greasy hair.
Anonymous
You women commenting are the worst. What a bunch of misogynists you all are judging a woman on her looks not her talent!

Horrible horrible commenters you are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You women commenting are the worst. What a bunch of misogynists you all are judging a woman on her looks not her talent!

Horrible horrible commenters you are.


I agree! And, who cares if it is not like the real world. It is a tv show for God's sake and not a documentary. Like any other field, foreign service professionals , including Ambassadors, come in all shapes and sizes. These sexist arguments about women's looks remind me of when Hillary was Sec. of State + later running for Pres..all people could talk were her clothes, hair,etc. Yet, they thought nothing of electing fatso Trump. Double - standard that even women buy into.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You women commenting are the worst. What a bunch of misogynists you all are judging a woman on her looks not her talent!

Horrible horrible commenters you are.


We are commenting on a tv show that cast a gorgeous woman who is literally known for her hair as an ugly duckling “in need of a haircut” as the plot line with styling with greasy unbrushed hair, no makeup, and multiple scenes where they fixate on her armpits and smell.

We are not commenting on a real person.

Geez.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You women commenting are the worst. What a bunch of misogynists you all are judging a woman on her looks not her talent!

Horrible horrible commenters you are.

Yep...and funnily enough, that's the point of this ambassador character! It's like she was proven right.
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