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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

why are you assuming they dont?

And why are you assuming the girls that look like Reese don’t admire Clark.

Can we go back to you not liking the “look at me” attitude for Reese but you think it’s OK for Clark. And can you explain why you think it’s OK for Clark to say she wants girls that look like her to look up to her but that’s not OK for Reese?

OMG no one said any of this.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but the posters who are super upset about Angel Reese would not give one single shit about this behavior if the athlete was white. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, so cut the crap.

And you wouldn’t be defending Angel’s actions if she were white either. You know it, I know it.

Sure I would. Trash talk is the norm for sports at this level, so if you don’t like it you can clutch your pearls elsewhere 😘

If it’s the norm, then why was Angel allowed to be so triggered by Clark’s actions in another game?

This makes absolutely no sense, lol.

Clark did the Cena move in another game when she was winning, and Reese threw it back in her face when they beat her. It’s trash talk. That’s what trash talk is.

The difference being clarke did it toward her bench for a few seconds, while Angel followed her around for 20 seconds at end if game. Situation matters

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but the posters who are super upset about Angel Reese would not give one single shit about this behavior if the athlete was white. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, so cut the crap.

And you wouldn’t be defending Angel’s actions if she were white either. You know it, I know it.

Sure I would. Trash talk is the norm for sports at this level, so if you don’t like it you can clutch your pearls elsewhere 😘

If it’s the norm, then why was Angel allowed to be so triggered by Clark’s actions in another game?

This makes absolutely no sense, lol.

Clark did the Cena move in another game when she was winning, and Reese threw it back in her face when they beat her. It’s trash talk. That’s what trash talk is.

The difference being clarke did it toward her bench for a few seconds, while Angel followed her around for 20 seconds at end if game. Situation matters

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Clark has been doing similar ALL YEAR. You can't "iT's DiFfErEnT" your way around this. Did you see the Diana Taurasi examples upthread or are you going to conveniently ignore those as well?

If you're hellbent on trying to parse the difference, ask yourself why.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

DP. If it is the same person making a lot of these posts, yes, they are so angry they have lost all reason and are projecting a whole lot of bs on other people. They need to talk to their therapist.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

You are so blind it's not even funny. You only view "race" as identity politics, but gender is all fine b/c your girl Caitlin engages in it.

Take off your blinders and ask yourself why one kind of "identity politics" bothers you so much, but another kind doesn't even register.

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None of these trash-talking athletes, regardless of sex, race, etc., are good role models.

Most elite athletes are a-hats, because to get to that level, you generally have an over-the-top amount of self-confidence and they feel they can do or say whatever they want without repercussions.

It is sad that our society is so far gone that we think mean, unsportsman-like people are role models just because they can put a ball in a hoop or a ball in the goal or whatever.

There are much better ways to be a role model and to be a strong woman. Neither of these athletes embody that. They are just braying jerks.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

DP. If it is the same person making a lot of these posts, yes, they are so angry they have lost all reason and are projecting a whole lot of bs on other people. They need to talk to their therapist.

You have addressed nothing. Ain't nobody angry except the people freakin out that Angel Reese had the temerity to do what countless competitive athletes have done before her.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

You are so blind it's not even funny. You only view "race" as identity politics, but gender is all fine b/c your girl Caitlin engages in it.

Take off your blinders and ask yourself why one kind of "identity politics" bothers you so much, but another kind doesn't even register.

Go for a walk. Seriously, you are just angry at this point and you're not listening to anyone at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

DP. If it is the same person making a lot of these posts, yes, they are so angry they have lost all reason and are projecting a whole lot of bs on other people. They need to talk to their therapist.

You have addressed nothing. Ain't nobody angry except the people freakin out that Angel Reese had the temerity to do what countless competitive athletes have done before her.

I'm addressing you. You aren't capable of having a discussion anymore. You're just lashing out at internet strangers. Buh-bye.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

You are so blind it's not even funny. You only view "race" as identity politics, but gender is all fine b/c your girl Caitlin engages in it.

Take off your blinders and ask yourself why one kind of "identity politics" bothers you so much, but another kind doesn't even register.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

You are so blind it's not even funny. You only view "race" as identity politics, but gender is all fine b/c your girl Caitlin engages in it.

Take off your blinders and ask yourself why one kind of "identity politics" bothers you so much, but another kind doesn't even register.

Go for a walk. Seriously, you are just angry at this point and you're not listening to anyone at this point.

I'm totally fine. Make a convincing or compelling point. Nobody is angry.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

You are so blind it's not even funny. You only view "race" as identity politics, but gender is all fine b/c your girl Caitlin engages in it.

Take off your blinders and ask yourself why one kind of "identity politics" bothers you so much, but another kind doesn't even register.

Huh?

Amazing. You just don't see it. Makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill Biden has suggested that the White House should invite both the LSU and Iowa teams to the White House to celebrate their accomplishments and Angel Reese responded by Tweeting that it was "A JOKE" with emojis mocking Biden's suggestion.

I'm sorry that she's embarrassing the hell out of y'all when you ought to be congratulating her, and that you still feel obligated to defend her, but this girl is just flat-out trash with zero class.

WTF? Why would both teams be invited? Do they invite both men’s teams after their championship? Both Super Bowl teams? Both World Series teams? NO THEY DON’T.

She’s right, it is a joke. LSU is the champ, only they should be invited. This isn’t the flex Jill Biden thinks it is. Every body doesn’t need a participation trophy. Iowa didn’t win, they stay home.

It is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest both teams.

Without Clark and the interest the Iowa team generated about 1/3 the number of viewers would have watched this final.

Of course Iowa would turn down the invitation and not give the low-class LSU team another opportunity to mug and pout and generally make asses of themselves. No one needed Reese to weigh on yet again, but that stupid clown of course has no filter, whether before, during, or after the game.

The rest of the world sees in Reese a young woman clearly and correctly pointing out double standards and representing the majority of players and real fans. Funny how she lives in your head rent free. Stay mad.

Hardly. Her reputation already sucked but now she’s tarnished her team’s victory as well. DCUM predictably makes excuses but she’s been widely ridiculed and condemned in sports circles.

+1

Reese is getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere except DCUM. Did she also not shake hands? Maybe some racists were spreading that rumor around.

No she isn't. A ton of prominent athletes have come out in support of her. You can keep your Keith Olberman and Dave Portnoy

Dave Portnoy far better reflects the views of sports fans across the country than DCUM ninnies. Y’all can defend Reese but you won’t actually pay money to watch her play in the future because she brings nothing new to the game.

No he doesn't. A TON of athletes have come out in support of her saying trash talk is just part of the game and if you dish it out, you need to be able to take it. Even Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi said it on their live broadcast. A bunch of real sports fans are actually bewildered that the media is making such a huge deal out of this. Real ballers are used to trash talk. If they want to clap back at Angel beat her and shut her up next time.

If this is the case, then why did Reesie make such a big deal out of Clark’s conduct toward someone on another team? Isn’t that just typical in game trash talk? Why can’t Clark do it too then? Because white girls are not allowed to do such a thing against a black player? Actually this was just Reese showing her own racism.

This has been addressed in this thread. Angel was making a bigger point about the differential treatment. Monica Cziznano on Iowa can throw her elbows and shoulders around and she's playing hard, but when LSU and SC play tough defense it's a "bar fight" or they're "thugs" or "hood rats". Caitlin and Hailey always gets the benefit of the doubt for their trash talk, flopping and other antics, yet Angel and players from similar backgrounds are pilloried.

She is making a point about the benefit of the doubt and outsized attention given to Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers, Hailey Van Lith, Cameron Brink, the Cavinder Twins etc. Similarly excellent black players do not get the same media spotlight, attention and hype.

To you that waive Caitlin did to Raven Johnson was a cute little thing or even "savage!". To the SEC girls, it was symbolic of how they have been similarly and repeatedly dismissed, ignored, overlooked and undervalued throughout their entire basketball careers. What was the refrain they kept repeating? Put some respect on my name! They were all giving Caitlin her due as a great player, and they just want it for themselves too.

I bet you didn't blink twice when Maria Sharapova outlearned Serena Williams in endorsements for much of their careers despite Williams' absolute dominance in that "rivalry".

Like she said, it was bigger than her.

Overlooked how? They are privileged to play Division 1 basketball and get full ride tuition. Give me a break. Since when have black women been “dismissed, overlooked, and ignored” in college basketball? Black people are always victims you know.

Translation: be happy with the little crumbs we're throwing you, little girl.

It's been clear that you don't follow and are not familiar with women's basketball. You just have your little agenda.

Oh shut up. Since when are all of these outstanding opportunities that thousands of girls would kill for, on addition to lucrative NIL contracts, “little crumbs?”

Know your place, Angel!

Angel gets a scholarship and NIL money for throwing a ball in a hoop. What do you want to do, give her a Senate seat?

DP. And all these people upthread going on about her social media presence and talk of endorsements. You can't have it both ways. She is using her notoriety to make money. Tale as old as time and not limited to any one race. Give us a break.

She had to create her notoriety through something that goes beyond her basketball excellence. It was just assumed or handed to her or bolstered through outsized media attention that others always seem to get. You think they'll be throwing Aneesah Morrow a ton of NIL deals? You ever even heard of her?

Yet the Cavinder twins are plastered everywhere.

"This is for all the girls that look like me"

So sick of the “look like me” trope. If other groups say that, they are branded as racists.

Does this make you sick too?

Thanks to that accessibility, Clark has become one of the most recognizable faces in women's basketball over the last three years. To her, it's awesome to know that there are millions of little girls around the country who look to her to see what they have the potential to become.

“I’m all about growing the women’s game,” Clark said after toppling Indiana in the regular season finale last month, “and I’m glad I’ve given something that little girls can scream about at the top of their lungs. I can imagine when I was younger, I was doing the exact same thing watching on TV. It’s pretty fun.”

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2023/03/23/iowa-womens-basketball-caitlin-clark-best-quotes-season-ncaa-tournament-march-madness/70038413007/

So now white girls aren’t allowed to be the face of anything?

Either you hate the “look at me” trope for both girls, or you like it or both girls. If you like it for one girl, but not the other, can you explain that?

Chasing someone around the court after winning the championship is not what Clark did, so no, they are not the same thing. Trying to say they are the same thing says a lot about you, and it is not good.

Did Reese also refuse to shake hands?

You're changing your tune. First you had a problem with the "look like me" trope when Angel said it, but for Caitlin it's not a problem.

Caitlin is a champion and inspiration for little girls to look up to, but screw those little girls that look like Angel.

We see you...

But why can’t girls that look like Reese also admire players like Clark in addition to the many black players who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?

You keep exposing yourself.

But why can't girls that look like Caitlin also admire players like Lebron James and Luca Doncic in addition to the many women who excel at the sport, and vice versa? Does absolutely everything have to resort to identity?!?

You are a strange one. I did say that. You are the one who is arguing that black girls will be “screwed” if players like Clark are exalted. Some of us admire players who are a different race than we are.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's ok for both of them to "look like me" or none of them. Either it's ok for both of them to talk trash, as high level athletes are wont to do, or neither of them.

If you are hellbent on splicing differences, ask yourself why that is and what is motivating it?

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. My only point was that you can admire people even if they aren’t the same race as you. For example, my favorite NBA players are a different race than I am. Why do you have such a problem with this notion? Are you so wrapped up in identity politics that you have lost all reason? Sheesh.

You are so blind it's not even funny. You only view "race" as identity politics, but gender is all fine b/c your girl Caitlin engages in it.

Take off your blinders and ask yourself why one kind of "identity politics" bothers you so much, but another kind doesn't even register.

Huh?

Amazing. You just don't see it. Makes sense.

I’m out too. Have a nice day!