Tired of Managing Millenials

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you should be really careful here. You've provided a LOT of specific detail.

Why? OP is a terrible boss and it'd be great for her HR to know that she sucks at management and turns to the internet to solve simply problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you should be really careful here. You've provided a LOT of specific detail.

Why? OP is a terrible boss and it'd be great for her HR to know that she sucks at management and turns to the internet to solve simply problems.

Hahaha. Fair...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of working for jerks.

And how does a millennial have a hs graduate? I'm 36 and am an older millennial.

She prob had her kid right after she graduated from college. The oldest millennials are 38. She would have had her kid at 20 or 21

No, the oldest millennials turn 42 this year. Millennial is ppl born between years 1981-1996. So someone could’ve had their kid at 24 and have a kid graduating high school this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WHY does she need a week off for a high school graduation?

Are you really this dense? This isn't the military. She didn't sign an enlistment contract. She using her PTO, which is an important component of her compensation. Start playing the game of telling employees what is and isn't worthy of their PTP and see how quickly they're gone.

I just don't understand how some of you posters can really be this bad at managing.

Employees have a right to use their PTO. But employers have a right to approve or not approve the taking of that PTO at a particular time. This is typically in the employee handbook or other documentation around benefits. Didn't read the whole thread, but it seems like both employees failed to communicate properly with their manager. If the manager can't have 2 employees out for the whole week, and both employees have events during that week, then they should work it out and come up with a plan that works for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WHY does she need a week off for a high school graduation?

Are you really this dense? This isn't the military. She didn't sign an enlistment contract. She using her PTO, which is an important component of her compensation. Start playing the game of telling employees what is and isn't worthy of their PTP and see how quickly they're gone.

I just don't understand how some of you posters can really be this bad at managing.

Employees have a right to use their PTO. But employers have a right to approve or not approve the taking of that PTO at a particular time. This is typically in the employee handbook or other documentation around benefits. Didn't read the whole thread, but it seems like both employees failed to communicate properly with their manager. If the manager can't have 2 employees out for the whole week, and both employees have events during that week, then they should work it out and come up with a plan that works for everyone.

Read the entire thread first. Then come back and comment. You've missed a lot of context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have two this week who are throwing fits b/c they both asked for the same week off (one for a wedding and the other for her son’s HS graduation). The former went and booked tickets even before asking for the time off. She announced to me today that she will shift her workload during that time to another employee, also without checking with me. I’ve told the two of them to work it out or I will make an executive decision neither will like. We are a small office and May will be very busy. I cannot have two employees out the same week. The fact that you bought tickets to travel before getting approved leave is not my problem. Ditto that your son’s graduation is also that week.

You should be hiring GenX ers. We have a better work ethic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who needs a week off for a wedding?

Entitled people

[Anonymous]

Who needs a week off for a high school graduation? A week for a wedding makes way more sense if you have to travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who needs a week off for a high school graduation? A week for a wedding makes way more sense if you have to travel.

Family comes into town. The family goes on vacation to celebrate the graduation.

I know, your family sucked and they didn’t give a shit when you graduated. But some of us have loving families where it’s common to celebrate your child’s successes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have two this week who are throwing fits b/c they both asked for the same week off (one for a wedding and the other for her son’s HS graduation). The former went and booked tickets even before asking for the time off. She announced to me today that she will shift her workload during that time to another employee, also without checking with me. I’ve told the two of them to work it out or I will make an executive decision neither will like. We are a small office and May will be very busy. I cannot have two employees out the same week. The fact that you bought tickets to travel before getting approved leave is not my problem. Ditto that your son’s graduation is also that week.

You should be hiring GenX ers. We have a better work ethic

Ah no. We are old now. See ageism thread. Really sucks that boomers would just never retire, never let us move up and never experienced ageism because they'd just yell at us to fix the doohickey email thing. And now the younger gens have cool factor, hip factor and are sought after.

Whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two this week who are throwing fits b/c they both asked for the same week off (one for a wedding and the other for her son’s HS graduation). The former went and booked tickets even before asking for the time off. She announced to me today that she will shift her workload during that time to another employee, also without checking with me. I’ve told the two of them to work it out or I will make an executive decision neither will like. We are a small office and May will be very busy. I cannot have two employees out the same week. The fact that you bought tickets to travel before getting approved leave is not my problem. Ditto that your son’s graduation is also that week.

You should be hiring GenX ers. We have a better work ethic

Ah no. We are old now. See ageism thread. Really sucks that boomers would just never retire, never let us move up and never experienced ageism because they'd just yell at us to fix the doohickey email thing. And now the younger gens have cool factor, hip factor and are sought after.

Whatever.

Don't worry, we old millennials are being replaced by Gen Z as the new hip thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two this week who are throwing fits b/c they both asked for the same week off (one for a wedding and the other for her son’s HS graduation). The former went and booked tickets even before asking for the time off. She announced to me today that she will shift her workload during that time to another employee, also without checking with me. I’ve told the two of them to work it out or I will make an executive decision neither will like. We are a small office and May will be very busy. I cannot have two employees out the same week. The fact that you bought tickets to travel before getting approved leave is not my problem. Ditto that your son’s graduation is also that week.

You should be hiring GenX ers. We have a better work ethic

Ah no. We are old now. See ageism thread. Really sucks that boomers would just never retire, never let us move up and never experienced ageism because they'd just yell at us to fix the doohickey email thing. And now the younger gens have cool factor, hip factor and are sought after.

Whatever.

Luckily in my field it seems like the Boomer C-Suite folks have finally had enough and are moving on. It’s time.

As to the rest of the thread, boy am I glad to never have had to deal with this. It’s my responsibility to make sure my work gets done. Which means I can schedule my leave whenever I need it. And that’s how it should be

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two this week who are throwing fits b/c they both asked for the same week off (one for a wedding and the other for her son’s HS graduation). The former went and booked tickets even before asking for the time off. She announced to me today that she will shift her workload during that time to another employee, also without checking with me. I’ve told the two of them to work it out or I will make an executive decision neither will like. We are a small office and May will be very busy. I cannot have two employees out the same week. The fact that you bought tickets to travel before getting approved leave is not my problem. Ditto that your son’s graduation is also that week.

You should be hiring GenX ers. We have a better work ethic

Ah no. We are old now. See ageism thread. Really sucks that boomers would just never retire, never let us move up and never experienced ageism because they'd just yell at us to fix the doohickey email thing. And now the younger gens have cool factor, hip factor and are sought after.

Whatever.

Don't worry, we old millennials are being replaced by Gen Z as the new hip thing.

And Gen-Z does not put up with ish. Whereas millennials will push, they back down. Gen Z does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you should be really careful here. You've provided a LOT of specific detail.

It's on trailing houses now, everyone will figure it out soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does someone need a WEEK off for a graduation? I can see three days, tops.

idk maybe because it’s their pto and they can take as much of it as they want because their job isn’t their entire life.