Woodward Boundary Study discussion at next BoE meeting

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Anonymous wrote:Holy shit. As a Whitman alumni, I had to read that twice. Never thought I'd see the day where Whitman gets put on the redistricting table.

long overdue

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy shit. As a Whitman alumni, I had to read that twice. Never thought I'd see the day where Whitman gets put on the redistricting table.

long overdue

Whitman alum PP here, 100% agreed. I did not benefit from attending such a segregated school at all. I hope that MCPS does this right and doesn't give into parent pressure. I am also really worried about all the nasty comments that will come out of some parents' mouths about kids who go to some of these other schools. Those kids and parents don't need to hear that. MCPS should shut down any comment about "property values" or "undesirable schools" immediately and shouldn't try to reason with people like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy shit. As a Whitman alumni, I had to read that twice. Never thought I'd see the day where Whitman gets put on the redistricting table.

long overdue

Whitman alum PP here, 100% agreed. I did not benefit from attending such a segregated school at all. I hope that MCPS does this right and doesn't give into parent pressure. I am also really worried about all the nasty comments that will come out of some parents' mouths about kids who go to some of these other schools. Those kids and parents don't need to hear that. MCPS should shut down any comment about "property values" or "undesirable schools" immediately and shouldn't try to reason with people like that.

I think that would be great, but I also don't think it's realistically possible for MCPS to improve diversity at these schools significantly. However, I do think they need to make some adjustments to all boundaries to ensure better resource utilization and address overcrowding.

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Edges of BCC and Whitman are in the mix for the Woodward HS Boundary Study

Churchill will be in the mix for the Crown HS Boundary Study

If you are close enough to walk, and aren't on the edge of the current Whitman boundary, your children likely won't be reassigned

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

Hope you are right.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

Not sure what you're smoking, but MCPS goes to court constantly. They wouldn't bad an eyelash over this, and it would be interesting to hear the wealthy parents try to justify their racism.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

MCPS has done a bunch of things illegally, most especially not following their own policies and being nontransparent about a lot of crap. They've gone through tons of FOIAs and the stuff that have been discovered is unreal. But the issue is that MCPS spends a TON of money on lawyers and ultimately those who sue them eventually run out of money to keep fighting.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

MCPS has done a bunch of things illegally, most especially not following their own policies and being nontransparent about a lot of crap. They've gone through tons of FOIAs and the stuff that have been discovered is unreal. But the issue is that MCPS spends a TON of money on lawyers and ultimately those who sue them eventually run out of money to keep fighting.

There's nothing illegal about MCPS changing its school boundaries. Anyone who tries to sue because of this is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

MCPS has done a bunch of things illegally, most especially not following their own policies and being nontransparent about a lot of crap. They've gone through tons of FOIAs and the stuff that have been discovered is unreal. But the issue is that MCPS spends a TON of money on lawyers and ultimately those who sue them eventually run out of money to keep fighting.

There's nothing illegal about MCPS changing its school boundaries. Anyone who tries to sue because of this is ridiculous.

No one has ever sued MCPS for changing boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

MCPS has done a bunch of things illegally, most especially not following their own policies and being nontransparent about a lot of crap. They've gone through tons of FOIAs and the stuff that have been discovered is unreal. But the issue is that MCPS spends a TON of money on lawyers and ultimately those who sue them eventually run out of money to keep fighting.

There's nothing illegal about MCPS changing its school boundaries. Anyone who tries to sue because of this is ridiculous.

No one has ever sued MCPS for changing boundaries.

Actually, they have (though this is a different cluster than the ones mentioned here): https://moco360.media/2020/05/11/lawsuit-alleges-mcps-boundary-changes-part-of-nationwide-racial-equity-push/

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

MCPS has done a bunch of things illegally, most especially not following their own policies and being nontransparent about a lot of crap. They've gone through tons of FOIAs and the stuff that have been discovered is unreal. But the issue is that MCPS spends a TON of money on lawyers and ultimately those who sue them eventually run out of money to keep fighting.

There's nothing illegal about MCPS changing its school boundaries. Anyone who tries to sue because of this is ridiculous.

No one has ever sued MCPS for changing boundaries.

Actually, they have (though this is a different cluster than the ones mentioned here): https://moco360.media/2020/05/11/lawsuit-alleges-mcps-boundary-changes-part-of-nationwide-racial-equity-push/

But nothing came of it. And also, the lawsuit was not about really redrawing boundaries for diversity but about the process - the behind the scenes comment, violating the Open Meetings Act.

What basis would WW parents have for the lawsuit?

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

And what exactly are their lawyers going to do? It isn't illegal to redistrict those schools, and those parents may have purchased homes zoned for those schools at the time, but they did not purchase admission those schools themselves as they are public schools, not private schools.

The lawyers won't have any skin in the argument, especially because all counties in Maryland are under a lot of pressure to redistrict schools right now. The state isn't going to hand over more money for new school construction or expansion until seats are filled. The lawyers are going to lose, just like they did a few years ago when it came to the lawsuit against magnet programs lol.

They may not win in court but it wouldn’t get that far. The cost of fighting litigation would be too high for the county. It will be cheaper and easier just to give in to the parents fighting them and abandon any rezoning plan they put forth. I may be wrong and the county/MCPS leaders will have more backbone than I give them credit for. I hope I am.

It's not cheaper and easier to give into the parents, because if MCPS makes the wrong decisions, then they lose millions in revenue from the state for new school construction and school expansion. And no, they won't give in. The Clarksburg parents tried to sue, and they still lost and got redistricted lol. The magnet parents from these same clusters tried to sue, and they lost. It doesn't cost a lot of money to shut down, because nothing illegal is going on.

MCPS has done a bunch of things illegally, most especially not following their own policies and being nontransparent about a lot of crap. They've gone through tons of FOIAs and the stuff that have been discovered is unreal. But the issue is that MCPS spends a TON of money on lawyers and ultimately those who sue them eventually run out of money to keep fighting.

There's nothing illegal about MCPS changing its school boundaries. Anyone who tries to sue because of this is ridiculous.

No one has ever sued MCPS for changing boundaries.

Actually, they have (though this is a different cluster than the ones mentioned here): https://moco360.media/2020/05/11/lawsuit-alleges-mcps-boundary-changes-part-of-nationwide-racial-equity-push/

No it wasn't about changing boundaries. It was the process and how it violated policies.