Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

What happened to 'you are compared against other kids in your school and not across schools' or is that limited to richsplaining to public school kids why they didn't get into UVA although they had a 4.4/1600? Does that not apply to your special snowflake because they went to the magical 'big three'? Do you expect all colleges to take everyone that applies from THE 'big three'? Some sort of rich person grifty expectation, perhaps.

A 'B' is still a 'B'.

Sorry but not really. A “B” from Sidwell or STA is simply different than a B from Quince Orchard HS. Qualitatively.
And the good colleges know it. I’ve seen many, many examples of even C+ kids from top privates go on to
Mid-level LACs and completely slay it academically. Then they end up in top Med, law, b-schools etc.

+1. The so-called As from many public high schools will eventually catch up with you.

[Anonymous]

This is right. After learning about MoCo grading on here, I don't think anyone can argue that a B from Whitman is the same as a B from Sidwell. If you get an 89.5 in one quarter you get an A for the semester?! Definitely not how it works in a rigorous private school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

What happened to 'you are compared against other kids in your school and not across schools' or is that limited to richsplaining to public school kids why they didn't get into UVA although they had a 4.4/1600? Does that not apply to your special snowflake because they went to the magical 'big three'? Do you expect all colleges to take everyone that applies from THE 'big three'? Some sort of rich person grifty expectation, perhaps.

A 'B' is still a 'B'.

Sorry but not really. A “B” from Sidwell or STA is simply different than a B from Quince Orchard HS. Qualitatively.
And the good colleges know it. I’ve seen many, many examples of even C+ kids from top privates go on to
Mid-level LACs and completely slay it academically. Then they end up in top Med, law, b-schools etc.

[Anonymous]

I can't get over the idea that anyone even considers Wake a top school - I still think of it as just a basketball school!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From our Big 3 many of the B students went to UMiami, Tulane, Northeastern, Colgate, Colby.

Literally not possible at any of these schools.

[Anonymous]

What is your experience with top private schools? They feed into these colleges through ED.

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Anonymous wrote:From our Big 3 many of the B students went to UMiami, Tulane, Northeastern, Colgate, Colby.

Literally not possible at any of these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which do you think is higher tier?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

hamilton acceptance rate 11%. Lehigh 30% and guessing wake over 20% so you tell me

[Anonymous]

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Amherst 3
Arizona State
Bates
Boston College 2
Brigham Young
Berkeley
Chicago 11
Claremont McKenna
Colby
Colgate
Cornell 2
Dartmouth 2
Davidson
Duke 2
Elizabeth City State (Sports)
Emory
Florida
Grinnell
Hamilton 2
Harvard 2
Howard
Macalester
Morehouse 2
Mt St. Mary's (Sports)
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Penn
Penn State
Pomona
Princeton 2
Richmond
St. Andrews
Sewanee (Sports)
USC
SMU
Syracuse
Tulane
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt
UVA 3
Wake Forest 2
Wesleyan 2
Whittier
William and Mary
Wisconsin 2
Yale 5

This list is STA. I would like to see it absent ALL athletic recruits, not just two that PP clearly deemed to be subpar schools (which is not true). In any event, the average GPA last year was about an 88, so a B+. Straight B is 84 or 85, and I know students in 2023 are not getting into Tulane/Wisconsin/Hamilton, or Wake Forest/Bowdoin, etc. with a B average, even with 1500 SAT/34 ACT.

My B kid, from a MoCo public school, got into a school on that tier
ED in December. If I had to guess the reason: High testing (1530/35), 10 APs, ED, Full pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin
Bates
Tulane
Hamilton

Nobody’s getting into two lane with a B average unless it’s under a sports scholarship.

two lane? i like you. let's be friends

Well I like you too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which do you think is higher tier?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We aren’t talking about any B students, we are talking about kids coming from academically rigorous schools known to have grade deflation. SLACs in particular are very familiar with these schools and admit their students. People saying no way just aren’t familiar with the admission patterns from those schools.

I agree. And not only Big 3, but also B kids from the top MoCo publics (Whitman, Churchill, WJ etc) who have 1450+ SAT / 33+ ACT and are ED /full pay.
They consistently get into the Bates/Hamilton/Colby/Wake/Lehigh/Bucknell tier.

hamilton and wake are not the same tier

hamilton acceptance rate 11%. Lehigh 30% and guessing wake over 20% so you tell me

Wake was 20 percent last year, and will be significantly lower this year.

It’s hard to compare Slacs to bigger universities as slacs are not as popular in this moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ITA. My 3.5 GPA dc got into NEU in the EA round and did not submit scores. Also accepted at UVM with merit.

Anonymous wrote:I get the sense there are one or two posters accounting for the majority of the negative posts. At our school, the B students are still getting into Tulane, NE, and VM ED, as well as into a number of well respected slacs (I have kids at 2 different private schools). If anything, there are more early acceptances than last year, because counselors really encouraged early applications.

You are just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Amherst 3
Arizona State
Bates
Boston College 2
Brigham Young
Berkeley
Chicago 11
Claremont McKenna
Colby
Colgate
Cornell 2
Dartmouth 2
Davidson
Duke 2
Elizabeth City State (Sports)
Emory
Florida
Grinnell
Hamilton 2
Harvard 2
Howard
Macalester
Morehouse 2
Mt St. Mary's (Sports)
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Penn
Penn State
Pomona
Princeton 2
Richmond
St. Andrews
Sewanee (Sports)
USC
SMU
Syracuse
Tulane
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt
UVA 3
Wake Forest 2
Wesleyan 2
Whittier
William and Mary
Wisconsin 2
Yale 5

This list is STA. I would like to see it absent ALL athletic recruits, not just two that PP clearly deemed to be subpar schools (which is not true). In any event, the average GPA last year was about an 88, so a B+. Straight B is 84 or 85, and I know students in 2023 are not getting into Tulane/Wisconsin/Hamilton, or Wake Forest/Bowdoin, etc. with a B average, even with 1500 SAT/34 ACT.

My B kid, from a MoCo public school, got into a school on that tier
ED in December. If I had to guess the reason: High testing (1530/35), 10 APs, ED, Full pay.

100% why

[Anonymous]

My B kid, from a MoCo public school, got into a school on that tier
ED in December. If I had to guess the reason: High testing (1530/35), 10 APs, ED, Full pay.

which tier?

[Anonymous]

I'm wrong about where my dc got in to college this year? I don't think so. He shared the portal logins with me!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. My 3.5 GPA dc got into NEU in the EA round and did not submit scores. Also accepted at UVM with merit.

Anonymous wrote:I get the sense there are one or two posters accounting for the majority of the negative posts. At our school, the B students are still getting into Tulane, NE, and VM ED, as well as into a number of well respected slacs (I have kids at 2 different private schools). If anything, there are more early acceptances than last year, because counselors really encouraged early applications.

You are just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
My B kid, from a MoCo public school, got into a school on that tier
ED in December. If I had to guess the reason: High testing (1530/35), 10 APs, ED, Full pay.

which tier?

Guessing this is Wake, Lehigh or Bucknell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Amherst 3
Arizona State
Bates
Boston College 2
Brigham Young
Berkeley
Chicago 11
Claremont McKenna
Colby
Colgate
Cornell 2
Dartmouth 2
Davidson
Duke 2
Elizabeth City State (Sports)
Emory
Florida
Grinnell
Hamilton 2
Harvard 2
Howard
Macalester
Morehouse 2
Mt St. Mary's (Sports)
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Penn
Penn State
Pomona
Princeton 2
Richmond
St. Andrews
Sewanee (Sports)
USC
SMU
Syracuse
Tulane
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt
UVA 3
Wake Forest 2
Wesleyan 2
Whittier
William and Mary
Wisconsin 2
Yale 5

This list is STA. I would like to see it absent ALL athletic recruits, not just two that PP clearly deemed to be subpar schools (which is not true). In any event, the average GPA last year was about an 88, so a B+. Straight B is 84 or 85, and I know students in 2023 are not getting into Tulane/Wisconsin/Hamilton, or Wake Forest/Bowdoin, etc. with a B average, even with 1500 SAT/34 ACT.

My B kid, from a MoCo public school, got into a school on that tier
ED in December. If I had to guess the reason: High testing (1530/35), 10 APs, ED, Full pay.

For the need aware tier, that's important. For kids who need significant aid, drop at least another tier