“Rick” summer reading

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


If you want someone to come around to your opinion, then yes, you have to provide support for it. If you want your opinion to be given consideration when setting school curriculum, yes, you have to provide support for it. Otherwise your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s just noise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


They won't engage in a rational discussion because they can't support their arguments. The whole point here was to get people emotionally upset by spreading misinformation (i.e. "Look what the SJW's did now OMG OMG!!"). Responding is just playing their silly game.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


It’s my opinion that red should not be allowed in schools because it is offensive. No red objects, papers, clothes, backpacks, etc. That’s my opinion so it’s valid. You’ll support me in my desire to ban red, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.


Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?


What a witty response. I did read the thread - many posts about the fact that we can't possibly expose 11 year olds to this type of content. Since you appear to have problems with reading comprehension, my point is that 11 years will be exposed to this "content" whether the school assigns a book or not. [b]


That’s not enough to justify a book being required reading.

I mean, most MS kids will be exposed to porn. That doesn’t mean the school should be assigning it.

And no, I’m not comparing the book to porn. I’m addressing your bogus argument that just because the fact that kids will be exposed to certain ‘content’ makes that content appropriate to teach in English class.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.


Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?


What a witty response. I did read the thread - many posts about the fact that we can't possibly expose 11 year olds to this type of content. Since you appear to have problems with reading comprehension, my point is that 11 years will be exposed to this "content" whether the school assigns a book or not. [b]


That’s not enough to justify a book being required reading.

I mean, most MS kids will be exposed to porn. That doesn’t mean the school should be assigning it.

And no, I’m not comparing the book to porn. I’m addressing your bogus argument that just because the fact that kids will be exposed to certain ‘content’ makes that content appropriate to teach in English class.

"Rick" is porn? Wow!
Anonymous
Kevin Lewis needs to get on this story!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


If you want someone to come around to your opinion, then yes, you have to provide support for it. If you want your opinion to be given consideration when setting school curriculum, yes, you have to provide support for it. Otherwise your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s just noise.


I’m not here to persuade you or convince you of anything. The whole point if this post was that the OP did not feel the summer reading book/assignment was appropriate. Many people agreed with her. Others felt strongly the assignment was fine/important/awesome/what have you. I don’t think either side was going to change the minds of the others.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


If you want someone to come around to your opinion, then yes, you have to provide support for it. If you want your opinion to be given consideration when setting school curriculum, yes, you have to provide support for it. Otherwise your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s just noise.


I’m not here to persuade you or convince you of anything. The whole point if this post was that the OP did not feel the summer reading book/assignment was appropriate. Many people agreed with her. Others felt strongly the assignment was fine/important/awesome/what have you. I don’t think either side was going to change the minds of the others.


Okay, so there really wasn’t a point to this thread, it’s just the right-wing outrage machine in action again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.


Uh, that's the entire debate of this thread -- where are they going to learn about it? Not whether they will learn about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.


Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?


What a witty response. I did read the thread - many posts about the fact that we can't possibly expose 11 year olds to this type of content. Since you appear to have problems with reading comprehension, my point is that 11 years will be exposed to this "content" whether the school assigns a book or not.


Yes, the thread is about where, when and how they will be exposed to it. You're not even aware of the argument of the thread, and yet you say others have reading comprehension issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.


Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?


What a witty response. I did read the thread - many posts about the fact that we can't possibly expose 11 year olds to this type of content. Since you appear to have problems with reading comprehension, my point is that 11 years will be exposed to this "content" whether the school assigns a book or not. [b]


That’s not enough to justify a book being required reading.

I mean, most MS kids will be exposed to porn. That doesn’t mean the school should be assigning it.

And no, I’m not comparing the book to porn. I’m addressing your bogus argument that just because the fact that kids will be exposed to certain ‘content’ makes that content appropriate to teach in English class.

"Rick" is porn? Wow!


LOL reading comprehension, people. Or put your glasses on and reread before you respond.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.


Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?


What a witty response. I did read the thread - many posts about the fact that we can't possibly expose 11 year olds to this type of content. Since you appear to have problems with reading comprehension, my point is that 11 years will be exposed to this "content" whether the school assigns a book or not.


That’s not enough to justify a book being required reading.

I mean, most MS kids will be exposed to porn. That doesn’t mean the school should be assigning it.

[b]And no, I’m not comparing the book to porn.
I’m addressing your bogus argument that just because the fact that kids will be exposed to certain ‘content’ makes that content appropriate to teach in English class.

"Rick" is porn? Wow!


You must be an MCPS graduate because your reading skills stink.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


If you want someone to come around to your opinion, then yes, you have to provide support for it. If you want your opinion to be given consideration when setting school curriculum, yes, you have to provide support for it. Otherwise your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s just noise.


I’m not here to persuade you or convince you of anything. The whole point if this post was that the OP did not feel the summer reading book/assignment was appropriate. Many people agreed with her. Others felt strongly the assignment was fine/important/awesome/what have you. I don’t think either side was going to change the minds of the others.


Okay, so there really wasn’t a point to this thread, it’s just the right-wing outrage machine in action again.


I'm not right-wing. I'm liberal (although apparently I can't call myself liberal unless I'm onboard with MCPS English curriculum). I am against watered down BS books our kids are being asked to read specifically because they are about a certain subject. If you're going to teach English, then teach English. If you want to talk about cultural norms or sexual preference, then do it in the appropriate classes. Or at the very least come up with some books that are actually worth reading for reasons other than an agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


If you want someone to come around to your opinion, then yes, you have to provide support for it. If you want your opinion to be given consideration when setting school curriculum, yes, you have to provide support for it. Otherwise your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s just noise.


I’m not here to persuade you or convince you of anything. The whole point if this post was that the OP did not feel the summer reading book/assignment was appropriate. Many people agreed with her. Others felt strongly the assignment was fine/important/awesome/what have you. I don’t think either side was going to change the minds of the others.


Okay, so there really wasn’t a point to this thread, it’s just the right-wing outrage machine in action again.


I know you want to believe that we are right wing supporters of that slate. I can’t speak for anyone but myself but I’ve never voted R, have been to 3 same-sex weddings in the last 5 years of dear friends, have enthusiastically gone to Pride parades, and am a lifelong theater person! I’m allowed to think an assignment is developmentally inappropriate without being accused of things that are blatantly untrue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!


And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.


Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.


Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.


Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.


Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?


No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.


Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.


So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?


If you want someone to come around to your opinion, then yes, you have to provide support for it. If you want your opinion to be given consideration when setting school curriculum, yes, you have to provide support for it. Otherwise your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s just noise.


I’m not here to persuade you or convince you of anything. The whole point if this post was that the OP did not feel the summer reading book/assignment was appropriate. Many people agreed with her. Others felt strongly the assignment was fine/important/awesome/what have you. I don’t think either side was going to change the minds of the others.


Okay, so there really wasn’t a point to this thread, it’s just the right-wing outrage machine in action again.


I'm not right-wing. I'm liberal (although apparently I can't call myself liberal unless I'm onboard with MCPS English curriculum). I am against watered down BS books our kids are being asked to read specifically because they are about a certain subject. If you're going to teach English, then teach English. If you want to talk about cultural norms or sexual preference, then do it in the appropriate classes. Or at the very least come up with some books that are actually worth reading for reasons other than an agenda.


That's what they all say....
post reply Forum Index » Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS)
Message Quick Reply
Go to: