“Rick” summer reading

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who don't like Rick -- can you list some things you want to be on the reading list? Genuinely curious.

I’m the pp who looked up a 6th grade summer reading list from Brooklyn (clearly a liberal area). Here is their list:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ON8nfZlhddqCTb5lFc941gqxjpMdXhbH/view

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All bigots hate when you call them bigots. You’re being so defensive because deep down, you know it’s true. So many people keep feeling the need to label themselves “liberals” before they begin a rant fueled by absolute ignorance. Newsflash: the world is different from when you were in school. Try and keep up. Evolve with the rest of the civilized world.

You sound lovely. Can't wait until an entire generation grows up expressing their opinions this way, by bullying and belittling people who don't agree with them. Especially about bullying vs inclusivity. Well done, PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't like Rick -- can you list some things you want to be on the reading list? Genuinely curious.

I’m the pp who looked up a 6th grade summer reading list from Brooklyn (clearly a liberal area). Here is their list:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ON8nfZlhddqCTb5lFc941gqxjpMdXhbH/view

Are you one of the posters who disliked Rick because you thought it was poorly written? I think that example list definitely has some better written books on it for sure.

Or is it the content in Rick that you object to? Because a bunch of those example books involve self-discovery, disobeying your parents, burgeoning romantic relationships, puberty, bullies, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the assignments/slides the school has with this book, there is a whole glossary of terms. How is my prepubescent little boy supposed to discern whether he is asexual (absent sexual feelings) or just a prepubescent child who is not developmentally at the point to feel those feelings yet? I am finding this to be unnecessarily confusing.

Agree. Again, not all kids develop at the same rate.

Also, none of this is necessary for the school to be discussing with our 11 year olds.

Because you want to free to tell them at home that cis-het is the only acceptable way, and don’t want them to ever get a different message.

No. Why would you assume that? I don’t care if my kid is gay or straight. But I don’t want the school teaching my pre-pubescent kid about these topics.

What are you afraid will happen if they do? You are clearly worried about something. If you don’t want to tell us what that is here, on an anonymous board where no one knows who you are, perhaps that’s a sign you should examine your own motivations here.

I know what I'm afraid of. I'm afraid that they will be messed up by being exposed to things before they're ready. I don't care if they're gay or straight. I teach my kids sexuality is like a sliding scale and some people are all the way on one side and some are all the way on the other, but most people are clustered around the middle and move back and forth throughout their lives but sort of settle for one or the other label and stick with it. I teach them that having a gay dream doesn't mean you're gay, and wanting to be straight doesn't make someone straight. FYI. There is room in our household for them to be whoever they are when they figure it out.

That's my job, not the school's job.

Uh, you've already exposed your kids to sexuality. The school isnt going to do anything to "mess that up" by showing kids being different is okay and teaching kids acceptance. The hysterics are ridiculous.

I know my kids better than you or the school does. I know what they are ready to hear. I know what they can actually understand.

Great. Then homeschool them. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All bigots hate when you call them bigots. You’re being so defensive because deep down, you know it’s true. So many people keep feeling the need to label themselves “liberals” before they begin a rant fueled by absolute ignorance. Newsflash: the world is different from when you were in school. Try and keep up. Evolve with the rest of the civilized world.

You sound lovely. Can't wait until an entire generation grows up expressing their opinions this way, by bullying and belittling people who don't agree with them. Especially about bullying vs inclusivity. Well done, PP.

Lol. So, for example,you think someone calling a racist a racist is bullying? People aren't being inclusive when they don't want to hear a Nazi's opinion? You have so much to learn you sweet summer child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All bigots hate when you call them bigots. You’re being so defensive because deep down, you know it’s true. So many people keep feeling the need to label themselves “liberals” before they begin a rant fueled by absolute ignorance. Newsflash: the world is different from when you were in school. Try and keep up. Evolve with the rest of the civilized world.

You sound lovely. Can't wait until an entire generation grows up expressing their opinions this way, by bullying and belittling people who don't agree with them. Especially about bullying vs inclusivity. Well done, PP.

Lol. So, for example,you think someone calling a racist a racist is bullying? People aren't being inclusive when they don't want to hear a Nazi's opinion? You have so much to learn you sweet summer child.

Again, I don't see how being condescending and name-calling is going to win any converts to the inclusivity and anti-bullying side. Just not getting your logic. Why would people who hold those sentiments side with a condescending bully? Sort of defeats the purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.

Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?

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Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!

And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.

Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.

Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.

Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.

Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?

No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

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Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!

And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.

Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.

Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.

Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.

Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?

No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.

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Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!

And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.

Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.

Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.

Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.

Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?

No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.

+1 This is the level of reading comprehension our kids will have if we allow MCPS English curriculum to continue.

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Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!

And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.

Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.

Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.

Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.

Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?

No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.

Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!

And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.

Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.

Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.

Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.

Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?

No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.

This is so typical. Someone gives you a substantive response and all you can do is name-call. It’s pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your 11 year old can learn about identity/sexuality from you/your spouse, their teachers, or my 11 year old lesbian DD, but they are going to learn about it somehow in middle school. You can either get used to that idea or plan to homeschool them.

Read the thread. Then report back, m'kay?

What a witty response. I did read the thread - many posts about the fact that we can't possibly expose 11 year olds to this type of content. Since you appear to have problems with reading comprehension, my point is that 11 years will be exposed to this "content" whether the school assigns a book or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!

And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.

Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.

Keep it up. You will lose.

Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.

Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.

Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.

Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?

No, you haven’t. You’ve just said it’s wrong and should only be taught at home, with no explanation of what specific things are being taught in the classroom or what harm may come from what schools are teaching. People have asked for details about the supposedly objectionable reading questions and been ignored. People have asked for an explanation of a poster’s story about a supposedly inappropriate “how we met story” and been ignored. People asked the poster to explain what she was referring to when she said her kid’s school was teaching inappropriate values about relationships and were ignored. Whenever you people are pressed for specific on the harmful things that are supposedly happening in schools, you dodge, deflect and attack, because you know you can’t answer the question in a way that supports your position. We all see through you.

From the Cultural Warrior 101 playbook.

Asking you to support your arguments is a “Cultural Warrior 101 playbook”? To rational people, it’s just called critical thinking.

So if someone has an opinion that is different from yours, it only counts if they support their feelings to your liking and specifications? People are allowed to have different opinions from you without justifying them to you. Who anointed you arbiter of whether someone’s argument is supported enough?