Shen Yun warning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

[Anonymous]

^ TKC should have had that info on their website/flyers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

The issue was that TKC didn’t provide an accurate description of the show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

If the Shen Yun production company was comfortable with its beliefs they would provide an accurate description of their performance in TKC materials. It’s very telling that they don’t.

They know that very few people would choose to see it if they knew the true content.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.