Wilson / Jackson-Reed Teacher saying slurs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For all you people that think it was okay for the teacher to use that word, fine. Go ahead and use it. And please report back and let us know how that works out for you.

Also, don't forget to teach your kids when to, and not to use the word.

I'm pretty sure the folks defending the teacher, who let's not forget was subjected to possible hate speech, do teach their kids when to (?), And not to use the word. I can't imagine telling my child they are not allowed to say "I am not a b*, c*, etc" if someone calls them that. The n word doesn't have actual magical properties. You won't actual melt into the pavement if someone call you that and you refute it. Yes, words have power. But not to dissolve the time/space continuum.

I would absolutely tell my daughter not to use misogynistic slurs like, b-word, c-word, j-word, k-word, etc. etc. I wouldn’t repeat them back, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope dozens of teachers also leave Wilson/J-R if this teacher does depart.

That might put some sense into those charged with the administration of DCPS that their tolerance of bratty, undisciplined, out-of-control kids has consequences.

why would any teacher work at this school?
There have to be many better options in surrounding schools and districts that pay just as well and don't have this level of stress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not kryptonite. It's not salt on slugs. It's not a bucket of water on a witch. Just stop with the stop, drop and roll. This was not a teacher with a secret racist blog or whatnot. He repeated back an awful choice a student made, and that's called teaching. Naming things that people do back to them is very powerful..what's sad is that this is the response to yet another angry young man (presumably) lashing out. Shouldn't you show more concern over his awful, awful choices and cry for help for a grownup to see him, acknowledge him, and support him? This student need a the h word (H - E - L- P).

I teach HS and haven’t seen the video but if this is happening in June my guess is this student has been verbally abusive to teachers all year. And teachers have probably written the student up, brought the student up to counselors, emailed home, had meetings about this kid, etc. I don’t condone this teacher using that word but I understand how being in a position where you have to take verbal disrespect and abuse all year can cause you to make a poor choice. Teachers aren’t perfect and it’s really disheartening to have zero support outside of your classroom.

[Anonymous]

If an adult man said this to the teacher on the street, do you think he would have responded with the same words?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all you people that think it was okay for the teacher to use that word, fine. Go ahead and use it. And please report back and let us know how that works out for you.

Also, don't forget to teach your kids when to, and not to use the word.

Actually, were I in the same position as this teacher, I would hope to have the same presence of mind to say it right back to the person who used it against me.

Funny how this thread focuses on the teacher and not that kid. Where are his parents? Where is the school counselor? He’s going nowhere fast if someone doesn’t step in. But now he’s kryptonite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If an adult man said this to the teacher on the street, do you think he would have responded with the same words?

And your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all you people that think it was okay for the teacher to use that word, fine. Go ahead and use it. And please report back and let us know how that works out for you.

Also, don't forget to teach your kids when to, and not to use the word.

Actually, were I in the same position as this teacher, I would hope to have the same presence of mind to say it right back to the person who used it against me.

Funny how this thread focuses on the teacher and not that kid. Where are his parents? Where is the school counselor? He’s going nowhere fast if someone doesn’t step in. But now he’s kryptonite.

Apparently exclusive rights to use certain words under any circumstances while mposing absolute bans on others to use those same words under any circumstances, even if not in the Constitution, is firmly embedded in DCUM protocols and DCPS rules of the road.

That teacher should find a better job and not let the door hit him on the way out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all you people that think it was okay for the teacher to use that word, fine. Go ahead and use it. And please report back and let us know how that works out for you.

Also, don't forget to teach your kids when to, and not to use the word.

Oh my god! Literally NOBODY on here WANTS to use that awful word. Folks are just saying that the teacher put up a shield to deflect an arrow. He didn’t duck but stood his ground.

[Anonymous]

He is going to resign and find a better job where he is not disrespected and verbally abused daily.

I find it funny that this whole thread has dissolved into who can and can’t use the n word when the big discussion here should be that these kids have no consequences and how this level of abuse can be tolerated daily in our schools. Another poster is right, if this kid is abusive to the teacher, he is likely abusive to other kids. No wonder those with options leave DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Wilson - Jackson Reed - is toxic.

There have been multiple grading systems and class structures for the last three years. Teachers are exhausted and there is even an article in the latest a Beacon issue where teachers address these issues.

Certain groups of students have been out of control all year, starting last August when there were multiple fights every day including large, violent fights in hallways. Kids were milling around the halls between classes.

The school has been rudderless for a year while looking for a new principal.

Take a step back and look at the big picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all you people that think it was okay for the teacher to use that word, fine. Go ahead and use it. And please report back and let us know how that works out for you.

Also, don't forget to teach your kids when to, and not to use the word.

Oh my god! Literally NOBODY on here WANTS to use that awful word. Folks are just saying that the teacher put up a shield to deflect an arrow. He didn’t duck but stood his ground.

You're probably right, which makes it weird how hell-bent people are on claiming their right to use the word when they decide it's ok. What makes someone decide, 'I hate that word and don't want to ever use it, but right now in this instance it is my right to use the word and I'm going to choose to use it'?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw the video. Unless it was cut short or something the teacher did not lose his cool at all. Not at all. He did use the word to deny it applied to him but only after questioning why the student was using it at all. Teens are known for their black and white sense of right and wrong and their not fully developed ability to see nuance. I think a grown, wise adult (especially one who knows this teacher and that he’s as far from being racist as one could get) can reasonably see why he used that word in order to “return to sender” it’s like an arrow bouncing off a shield. He did not shoot the arrow. Context matters, even in the eyes of the law. Intent matters. The students were being incredibly disrespectful and we’re clearly harassing a hardworking and very effective teacher. He showed the student the door in a calm, direct manner. If there is more to the story it certainly was not evident in the video I saw.

From what you describe, I think he was incredibly brave to use the n word in this particular scenario. It sounds like he was disempowering what his attacker was trying to do. No one is brave enough to ever do that. He sounds like a true teacher to have not fainted dead away and instead stood his ground and taught a lesson around the n word. It reminds of take back the night in the 90s when we were all riot girrrls and stood our ground against those who would use sexual violence to diminish our right to healthily take up space in the world. This guy is amazing..I would want him teaching my kids. Brave!

Oh my god. It is not brave to use the n word.

Agree. We have a zero tolerance on any and all racial slurs. Not acceptable in my opinion.

It’s not a slur if you are not using it as a slur. Are people really so stupid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw the video. Unless it was cut short or something the teacher did not lose his cool at all. Not at all. He did use the word to deny it applied to him but only after questioning why the student was using it at all. Teens are known for their black and white sense of right and wrong and their not fully developed ability to see nuance. I think a grown, wise adult (especially one who knows this teacher and that he’s as far from being racist as one could get) can reasonably see why he used that word in order to “return to sender” it’s like an arrow bouncing off a shield. He did not shoot the arrow. Context matters, even in the eyes of the law. Intent matters. The students were being incredibly disrespectful and we’re clearly harassing a hardworking and very effective teacher. He showed the student the door in a calm, direct manner. If there is more to the story it certainly was not evident in the video I saw.

From what you describe, I think he was incredibly brave to use the n word in this particular scenario. It sounds like he was disempowering what his attacker was trying to do. No one is brave enough to ever do that. He sounds like a true teacher to have not fainted dead away and instead stood his ground and taught a lesson around the n word. It reminds of take back the night in the 90s when we were all riot girrrls and stood our ground against those who would use sexual violence to diminish our right to healthily take up space in the world. This guy is amazing..I would want him teaching my kids. Brave!

Oh my god. It is not brave to use the n word.

Agree. We have a zero tolerance on any and all racial slurs. Not acceptable in my opinion.

It’s not a slur if you are not using it as a slur. Are people really so stupid?

Do you think curse words aren’t curse words if you are not literally trying to curse someone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all you people that think it was okay for the teacher to use that word, fine. Go ahead and use it. And please report back and let us know how that works out for you.

Also, don't forget to teach your kids when to, and not to use the word.

I used it with my son recently to explain why it was in a book he read. Talking *about* the word is important. Yes I also teach him not to say it as a slur and why we usually say “n-word”. I also have to explain why it’s ok for black kids to say it everywhere and in music he hears. I’ll tell you, it is hard to make a persuasive case for equity to my kid when so much energy has to go into speech codes that don’t make a ton of sense, when the consequences are potentially huge for just making one mistake. I honestly feel it damages my ability to teach him because the predominant message is of fear and not getting into trouble, and the consequences are totally different based on race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw the video. Unless it was cut short or something the teacher did not lose his cool at all. Not at all. He did use the word to deny it applied to him but only after questioning why the student was using it at all. Teens are known for their black and white sense of right and wrong and their not fully developed ability to see nuance. I think a grown, wise adult (especially one who knows this teacher and that he’s as far from being racist as one could get) can reasonably see why he used that word in order to “return to sender” it’s like an arrow bouncing off a shield. He did not shoot the arrow. Context matters, even in the eyes of the law. Intent matters. The students were being incredibly disrespectful and we’re clearly harassing a hardworking and very effective teacher. He showed the student the door in a calm, direct manner. If there is more to the story it certainly was not evident in the video I saw.

From what you describe, I think he was incredibly brave to use the n word in this particular scenario. It sounds like he was disempowering what his attacker was trying to do. No one is brave enough to ever do that. He sounds like a true teacher to have not fainted dead away and instead stood his ground and taught a lesson around the n word. It reminds of take back the night in the 90s when we were all riot girrrls and stood our ground against those who would use sexual violence to diminish our right to healthily take up space in the world. This guy is amazing..I would want him teaching my kids. Brave!

Oh my god. It is not brave to use the n word.

Agree. We have a zero tolerance on any and all racial slurs. Not acceptable in my opinion.

It’s not a slur if you are not using it as a slur. Are people really so stupid?

Do you think curse words aren’t curse words if you are not literally trying to curse someone?

Yes? Depends on the word. If a coworker called me a “c*nt” I would tell HR “he called me a c*nt” and probably email him documenting what he said exactly.