Wilson / Jackson-Reed Teacher saying slurs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students are outraged because they feel a White teacher should never say the n-word, even in the context of this situation. They point to the fact that the student said the n-word with a soft a whereas the teacher used a hard -er. But the meaning of the terms are identical. The student didn't use the term to mean "bro".

In what possible universe is the meaning of those terms identical? That’s an insane claim to anyone who doesn’t live in a 100% white bubble. The teacher misspoke, and used a word he shouldn’t have. Of course, that doesn’t imply anything about his beliefs, and anyone who claims otherwise is being deliberately obtuse.

Of course, none of this should distract from the fact that the kid should be removed from the classroom (not that that will happen) and need to experience consequences. Homophobic slurs are never OK, and the behavior described sounds very threatening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are outraged because they feel a White teacher should never say the n-word, even in the context of this situation. They point to the fact that the student said the n-word with a soft a whereas the teacher used a hard -er. But the meaning of the terms are identical. The student didn't use the term to mean "bro".

In what possible universe is the meaning of those terms identical? That’s an insane claim to anyone who doesn’t live in a 100% white bubble. The teacher misspoke, and used a word he shouldn’t have. Of course, that doesn’t imply anything about his beliefs, and anyone who claims otherwise is being deliberately obtuse.

Of course, none of this should distract from the fact that the kid should be removed from the classroom (not that that will happen) and need to experience consequences. Homophobic slurs are never OK, and the behavior described sounds very threatening.

they’re identical to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are outraged because they feel a White teacher should never say the n-word, even in the context of this situation. They point to the fact that the student said the n-word with a soft a whereas the teacher used a hard -er. But the meaning of the terms are identical. The student didn't use the term to mean "bro".

In what possible universe is the meaning of those terms identical? That’s an insane claim to anyone who doesn’t live in a 100% white bubble. The teacher misspoke, and used a word he shouldn’t have. Of course, that doesn’t imply anything about his beliefs, and anyone who claims otherwise is being deliberately obtuse.

Of course, none of this should distract from the fact that the kid should be removed from the classroom (not that that will happen) and need to experience consequences. Homophobic slurs are never OK, and the behavior described sounds very threatening.

they’re identical to me.

Me too, especially in a vitriolic context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are outraged because they feel a White teacher should never say the n-word, even in the context of this situation. They point to the fact that the student said the n-word with a soft a whereas the teacher used a hard -er. But the meaning of the terms are identical. The student didn't use the term to mean "bro".

In what possible universe is the meaning of those terms identical? That’s an insane claim to anyone who doesn’t live in a 100% white bubble. The teacher misspoke, and used a word he shouldn’t have. Of course, that doesn’t imply anything about his beliefs, and anyone who claims otherwise is being deliberately obtuse.

Of course, none of this should distract from the fact that the kid should be removed from the classroom (not that that will happen) and need to experience consequences. Homophobic slurs are never OK, and the behavior described sounds very threatening.

they’re identical to me.

Its the same word. Different pronunciation. A white teacher would say that word always with a hard -er. Because a white person would never say it with a soft -er (or risk being accused of cultural appropriation). It was completely appropriate for the teacher to defend himself this way. I am so disappointed that any adult would find this teacher at fault in any way.

[Anonymous]

Bad parents

[Anonymous]

OK, I just watched the video (DS just showed me). I am 1000% sympathetic to the teacher. That was painful to watch.

[Anonymous]

The student should be suspended.


Yes, he clearly has issues. Maybe he has diagnosed special needs, in which case he needs to go to a special program better suited to his needs. We're in MCPS (Montgomery County, MD), and this does happen, but it takes a long time to gather the necessary documentation and push the parents to accept a different placement. Meanwhile, the kids and teachers suffer.

[Anonymous]

My kid just told me who the teacher was. This is an EXCELLENT teacher. I am so damned outraged that this teacher now has to defend themself. I told my kid to PLEASE get facts straight and not repeat any potentially inaccurate and deeply harmful rumors. This is just too much…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The student should be suspended.


Yes, he clearly has issues. Maybe he has diagnosed special needs, in which case he needs to go to a special program better suited to his needs. We're in MCPS (Montgomery County, MD), and this does happen, but it takes a long time to gather the necessary documentation and push the parents to accept a different placement. Meanwhile, the kids and teachers suffer.

Teacher here. I highly doubt this a student with any diagnosis. To get one, you’d have to have parents who give a crap. This student clearly does not. I’m ALL out of empathy this year.

[Anonymous]

This is terrible. I feel for that teacher and teachers in general having to deal with this BS day in and out.

Students like this, who are repeatedly exhibiting the same behavior, needs consequences, suspension, or placed in a different school environment other than general public.

It’s terrible how there are no consequences in DCPS because of restorative justice BS, which has no implementation except to excuse the perpetrator’s actions and take away any meaningful consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is terrible. I feel for that teacher and teachers in general having to deal with this BS day in and out.

Students like this, who are repeatedly exhibiting the same behavior, needs consequences, suspension, or placed in a different school environment other than general public.

It’s terrible how there are no consequences in DCPS because of restorative justice BS, which has no implementation except to excuse the perpetrator’s actions and take away any meaningful consequences.

I don't know about other regions, but this entire area is infected with restorative justice crap. Truthfully, there is solid data that shows it works to keep some kids at risk of dropping out, but it certainly feels as if the pendulum swings too far sometimes and does not protect innocent teachers and students.

[Anonymous]

This student is trash. That poor teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is terrible. I feel for that teacher and teachers in general having to deal with this BS day in and out.

Students like this, who are repeatedly exhibiting the same behavior, needs consequences, suspension, or placed in a different school environment other than general public.

It’s terrible how there are no consequences in DCPS because of restorative justice BS, which has no implementation except to excuse the perpetrator’s actions and take away any meaningful consequences.

I don't know about other regions, but this entire area is infected with restorative justice crap. Truthfully, there is solid data that shows it works to keep some kids at risk of dropping out, but it certainly feels as if the pendulum swings too far sometimes and does not protect innocent teachers and students.

PP here. A program can sound great but when you have no good process of training or implementation and inadequate staff the best program is crap. That’s how RJ is in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are outraged because they feel a White teacher should never say the n-word, even in the context of this situation. They point to the fact that the student said the n-word with a soft a whereas the teacher used a hard -er. But the meaning of the terms are identical. The student didn't use the term to mean "bro".

In what possible universe is the meaning of those terms identical? That’s an insane claim to anyone who doesn’t live in a 100% white bubble. The teacher misspoke, and used a word he shouldn’t have. Of course, that doesn’t imply anything about his beliefs, and anyone who claims otherwise is being deliberately obtuse.

Of course, none of this should distract from the fact that the kid should be removed from the classroom (not that that will happen) and need to experience consequences. Homophobic slurs are never OK, and the behavior described sounds very threatening.

+1

People who see them as semantically equal are deliberately making that choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JR parents: the amount of bright, talented, empathetic teachers you are losing this year…Old and young. Black and white. Gay and straight. Those with Dr. in front of their names & those that have been teaching until nearly their 69th birthday. As much as you demonize teachers have you ever reflected on the children we serve every day? Understaffed, overworked and trying our best. Who covers the classes with 2,000 kids and not enough adults? The teachers. We are doing our best. Please be kind OP. The story you have is incomplete.

+1

There are no meaningful consequences for any actions by students anymore. Period. Even schools where you think all of the kids are ‘good’ tell teachers to F-off, they will kill them, etc. Teachers are expected to take verbally abuse repeatedly and do nothing about it. And then when they do respond in some capacity it turns into vilification of the teacher. DCPS needs to reimplement some meaningful consequences or actually do behavior modification programs or there will be no teachers left to teach.

I don’t understand why teachers with any self-respect would stay at J-R or why parents with any common sense would knowingly send their kids off into such a toxic, chaotic environment. If there are students abusing their teachers this way, it’s a safe bet they are abusing other students as well.