Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.


No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.
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I don't hate the cops, in fact I think they are much needed which is why I don't think comments. Fillions need assault rifles. Slice it how you want but the cops did not go into that school because that kid had an assault rifle and would have mowed them down. That's a problem. The only for society and our children but for law enforcement
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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight. The Uvalde shooter made it by three armed officers. Then cops barricaded the killer in with a room full of children in a tactical stack. The cops sat safely outside as the killer shot each child? Protect and serve WHO?


Have you ever heard of the fog of war?

Doubtful the cops knew exactly what was happening as the situation was unfolding in real time. It's so easy to sit there behind a computer screen with 20/20 hindsight.


Keep spinning the BS. They train on this in these schools all the time. There was one guy with a gun killing 2nd and 3rd graders. Unarmed teachers were laying their bodies down to buy time. If the cops had rushed in the killer would have to try to kill the cops instead on ten children.


Back the Blue! Thin Blue Line! So Heroic!


Do we think a lawsuit will come from the victim's families?


Oh gd yes. They are getting sued to the hilt and they are going to pay out.

Getting paid with their own tax payer money.


The Supreme Court has made it almost impossible to sue the police, and it is much harder in police states like Texas. If anyone sues the police, they will be targeted by the police and no one will do anything about it.
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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.


No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.


Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.
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What about that person who said they were contacted by Greg Abbott's office and offered money to come out and say that Texas does not need stricter gun laws. I think their nephew was shot at the school. When they told him to get the heck off their porch Abbots, men threaten them.
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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.


No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.


Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.


It takes time to climb
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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate the cops, in fact I think they are much needed which is why I don't think comments. Fillions need assault rifles. Slice it how you want but the cops did not go into that school because that kid had an assault rifle and would have mowed them down. That's a problem. The only for society and our children but for law enforcement


The shooter picked an elementary school probably because he knew he wouldn't be overpowered. He was chickenshit to shoot up his high school or any place full of adults where he would be taken down before killing everybody in the whole room. The police are supposed to be trained and equipped to handle shit like this. They are not just random assholes off the street. They are supposed to know what to do. They are dressed up for it, now do it. Even if they don't charge the classroom, they shouldn't be standing in the parking lot talking about it for an hour. They should have been evacuating other classes, guarding the hallways and walkways so the shooter didn't get to kill another classroom full of kids. Not every kid that was shot died instantly. Some of them probably bled out over a half hour while the police pranced around in their expensive gear.
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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.


No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.


Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.


It takes time to climb


You know a pickup can drive through a chain length fence quite easily right?
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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.


No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.


Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.


It takes time to climb


There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.
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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


Once we have enacted every single common sense gun safety measures we can do this.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many of you seem to know exactly what happened when it is clear everyone on the ground is still gathering the facts. Your biases are showing. Literally not one of you knows what happened and yet you’re so quick to judge. The fact that you have already judged law enforcement to be at fault without an understanding of what actually happened shows how clueless you all are. You’re just as bad as the open carry gun nuts who walk around waiting for their chance to be a “hero.”

The fact that there were police outside setting a perimeter and keeping civilians from running inside does not mean there were not already officers inside addressing the situation.


We know a lot. We know the initial police stories were all lies. We can see in the videos that a bunch of local cops were doing nothing. Just standing around in their expensive gear looking like they've never had any training for responding to a shooter.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many of you seem to know exactly what happened when it is clear everyone on the ground is still gathering the facts. Your biases are showing. Literally not one of you knows what happened and yet you’re so quick to judge. The fact that you have already judged law enforcement to be at fault without an understanding of what actually happened shows how clueless you all are. You’re just as bad as the open carry gun nuts who walk around waiting for their chance to be a “hero.”

The fact that there were police outside setting a perimeter and keeping civilians from running inside does not mean there were not already officers inside addressing the situation.


19 dead kids, zero officers even particularly hurt. It's worth asking why those numbers aren't different, because the job (of any adult really, but especially of police) is to put yourself in the line of fire for a child. It's worth asking that question now, before the police have a chance to create a narrative that absolves them off responsibility, which is what they will do.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many of you seem to know exactly what happened when it is clear everyone on the ground is still gathering the facts. Your biases are showing. Literally not one of you knows what happened and yet you’re so quick to judge. The fact that you have already judged law enforcement to be at fault without an understanding of what actually happened shows how clueless you all are. You’re just as bad as the open carry gun nuts who walk around waiting for their chance to be a “hero.”

The fact that there were police outside setting a perimeter and keeping civilians from running inside does not mean there were not already officers inside addressing the situation.


According to their own changing story, they withdrew, set up a perimeter and were waiting for SWAT. Then an off duty CPB officer showed up, said eff that and went in.
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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.


I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?


An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs


Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?


1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.



It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.


So many security breaches.


Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school


As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.


Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out


Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?


The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

I would too if my opinion of Republicans wasn’t that they’re trying to take America down. That’s pretty clearly what they’re doing.

They’re also engaging in the time honored habit of pushing total bullsit after a shooting. What schools aren’t locked? All of them are. But they all have big as windows so unless they’re willing to address the gun lust in the GOP, school shooters can just shoot through doors and windows.

It’s the guns. It’s the guns.


The GOP wants minority white Christian fascist to govern over the multicultural majority. We can’t look at these incidents since isolation. They fetishized over guns, want to criminalize women who have a miscarriage, to the trans kid who just wants to play soccer.

They spew their hateful agenda and practicing division and sadly too many Americans gobble it up. This ONLY ends when we crush MAGA Republicans at the ballot box. If you vote for GOP, they your are saying kids dying by gun fire is the price to pay for Chose one:
lower taxes
2nd amendment
Baaaabbiies (but not kids)

It’s a bianary choice.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many of you seem to know exactly what happened when it is clear everyone on the ground is still gathering the facts. Your biases are showing. Literally not one of you knows what happened and yet you’re so quick to judge. The fact that you have already judged law enforcement to be at fault without an understanding of what actually happened shows how clueless you all are. You’re just as bad as the open carry gun nuts who walk around waiting for their chance to be a “hero.”

The fact that there were police outside setting a perimeter and keeping civilians from running inside does not mean there were not already officers inside addressing the situation.


19 dead kids, zero officers even particularly hurt. It's worth asking why those numbers aren't different, because the job (of any adult really, but especially of police) is to put yourself in the line of fire for a child. It's worth asking that question now, before the police have a chance to create a narrative that absolves them off responsibility, which is what they will do.


Yes. Agreed.
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