Missionaries should be banned

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see, it’s evil, hateful, wrong, exploitative and every other badness for people to travel to share what they believe is good news, but it’s perfectly OK for you to denounce and defame generations of people from countless denominations because you disagree with them.

IME, people are most often threatened by a message that makes them suspect that what they insist they believe is not true, so they get aggressively defensive. When people think what they’re being told is silly, they more often ignore and/or laugh it off.

When the missionaries leave, should they take their schools, colleges, hospitals, water programs and everything else they brought with them?


Do the missionaries understand how un-Christlike their conditional so-called charity actually is? What would Jesus think of: Love thy neighbor as thy self — as long as you can first force thy neighbors to celebrate every twisted conditions that have been attached to this mockery of “Love”?


I’m sorry, but the cartoonish, caricature you paint really bears no resemblance to reality. Even in the 1500’s, the goal of Jesuit missionaries in Asia was to alleviate corporal suffering as well as to offer people the tools to (as the Jesuits saw it) attain eternal life. The letters of St. Francis Xavier are replete with examples of this. I don’t know where you got this idea of “conditional” charity; I’ve spent a ton of time around missionaries spanning nearly three decades and I’ve never once encountered anything like that.


? if they're not spreading the word they're not "missionaries." What you're describing as helping people can be done by any secular charitable organization. The difference is that along with the missionaries' help comes a sermon and efforts to convert them to a particular religion.


I hope you understand that what you wrote is not how most religions define missions and that the prostyltizing you describe is not a part of many, many religious sects' charity missions. You are painting with way too broad a brush about things you have no experience with or knowledge of.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


I’m not Catholic.

Are you defending the cast system? Are you arguing that people who voluntarily choose to leave one religion and attend a rally for another religion shouldn’t be allowed to make that choice?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.


Your true colors come out in spittle-flecked ad hominems. Try to stick to the topic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see, it’s evil, hateful, wrong, exploitative and every other badness for people to travel to share what they believe is good news, but it’s perfectly OK for you to denounce and defame generations of people from countless denominations because you disagree with them.

IME, people are most often threatened by a message that makes them suspect that what they insist they believe is not true, so they get aggressively defensive. When people think what they’re being told is silly, they more often ignore and/or laugh it off.

When the missionaries leave, should they take their schools, colleges, hospitals, water programs and everything else they brought with them?


Do the missionaries understand how un-Christlike their conditional so-called charity actually is? What would Jesus think of: Love thy neighbor as thy self — as long as you can first force thy neighbors to celebrate every twisted conditions that have been attached to this mockery of “Love”?


I’m sorry, but the cartoonish, caricature you paint really bears no resemblance to reality. Even in the 1500’s, the goal of Jesuit missionaries in Asia was to alleviate corporal suffering as well as to offer people the tools to (as the Jesuits saw it) attain eternal life. The letters of St. Francis Xavier are replete with examples of this. I don’t know where you got this idea of “conditional” charity; I’ve spent a ton of time around missionaries spanning nearly three decades and I’ve never once encountered anything like that.


? if they're not spreading the word they're not "missionaries." What you're describing as helping people can be done by any secular charitable organization. The difference is that along with the missionaries' help comes a sermon and efforts to convert them to a particular religion.


I hope you understand that what you wrote is not how most religions define missions and that the prostyltizing you describe is not a part of many, many religious sects' charity missions. You are painting with way too broad a brush about things you have no experience with or knowledge of.


Why don't you go ahead and tell us what these many, many religious sects' charity missions do then? I know, they're just spreading the love, right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.


Your true colors come out in spittle-flecked ad hominems. Try to stick to the topic.


It’s on topic with your comments. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.


Your true colors come out in spittle-flecked ad hominems. Try to stick to the topic.


It’s on topic with your comments. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.


People who enter a stadium voluntarily aren’t the same as choir boys being raped. You just had to get that in, didn’t you? Get help for your hatred and bigotry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.


Your true colors come out in spittle-flecked ad hominems. Try to stick to the topic.


It’s on topic with your comments. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.


People who enter a stadium voluntarily aren’t the same as choir boys being raped. You just had to get that in, didn’t you? Get help for your hatred and bigotry.


Lol, tell me how harvesting sounds consensual and then we can talk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.


Your true colors come out in spittle-flecked ad hominems. Try to stick to the topic.


It’s on topic with your comments. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.


People who enter a stadium voluntarily aren’t the same as choir boys being raped. You just had to get that in, didn’t you? Get help for your hatred and bigotry.


Lol, tell me how harvesting sounds consensual and then we can talk.


LOL, show us an interview with a single one of those “harvested” people filling the stadium who was there involuntarily, and then we can talk.

And then get help for your hatred and bigotry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Just as the first millennium saw the cross firmly planted in the soil of Europe, and the second in that of America and Africa, so may the third Christian millennium witness a great harvest of faith on this vast and vital continent," he told a crowd in a New Delhi sports stadium.

-Pope John Paul II while he was treated as an honored guest in India, November 1999

Disgusting.




Was anybody in that stadium against their will? Was the pope forcibly converting anyone there? I’m not Catholic but even I can see your outrage is faux.

Your hatred is sort of appalling.


Your supremacist religion and it's supremacist leader are sort of appalling.


Your reductive stereotypes and bigotry are pretty appalling. Get help.


The need to "harvest" souls because you stereotype them as 'godless and uncivilized' is pretty bigoted and appalling.

Your throwing stones from a glass house (or glass church).



1. The pope did not say “uncivilized”, you made that up
2. You might not like the word “harvest” but it sounds pretty consensual
3. You’re not your


You must think that the choir boys being raped sounds pretty consensual too.


Your true colors come out in spittle-flecked ad hominems. Try to stick to the topic.


It’s on topic with your comments. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.


People who enter a stadium voluntarily aren’t the same as choir boys being raped. You just had to get that in, didn’t you? Get help for your hatred and bigotry.


Lol, tell me how harvesting sounds consensual and then we can talk.


LOL, show us an interview with a single one of those “harvested” people filling the stadium who was there involuntarily, and then we can talk.

And then get help for your hatred and bigotry.


You would be the first to cry hatred and bigotry if a Muslim religious leader had a welcome reception by our government and then proceeded to give a big speech about how Islam conquered the Middle East, Parts of South Asia, and now it’s time to plant the Islamic flag on our soul and conquer it too.

But we already got the address to your glass house so no surprises there.

Anonymous
Charity is good. But only when it’s welcomed and with no strings attached.

Leave your religion at home.

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