Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.


I agree that they are likely horrified. I disagree about why. I doubt any of them had this kind of background (even Thomas) that warranted such scrutiny. The issue is the nominee.


He never should have lied about the drinking. He was trying to avoid any possibility that he could have attacked Ford and not remembered, but he just looks ridiculous now. I mean, FFS, he pledged a fraternity and was involved in bar fights. Did he really think nobody would speak up?
Yep, this.


#LeftyLies
He was not “involved in bar fights.” He happened to be present.
He never lied about his drinking.
He did not attack Ford.

The only truth you have stated is that he pledged a fraternity.


You sound desperate. You are just making stuff up. And adding hashtags.

I'm still waiting for your summary of CBFs lies, by the way.


I wasn’t the one who said she lied. But, since you asked. I do believe she made up the whole story. I didn’t believe that at first, but as more is revealed, I do now.
And, given her former boyfriend’s letter to officials, it seems she did lie regarding her fear of flying and her coaching of a friend on a polygraph. She lied to her former boyfriend about credit card charges. Why not now?




Can you explain how she knew that 1) Brett Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker/hard partier in high school/college and 2) that Mike Judge was a heavy drinker/hard partier and 3) that BK and MJ were best friends -- how did she figure this all out years ago so that she could start telling her story about the two in case BK ever got nominated for SCOTUS and she got called to testify against him?

Not one single pro-BK poster has come here to eplain how Ford figured all this out. Because otherwise it's a great coincidence, is it not, that the person she picked to lie about just happened to be a hard-drinking lout in high school and college and had a best buddy who was also a hard-drinking lout. She had to have done serious research to find this out so that she could make her lies ring true. Please explain. The notion that she saw his name in the paper in 2012 when he was nominated for a judgeship, saw he was about her age and went to GT Prep, and then started researching and somehow discovered he was a huge drinker and had a best friend named Mike Judge who was also a drinker, so then she started telling her tale in the event she could use it, is too incredible to believe. She would have had to talk to others whom BK acknowledges he knows to find all this out. Where are those people saying she called or wrote them asking for dirt on him? So far haven't heard anyone come forward and say, hey CBF contacted me in 2012 asking if I knew BK and what was he like.

To me the simple solution to this question is the one that makes the most sense: she did know BK, she did know MJ, this did happen to her, she is telling the truth.


She read Mark Judge's novel. It's all in there, the Safeway job ...

We don't have her 2012 therapists notes. We don't know what's in there. One thing is certain Kavanaugh's name was not mentioned in the notes.


How did she know to even read Judge’s book? It’s not like it was a best seller. How did she know that Bart O’Kavanaugh was actually some guy named Brett Kavanaugh who was now a conservative lawyer/ judge or on his way to becoming a judge so therefore she picked him to be the target of her wiley ways?

I mean you guys have a lot to explain here, how this all came about and fell into place so smoothly if she didn’t know both BK and MJ. Come on now - if she were completely lying why didn’t she tell more people, why didn’t she name him to her therapist if she wanted to concoct a story? It seems like one of the reasons you don’t believe her is because she didn’t name him during her therapy sessions. So if she had been concocting this elaborate ruse for years, don’t you think she would have made it more blatant? Answer me this.


Her own testimony:

MITCHELL: OK. Can you describe all of the other social interactions that you had with Mr. Kavanaugh?

FORD: Briefly, yes I can. There were during freshman and sophomore year, particularly my sophomore year which would have been his junior year of high school, four to five parties that my friends and I attended that were attended also by him.

She had been at other parties where Kavanaugh was. He was very likely with his friends. She knew this.


He denied knowing her. So who's lying? You sound like you don't believe him but that you believe that she knew him and that she was at parties with him. What's your theory, then, why she picked him out to destroy out of all the boys in those circles?



He may not have known her.. but she evidently knew him. She said her connection to him was through the guy she was dating. There were lots of people in HS and college that may not have known me, but I knew them.
Why she picked him out? I’ll leave that to you to figure out. As my mom used to say, “God gave you a brain. Use it."


No, you're the one alleging that she targeted him with a convoluted ruse to bring him down. You have to convince me why she would do that. I don't see any evidence why she would. Not a single thing that makes me say, wow she had it out for him for years.

Unless, of course, he had assaulted her.


Hmmm... according to her, she first disclosed his name to her husband in 2012. Why is that date significant? Because, he was on the short list for Romney in the event he won the presidency and SCOTUS had a vacancy. Is it making sense now?


No she has not been laying g in wait for six years. Please seek help and turn off Fox.
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So much winning!!!!! Brett will soon be on SCOTUS and I hope he trolls you by swearing in as "Bart."


It certainly wouldn’t surprise anyone.
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Kind of pathetic that Kavnanaugh is the best the GOP could come up with. Similar to Trump being the leader of their party. They're appealing to the pro-sexual assault voting block.
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Anonymous wrote:Ford's ex-boyfriend has no reason to lie.



What's his name?

Let's remember that Ford's father was a career CIA employee.


You've cracked the case! I'll bet the plot was hatched in the Comet Ping-Pong basement. First, we place birth announcements for a Kenyan boy in August 1961 editions of the Honolulu Advertiser & the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Next we recruit a Ph.D. in educational psychology to falsely report an assault to her therapist in 2012. We'll promise her a *free* polygraph test if she cooperates. Diabolical!


+1,000,000

Finally, someone is making sense! Don't forget the lovebirds, Strzok and Page, used their FBI knowledge to coach her how to pass a polygraph. It's their "insurance policy"!

By the way, I have voted Democrat for the last 50 years, but after seeing how Kavanaugh has been treated, I'm never voting Democrat again. I will vote Republican all the way down the ballot. There are millions of others like me and it's all your fault!



No one who says "I have voted Democrat" has actually voted for the Democratic party. We hear you loud and clear.

DP. How in the world would you know that? Are you saying that someone who usually votes for the Republican has never voted for the Democrats? I'm one. I have in the past, and I plan to again this cycle. (Kaine.)


No, I'm saying we all recognize that shortening of the proper term Democratic to Democrat (as in "the Democrat party" or "I will not vote Democrat again") has a long history among partisan Republicans as a way of passively agressively thumbing their noses at Democrats and the Democratic party (see how those two words are used properly?). Grassley did it at the hearings last week. Republicans think they're being so subversive but they sound childish.

Ah, I get it. (You'll also notice that I used "Democrat" properly.)
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Using "Democrat" as an adjective instead of "Democratic" is a verbal gang sign.

Russell Baker, writing in 1976:

"The origin of this illiterate phrase, goes back, I believe to the era of Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy ... The chief trouble with 'the Democrat party' is that it makes the Republicans saying it sound both illiterate and coy, and, so, is like a shotgun that is all kick and no fire."
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Anonymous wrote:Ford's ex-boyfriend has no reason to lie.



What's his name?

Let's remember that Ford's father was a career CIA employee.


You've cracked the case! I'll bet the plot was hatched in the Comet Ping-Pong basement. First, we place birth announcements for a Kenyan boy in August 1961 editions of the Honolulu Advertiser & the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Next we recruit a Ph.D. in educational psychology to falsely report an assault to her therapist in 2012. We'll promise her a *free* polygraph test if she cooperates. Diabolical!


+1 This is crazy. She's the alleged victim and her whole life is being dragged through the gutter. She is a well-off highly qualified professial. She has NOTHING to gain from exposing herself to this scrutiny and Kavanaugh has every reason to lie.


Democrats could have continued to protect Dr. Ford and honor her need for privacy if they had shared this confidentially with SJC 6 weeks ago. Democrats had no regard for Dr. Ford.
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So much winning!!!!! Brett will soon be on SCOTUS and I hope he trolls you by swearing in as "Bart."


LOL! And, he will do it at Old Ebbitt Grill.
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Anonymous wrote:Using "Democrat" as an adjective instead of "Democratic" is a verbal gang sign.

Russell Baker, writing in 1976:

"The origin of this illiterate phrase, goes back, I believe to the era of Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy ... The chief trouble with 'the Democrat party' is that it makes the Republicans saying it sound both illiterate and coy, and, so, is like a shotgun that is all kick and no fire."


I’m going out on a limb here, but I am betting you weren’t even alive in 1976. I am betting most of the people on this site weren’t.
Who seriously cares about these things?
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Anonymous wrote:Using "Democrat" as an adjective instead of "Democratic" is a verbal gang sign.

Russell Baker, writing in 1976:

"The origin of this illiterate phrase, goes back, I believe to the era of Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy ... The chief trouble with 'the Democrat party' is that it makes the Republicans saying it sound both illiterate and coy, and, so, is like a shotgun that is all kick and no fire."


I’m going out on a limb here, but I am betting you weren’t even alive in 1976. I am betting most of the people on this site weren’t.
Who seriously cares about these things?


You'd have a point if this had stopped in 1976. It didn't.
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Yale Law School should be embarrassed they let Kavanaugh graduate. He sounded really stupid in his testimony.
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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.


I agree that they are likely horrified. I disagree about why. I doubt any of them had this kind of background (even Thomas) that warranted such scrutiny. The issue is the nominee.


He never should have lied about the drinking. He was trying to avoid any possibility that he could have attacked Ford and not remembered, but he just looks ridiculous now. I mean, FFS, he pledged a fraternity and was involved in bar fights. Did he really think nobody would speak up?
Yep, this.


#LeftyLies
He was not “involved in bar fights.” He happened to be present.
He never lied about his drinking.
He did not attack Ford.

The only truth you have stated is that he pledged a fraternity.


You sound desperate. You are just making stuff up. And adding hashtags.

I'm still waiting for your summary of CBFs lies, by the way.


I wasn’t the one who said she lied. But, since you asked. I do believe she made up the whole story. I didn’t believe that at first, but as more is revealed, I do now.
And, given her former boyfriend’s letter to officials, it seems she did lie regarding her fear of flying and her coaching of a friend on a polygraph. She lied to her former boyfriend about credit card charges. Why not now?




Can you explain how she knew that 1) Brett Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker/hard partier in high school/college and 2) that Mike Judge was a heavy drinker/hard partier and 3) that BK and MJ were best friends -- how did she figure this all out years ago so that she could start telling her story about the two in case BK ever got nominated for SCOTUS and she got called to testify against him?

Not one single pro-BK poster has come here to eplain how Ford figured all this out. Because otherwise it's a great coincidence, is it not, that the person she picked to lie about just happened to be a hard-drinking lout in high school and college and had a best buddy who was also a hard-drinking lout. She had to have done serious research to find this out so that she could make her lies ring true. Please explain. The notion that she saw his name in the paper in 2012 when he was nominated for a judgeship, saw he was about her age and went to GT Prep, and then started researching and somehow discovered he was a huge drinker and had a best friend named Mike Judge who was also a drinker, so then she started telling her tale in the event she could use it, is too incredible to believe. She would have had to talk to others whom BK acknowledges he knows to find all this out. Where are those people saying she called or wrote them asking for dirt on him? So far haven't heard anyone come forward and say, hey CBF contacted me in 2012 asking if I knew BK and what was he like.

To me the simple solution to this question is the one that makes the most sense: she did know BK, she did know MJ, this did happen to her, she is telling the truth.


She read Mark Judge's novel. It's all in there, the Safeway job ...

We don't have her 2012 therapists notes. We don't know what's in there. One thing is certain Kavanaugh's name was not mentioned in the notes.


How did she know to even read Judge’s book? It’s not like it was a best seller. How did she know that Bart O’Kavanaugh was actually some guy named Brett Kavanaugh who was now a conservative lawyer/ judge or on his way to becoming a judge so therefore she picked him to be the target of her wiley ways?

I mean you guys have a lot to explain here, how this all came about and fell into place so smoothly if she didn’t know both BK and MJ. Come on now - if she were completely lying why didn’t she tell more people, why didn’t she name him to her therapist if she wanted to concoct a story? It seems like one of the reasons you don’t believe her is because she didn’t name him during her therapy sessions. So if she had been concocting this elaborate ruse for years, don’t you think she would have made it more blatant? Answer me this.


Her own testimony:

MITCHELL: OK. Can you describe all of the other social interactions that you had with Mr. Kavanaugh?

FORD: Briefly, yes I can. There were during freshman and sophomore year, particularly my sophomore year which would have been his junior year of high school, four to five parties that my friends and I attended that were attended also by him.

She had been at other parties where Kavanaugh was. He was very likely with his friends. She knew this.


He denied knowing her. So who's lying? You sound like you don't believe him but that you believe that she knew him and that she was at parties with him. What's your theory, then, why she picked him out to destroy out of all the boys in those circles?



He may not have known her.. but she evidently knew him. She said her connection to him was through the guy she was dating. There were lots of people in HS and college that may not have known me, but I knew them.
Why she picked him out? I’ll leave that to you to figure out. As my mom used to say, “God gave you a brain. Use it."


No, you're the one alleging that she targeted him with a convoluted ruse to bring him down. You have to convince me why she would do that. I don't see any evidence why she would. Not a single thing that makes me say, wow she had it out for him for years.

Unless, of course, he had assaulted her.


Hmmm... according to her, she first disclosed his name to her husband in 2012. Why is that date significant? Because, he was on the short list for Romney in the event he won the presidency and SCOTUS had a vacancy. Is it making sense now?


No, it doesn't. Why did she have such venom for this particular person on a short list for SCOTUS back in 2012. You need to convince me that she, who didn't work in politics, wasn't a laywer, and who moved far away from DC, was keeping close track of possible SCOTUS nominees (really?? I keep close track of politics and I had no idea he was on a short list back in 2012) -- why she hated him so much that she then started her ruse to take him down, that she was preparing to go for the long term should he be nominated, all out of some apparently random hatred for him.

Seems pretty convoluted to me.


Because I think she was assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh. She confabulated two separate stories, used elements of the truth and attached made up parts about Kavanaugh. She merged Kavanaugh into her existing story. She happened to have dated Squi and knew some details about Kavanaugh and his friends. She was absolutely gleeful during her testimony.
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He denied knowing her. So who's lying? You sound like you don't believe him but that you believe that she knew him and that she was at parties with him. What's your theory, then, why she picked him out to destroy out of all the boys in those circles?



He may not have known her.. but she evidently knew him. She said her connection to him was through the guy she was dating. There were lots of people in HS and college that may not have known me, but I knew them.
Why she picked him out? I’ll leave that to you to figure out. As my mom used to say, “God gave you a brain. Use it."
You should have listened to your mom.
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Anonymous wrote:Because I think she was assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh. She confabulated two separate stories, used elements of the truth and attached made up parts about Kavanaugh. She merged Kavanaugh into her existing story. She happened to have dated Squi and knew some details about Kavanaugh and his friends. She was absolutely gleeful during her testimony.

I think you and the other pro-Kavanaugh contingent are sounding nuttier and more desperate with each passing day.
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15:03: I don't think gleeful means what you think it means.
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