ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people that keep trying to use biobanding as a reason they should be able to play their kid down a grade dont get it.

In MLS Next the end goal is to play professionally and ideally as young as possible. When you sign your kid up to be biobanded its the kiss of death for their chances at playing professionally. You dont look good dunking on younger players. People feel bad for your kid because they're being used as a crash test dummy for other players to get noticed.

Recruiters will have the same type of revolution watching an older player playing down a grade for wins.
Players aren't allowed to play down. Playing down is only allowed in MLSN late developers.

Call it whatever you want in the end biobanding and playing down are the same thing. The difference is in a league setup to identify pro players biobanding is a bad thing. However in a league setup for recruiting playing down can be a serious advantage.
Playing down is not allowed except for MLSN.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also I find it rich that youre trying to say its a 12 month Seasonal Year which is completely independent of grade in school. When 6 months ago you were saying that we had to switch from BY to SY because there was so many trapped players playing up a grade.

Sorry hypocrite but grade in school matters.


You’re right! Let’s just go Grad Year and rip the bandaid off….

Grad Year without stupid hold backs is basically SY if they add in a rule not letting Aug birthdays play down a grade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also I find it rich that youre trying to say its a 12 month Seasonal Year which is completely independent of grade in school. When 6 months ago you were saying that we had to switch from BY to SY because there was so many trapped players playing up a grade.

Sorry hypocrite but grade in school matters.


You’re right! Let’s just go Grad Year and rip the bandaid off….

Grad Year without stupid hold backs is basically SY if they add in a rule not letting Aug birthdays play down a grade.
SY worked before, it'll work again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people that keep trying to use biobanding as a reason they should be able to play their kid down a grade dont get it.

In MLS Next the end goal is to play professionally and ideally as young as possible. When you sign your kid up to be biobanded its the kiss of death for their chances at playing professionally. You dont look good dunking on younger players. People feel bad for your kid because they're being used as a crash test dummy for other players to get noticed.

Recruiters will have the same type of revolution watching an older player playing down a grade for wins.
Players aren't allowed to play down. Playing down is only allowed in MLSN late developers.

Call it whatever you want in the end biobanding and playing down are the same thing. The difference is in a league setup to identify pro players biobanding is a bad thing. However in a league setup for recruiting playing down can be a serious advantage.
Playing down is not allowed except for MLSN.


Biobanding makes cheating less obvious. The players who are biobanded have no chance for college recruiting. It is for their parents' ego by stealing the younger player's game time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people that keep trying to use biobanding as a reason they should be able to play their kid down a grade dont get it.

In MLS Next the end goal is to play professionally and ideally as young as possible. When you sign your kid up to be biobanded its the kiss of death for their chances at playing professionally. You dont look good dunking on younger players. People feel bad for your kid because they're being used as a crash test dummy for other players to get noticed.

Recruiters will have the same type of revolution watching an older player playing down a grade for wins.
Players aren't allowed to play down. Playing down is only allowed in MLSN late developers.

Call it whatever you want in the end biobanding and playing down are the same thing. The difference is in a league setup to identify pro players biobanding is a bad thing. However in a league setup for recruiting playing down can be a serious advantage.
Playing down is not allowed except for MLSN.


Biobanding makes cheating less obvious. The players who are biobanded have no chance for college recruiting. It is for their parents' ego by stealing the younger player's game time.

This x1000

Unless the kid hits puberty and grows 12 inches + they stop playing him as a biobander.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.


Mlsnext would have had to build out a u8-u12 league to stay BY. Clubs will deal with two different age systems but won’t deal with the transition between BY and SY every year at u12/u13. Asking 5 months of birthdays to skip u12 every year going forward isn’t happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.


Mlsnext would have had to build out a u8-u12 league to stay BY. Clubs will deal with two different age systems but won’t deal with the transition between BY and SY every year at u12/u13. Asking 5 months of birthdays to skip u12 every year going forward isn’t happening.

When you have what everyone wants it doesnt matter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.


Mlsnext would have had to build out a u8-u12 league to stay BY. Clubs will deal with two different age systems but won’t deal with the transition between BY and SY every year at u12/u13. Asking 5 months of birthdays to skip u12 every year going forward isn’t happening.

When you have what everyone wants it doesnt matter.


We are at a mlsnext homegrown club and were told we are changing to 8/1. Also heard academies are as well. Guess we will all find out when they announce either way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also I find it rich that youre trying to say its a 12 month Seasonal Year which is completely independent of grade in school. When 6 months ago you were saying that we had to switch from BY to SY because there was so many trapped players playing up a grade.

Sorry hypocrite but grade in school matters.


You’re right! Let’s just go Grad Year and rip the bandaid off….

Grad Year without stupid hold backs is basically SY if they add in a rule not letting Aug birthdays play down a grade.


What about all the Sept to Dec kids who started school early should they also play up?
or just Aug kids who are a grade above most of their team?

Should be 12 month option like we have now but aligns better with school grade or just go full on grad year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.


Mlsnext would have had to build out a u8-u12 league to stay BY. Clubs will deal with two different age systems but won’t deal with the transition between BY and SY every year at u12/u13. Asking 5 months of birthdays to skip u12 every year going forward isn’t happening.

When you have what everyone wants it doesnt matter.


We are at a mlsnext homegrown club and were told we are changing to 8/1. Also heard academies are as well. Guess we will all find out when they announce either way.

ok anonymous post
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.


Mlsnext would have had to build out a u8-u12 league to stay BY. Clubs will deal with two different age systems but won’t deal with the transition between BY and SY every year at u12/u13. Asking 5 months of birthdays to skip u12 every year going forward isn’t happening.

When you have what everyone wants it doesnt matter.
Everyone wants the cash from parents. Clubs closer to cash than leagues. Leagues are one misstep from being mothballed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone hearing anything recently about mlsnext?


Our Coach of Directors says MLS Next Academy division will do SY by 2026/27. Also, he says that otherwise the club would be forced to leave MLS Next Academy, because it wouldn't be possible to keep 2 age systems within the club.

My son plays U12 for Saint Paul Blackhawks, he is October.


Give me a break.

Its not hard to maintain different age groups. Especially when the top grouping (MLSN Homegrown) is the top tier and what everyone wants.

if if was the other way around and a single lower level league was a different grouping than everyone else. Then yes, this wouldn't work because it would be viewed as additional work with no benefit.


Literally no DOC agrees with you. None.

Well its good that you know what all DOCs are thinking.

Seriously, MLSN Homgrown teams do not have any issues finding players to fill rosters. Their only challenge is finding the best of the best players so the team is competitive.


Mlsnext would have had to build out a u8-u12 league to stay BY. Clubs will deal with two different age systems but won’t deal with the transition between BY and SY every year at u12/u13. Asking 5 months of birthdays to skip u12 every year going forward isn’t happening.

When you have what everyone wants it doesnt matter.


We are at a mlsnext homegrown club and were told we are changing to 8/1. Also heard academies are as well. Guess we will all find out when they announce either way.

ok anonymous post


Believe whatever you want, they’ll make an announcement either way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also I find it rich that youre trying to say its a 12 month Seasonal Year which is completely independent of grade in school. When 6 months ago you were saying that we had to switch from BY to SY because there was so many trapped players playing up a grade.

Sorry hypocrite but grade in school matters.


You’re right! Let’s just go Grad Year and rip the bandaid off….

Grad Year without stupid hold backs is basically SY if they add in a rule not letting Aug birthdays play down a grade.


What about all the Sept to Dec kids who started school early should they also play up?
or just Aug kids who are a grade above most of their team?

Should be 12 month option like we have now but aligns better with school grade or just go full on grad year.

No SY 8/1-7/31 is fine it keeps the stupid hold backs out and makes it so 99.9% of the players on the field are a certain grade.

Just need to add in a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down and it will be 100% of players are always a specific grade. (Or they're playing up)
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