Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

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Anonymous wrote:So ODSL, NCSL, and CCL are leagues. CCL is a league created by clubs who wanted a higher level of competition than the NCSL was providing. CCL includes teams like McLean, BRYC, Loudoun, Arlington, and other clubs. Maybe Richmond and Virginia Beach but you can look that up. Each of these clubs promises to send their top two teams to this league. NCSL is another league and includes most of the other NOVA teams...Vienna, Alexandria, Herndon, Great Falls, Reston, and MD and DC teams too. These clubs send their top teams to this league. NCSL also includes like the 3&4th teams from most of the CCL clubs like Loudoun and Arlington. ODSL is a league that basically gets everyone else. The 5&6th teams from the biggest clubs, 3&4th teams from medium clubs, and 1&2nd teams from small clubs. However, it really doesn't mean that CCL teams are better than NSCL team better than ODSL teams. Many 1st teams are competitive across leagues for sure. VPL I think is a league that starts at like U12 and includes Vienna, CYA, SYA, and some other teams. Not sure about that league. EDP is a supplemental league meaning...you play your regular league schedule and you play 5 additional EDP games and these teams in this league are supposed to be very competitive...teams out of NJ, PA, MD, VA. For example, teams from Baltimore Celtic, Joga, DC United, SAC, etc etc. I think all you have to do is apply season by season for EDP and your club doesn't enter, just individual teams.

Hope that helps and I really hope I'm accurate because it does get confusing. : )

Good effort! One correction: The local CCL league was not created in order to give clubs the option of higher level competition than NCSL and WAGS were providing. For NCSL at least, the promotion/relegation set up was very effective in making sure the competition level was appropriate, and top tournaments and the regional and national leagues were available for teams that dominated division 1.

Competition was the reason that the original CCL south was created, to help make sure teams in Richmond, VA Beach, etc. were able to play other good teams. CCL north was masterminded by a handful of people who were feuding with WAGS and NCSL over various things, some quite petty and personal, and some having to do with annoying and inflexible rules NCSL and WAGS had in place. CCL talks a lot about their "club centric" model, which could in theory be helpful to kids' and coaches' development, but a lot of it boils down to clubs wanting to run their own show. Another driving factor was a desire to be able to tell their membership that they offered something special even if they didn't get awarded a Development Academy, or later, an ECNL slot. I believe the latter factor was also the reason a couple other silly leagues like the Atlantic Soccer League were created.

This area has a much more confusing mix of leagues than most, and I think it would be much better overall all if there were a way to go back to having just the top leagues (DA and ECNL or girls DA) plus a pro/rel league. But at the end of the day, we are fortunate to live in a region that has a strong soccer tradition.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

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Does anyone know what league the SCAA boys U9/U10 teams play in? I can't find any information on the SCAA website.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

Because they don't. Why do you care, you do not have to play on a team that is in that league. You have choices. Exercise them.

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It is ridiculous -- agreed. To be fair, the VPL boosters would say those games are being played the same weekend, so teams can just stay in the area. But yes, there's better competition in Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

Because they don't. Why do you care, you do not have to play on a team that is in that league. You have choices. Exercise them.

Yes. I will suggest a 'sick out' with the other parents who all are bitching about the drive. Nobody wants to leave because the club is local and practices are 10 min away so they put up with this sh*t, but if 95% of the team calls out sick on VA Beach game day maybe they will start making change. Teamsters unite!

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

Because they don't. Why do you care, you do not have to play on a team that is in that league. You have choices. Exercise them.

Yes. I will suggest a 'sick out' with the other parents who all are bitching about the drive. Nobody wants to leave because the club is local and practices are 10 min away so they put up with this sh*t, but if 95% of the team calls out sick on VA Beach game day maybe they will start making change. Teamsters unite!

Don't accept an offer to a team that plays in a regional league. If you don't want to drive, don't join the team. You are being stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what league the SCAA boys U9/U10 teams play in? I can't find any information on the SCAA website.

I assumed it was YDL the same league FCV is in before it was changed back to SCAA. Now I wonder if that might of changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what league the SCAA boys U9/U10 teams play in? I can't find any information on the SCAA website.

I assumed it was YDL the same league FCV is in before it was changed back to SCAA. Now I wonder if that might of changed.

SCAA could possibly join VPL, no real reason they can't but otherwise they will be in WAGS/NCSL

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

Because they don't. Why do you care, you do not have to play on a team that is in that league. You have choices. Exercise them.

Yes. I will suggest a 'sick out' with the other parents who all are bitching about the drive. Nobody wants to leave because the club is local and practices are 10 min away so they put up with this sh*t, but if 95% of the team calls out sick on VA Beach game day maybe they will start making change. Teamsters unite!

Don't accept an offer to a team that plays in a regional league. If you don't want to drive, don't join the team. You are being stupid.

Nah skipping the two Va Beach games each year is a better option when the weeknight practices are close v traveling in rush hour weeknights to another club

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

so we are going to do this again.... we need a separate thread that just debates the merits and downfalls of each league

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what league the SCAA boys U9/U10 teams play in? I can't find any information on the SCAA website.

I assumed it was YDL the same league FCV is in before it was changed back to SCAA. Now I wonder if that might of changed.

SCAA could possibly join VPL, no real reason they can't but otherwise they will be in WAGS/NCSL

SCAA is not a member of WAGS or NCSL, so they would have to apply for membership and be accepted. Prior to joining with FCV and becoming "FCV South County" they only had teams in ODSL. FCV South County DID apply for WAGS membership last spring and were NOT voted in, so they played in WAGS as "FCV Ashburn" teams.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder what value the VPL offers. I don't care. I don't have a horse in this harness racing circus exhibition, or whatever it's supposed to be, but I'd heard the teams don't actually get to play many games, NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time (an exaggeration, I would assume), and that the whole VPL idea is just a way to entice NoVa teams to drive to Richmond and Virginia Beach "all the time" when they could just play Olney Rangers and lose that way. What's the real story??

Perhaps you should look at the league website and se what clubs are in the league and then you will not say such ignorant things like "NoVA teams have to drive to Virginia Beach all the time "

And perhaps you should look at CCL and quite frankly any "regional" league. While your at it, look up what "regional" means and then compare that meaning to "local".

If you look at the league website it says that NoVa teams have to drive to Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads all the time, while "your" at it.

Driving 4 hours for a regular season game at ages 8/9/1/11/12 is just mind-blowingly ridiculous when there are so many teams locally.

The kids would be better off scrimmaging one of their own club's teams then sitting in traffic for 8 hours. WTH DOES NOBODY ELSE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? Parents need to grow a set of balls and start pushing back.

Because they don't. Why do you care, you do not have to play on a team that is in that league. You have choices. Exercise them.

Yes. I will suggest a 'sick out' with the other parents who all are bitching about the drive. Nobody wants to leave because the club is local and practices are 10 min away so they put up with this sh*t, but if 95% of the team calls out sick on VA Beach game day maybe they will start making change. Teamsters unite!

Don't accept an offer to a team that plays in a regional league. If you don't want to drive, don't join the team. You are being stupid.

Nah skipping the two Va Beach games each year is a better option when the weeknight practices are close v traveling in rush hour weeknights to another club

Good luck with that and having the coach selecting your kid next season. The Club assigns your team to the league, you know this going in and to "sick out' is breach of contract on your part and the club has no reason to keep your kid on the team. You have other options, but I suppose you are very special and should have both your cake and eat it too.

Jesus you are a tool.