2024 Democratic National Convention

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Trump tried to have pence killed, and bush and Cheney are not supporting Trump, so no, I don’t think it’s odd that they weren’t giving keynote addresses at the convention.
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Anonymous wrote:The DNC can throw a nice party with the Obamas, Clintons, Oprah, and musical acts, but if they invite multiple Jews to speak and can’t make room for a single Palestinian-American, I’ll sit out this election. If that means Trump again, so be it.


Then you are a moron and can reap the consequences. This is not a platform for Palestinian A to speak out about their issues, I say this as someone who has been and is a staunch Gaza supporter.

As for Jewish speakers, I saw Josh Shapiro but he was there as a governor, not as a person of Jewish faith. Also, politics is never about 100% this or that, it’s about timing. Like it or not but politics is never about idealism, there is a whole lot of gray and a smidge of black and white.


Name call all you want; it’s the DNC who are cowards and decided that kowtowing to Zionists was their priority, to the point of denying even a single Palestinian-American the opportunity to speak. They’ll lose my vote if they can’t fix that.


Go take a hike. After tumultuous 8-9 months of infighting within the party, we have reached this fragile unity, people like you can sit on the sidelines and sulk all you want. We don’t want your vote, you can reminisce about the good old days when Trump is back.


And it will be worse. Harris at least tries to walk the very thin line with being supportive of Israel while commiserating over Arab deaths. She has come out and verbally chastised Netanyahu about the wide-scale Arab death toll and the need for humanitarian aid to the Gazans.

Trump is a very, very pro-Israel supporter and has said nothing about protection or support for the Arabs. Trump has made no objections to Israel's defense of their borders and the singleminded determination of the Israelis to destroy Hamas even if it means horrific Arab civilian sacrifices.

So, while there are Arab sympathetic objectors to the current administration, voting for Trump or sitting out the election will actually be worse for US support of Palestinians. PP who says that Harris would lose your support, do you really realize that Trump will be worse for the Palestinians than Harris? She at least supports humanitarian aid for the Gazans and decries the violence against civilians that Hamas is using as human shields. Trump will not verbally support the Arabs, does not discourage Israeli violence against Palestinians and does not support humanitarian aid to Gaza.

So, why do you think that you supporting Trump or sitting out the election carries the message you want to send?


Why weren't there protests at the RNC, hmmm?


Because Dems actually care about Gaza. They are just trying to three an extremely delicate needle to keep the party unified for the election. But some Dem voters want more on Gaza and think protesting can get concessions, like. Speaker at the Convention. Understandable. But not helpful to getting Harris elected. And if she isn’t elected, Gaza will be wiped off the map.

So why no protestors at the R convention? Because everyone knows Trump doesn’t give a flying flip about Gaza and there are zero concession to be had. And Rs would be fine with protestors, who they would pain as violent leftists.

In related news, Rs would also be fine with LGBTQ protestors at their convention. Dems would actually care.

The problem is the Gaza protestors are like BERNIE bros. They want all their demands met now for they re sitting in a corner and sulking. That they don’t get that compromise is needed to reach a larger goal. They refuse to be team players, then yell when they aren't in the starting lineup.



Making room for one prominent Palestinian-American speaker would have been the right thing to do.

Instead, the DNC powerbrokers decided that bending over backwards to demonstrate their allegiance to Israel was the expedient thing to do.

Maybe it is from a polling perspective but Harris has lost my vote. If she’s too much of a coward to insist on what’s right at a convention, she certainly don’t have the courage to stand up to Netanyahu and the Jewish lobby if elected.


Sure. Making room for a prominent pro Palestinian that recognizes Israel’s right to exists, denounces Hamas and oct 7th and pretends they give a hoot about the terrorism and hostages that started this war would be fine. But find me one. I’ll wait. Having someone like Rashida tlaib up there is as inflammatory as having MTG on the RNC stage.


I don't think Palestinian-Americans should be required to jump through hoops to placate Jewish interests just to be allowed to speak at a DNC convention.

Apparently you do. Go ahead and vote for Harris. I'll pass unless they change course. If that means another Trump term, that's the price the Democrats should pay.


I don’t think not supporting a terrorist entity is a “hoop” that one has to jump through. But go ahead and pass on Harris. Electing trump will thrill hard core right wing pro Israel supporters and you’ll reap what you sow.



+1 anyone implying or stating support for Hamas is supporting a terrorist organization by extension and a tyrannical government that hasn't permitted a free election in 18+ years.


What mainline elected democrats are supporting Hamas? I don't know of any.
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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know what Harris plans to do during her presidency and what her priorities are. Her talking about the past, her life, etc, that is good to know who she is, but what are her political plans for America?


She has already outlined some of this...

continue on the strong economic path that Biden, Obama and Clinton estbalished including job creation, wage growth etc; continue to strengthen infrastrcuture, educaiton and healthcare, our global alliances, etc. Reduce inflation by increasing housing supply, strengthening price gouging laws and reducing medical costs; codifying Roe, Passing the Lewis Voting Rights Act.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Not really.

It only highlights that Democrats have been in charge of our country for most of last 20 years.

So, all of the problems lay at their feet.


Except when democrats leave office, the GDP is expanding and unemployment is low, and when the GOP leaves office, the country is in a recession or worse.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Not really.

It only highlights that Democrats have been in charge of our country for most of last 20 years.

So, all of the problems lay at their feet.


Except when democrats leave office, the GDP is expanding and unemployment is low, and when the GOP leaves office, the country is in a recession or worse.


16 of last 20 years all Democrats.
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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know what Harris plans to do during her presidency and what her priorities are. Her talking about the past, her life, etc, that is good to know who she is, but what are her political plans for America?


She has already outlined some of this...

continue on the strong economic path that Biden, Obama and Clinton estbalished including job creation, wage growth etc; continue to strengthen infrastrcuture, educaiton and healthcare, our global alliances, etc. Reduce inflation by increasing housing supply, strengthening price gouging laws and reducing medical costs; codifying Roe, Passing the Lewis Voting Rights Act.


Oh, please. It's all about taxing wealth and redistributing it to those whose votes the Democrats covet.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Not really.

It only highlights that Democrats have been in charge of our country for most of last 20 years.

So, all of the problems lay at their feet.


Except when democrats leave office, the GDP is expanding and unemployment is low, and when the GOP leaves office, the country is in a recession or worse.


16 of last 20 years all Democrats.



Anyone who has taken a civics course understands why this point you insist on trying to make is garbage. This is pretty educated board, you might want to stop wasting your time.
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The feel-good show will end and the progressive left will punish Harris for demonstrating little but her willingness to be a stooge for Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Not really.

It only highlights that Democrats have been in charge of our country for most of last 20 years.

So, all of the problems lay at their feet.


Except when democrats leave office, the GDP is expanding and unemployment is low, and when the GOP leaves office, the country is in a recession or worse.


16 of last 20 years all Democrats.



Anyone who has taken a civics course understands why this point you insist on trying to make is garbage. This is pretty educated board, you might want to stop wasting your time.


I’m sorry you don’t like facts. But it is undeniable that Democrats have been Presidents 16 of last 20 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Not really.

It only highlights that Democrats have been in charge of our country for most of last 20 years.

So, all of the problems lay at their feet.


Except when democrats leave office, the GDP is expanding and unemployment is low, and when the GOP leaves office, the country is in a recession or worse.


16 of last 20 years all Democrats.

Huh? 20 years goes back to 2004, when George W. Bush was president. So even when you arbitrarily draw the line there we had 8 years of Bush/Trump and 12 years of Obama/Biden.
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Anonymous wrote:The feel-good show will end and the progressive left will punish Harris for demonstrating little but her willingness to be a stooge for Israel.


Do you think Michigan will go to Trump?
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>> You treat anyone who doesn't spend all their time criticizing Hamas and praising Israel as "implying support for Hamas."


Yes--because Hamas being a terrorist organization is why this is all happening.
I cant even.
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Anonymous wrote:The feel-good show will end and the progressive left will punish Harris for demonstrating little but her willingness to be a stooge for Israel.


We have a population of 300 million right here in America. Why on earth would concerns over Israel/Palestine be more than a rounding error in a decision about whether Trump or Harris would make a better President of the United States?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone find it interesting that no other former president or vice president on the GOP side spoke at their convention. Not Bush, Quayle, Cheney, or Pence. That's quite telling compared to what the DNC has presented this week.


Not really.

It only highlights that Democrats have been in charge of our country for most of last 20 years.

So, all of the problems lay at their feet.


Except when democrats leave office, the GDP is expanding and unemployment is low, and when the GOP leaves office, the country is in a recession or worse.


16 of last 20 years all Democrats.


Bad math. 20 years ago was 2004 and Bush was president. 12 of the last 20 years were Dems, 8 were Rs. Of course, 12 of the last 24 years were Ds and the same amount were Rs. The Dems had to take the country out of the economic pickle that happened under the Rs each time.
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Anonymous wrote:The feel-good show will end and the progressive left will punish Harris for demonstrating little but her willingness to be a stooge for Israel.


Do you think Michigan will go to Trump?


DP. No chance Michigan goes for Trump, because the greater Detroit area is Arab, plus -

- has everyone forgoten the Big 3 automakers are in Detroit?

Kamala has Michigan in the bag. It’s a done deal.
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