Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:The Akin Gump partner who has text messages that may show that Bart lied about his knowledge of Debbie Ramirez and a wedding they both attended, STILL has not heard from the FBI.
This is her letter of this morning that was shared with me on FB.

From: Kerry Berchem
Date: October 3, 2018 at 6:23:28 AM EDT
To: "--------. (DO) (FBI)"
Subject: FOLLOWING UP AGAIN Urgent: Ramirez Allegations
Agent ---------,
I appreciate your email below advising me to call the field office. Indeed, in addition to my sending you several emails below and logging into the PAL portal twice and having a representative speak with the New Haven CT field office (which advised that they had no jurisdiction), I called the Bridgeport CT FBI field office Monday at 9:45 am. I spoke with and left messages with three (3) different people.
I suppose you know this already but no one called me back. Really? The FBI is so busy that it cannot spare one agent to call me back? How can th]}e FBI - or anyone else for that matter - conclude that the information that I have and the questions they pose are without merit if they have not been answered? I do not know what the texts I have may mean or may not mean. But, then again, neither does the FBI. It hasn’t reviewed them.
In my professional capacity, I have been part of teams that have conducted internal and SEC investigations for public companies. Litigation hold notices go out. Emails and texts are reviewed. People questioned. No stone is unturned.
All I wanted when I reached out to the FBI on Sunday was to perform my civic duty, to have a private discussion with the FBI and to possibly assist in the investigation ordered by President Trump. I believed in “the process.” It is now Wednesday morning, almost three full days since I sent you my draft memorandum, which was subsequently leaked to the press without my permission. Can you offer any explanation - any explanation whatsoever - as to why the FBI has refused to follow up on a “tip” from me, a law abiding, tax paying private citizen?
Regards,
Kerry E. Berchem

COVER UP! SHe is not wrong at all. IT it is ridiculous that they think we will not notice, not care, or forget.

Flake is paying attention. He wanted an actual investigation. Not one just for political cover. He has said this repeatedly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Akin Gump partner who has text messages that may show that Bart lied about his knowledge of Debbie Ramirez and a wedding they both attended, STILL has not heard from the FBI.
This is her letter of this morning that was shared with me on FB.

From: Kerry Berchem
Date: October 3, 2018 at 6:23:28 AM EDT
To: "--------. (DO) (FBI)"
Subject: FOLLOWING UP AGAIN Urgent: Ramirez Allegations
Agent ---------,
I appreciate your email below advising me to call the field office. Indeed, in addition to my sending you several emails below and logging into the PAL portal twice and having a representative speak with the New Haven CT field office (which advised that they had no jurisdiction), I called the Bridgeport CT FBI field office Monday at 9:45 am. I spoke with and left messages with three (3) different people.
I suppose you know this already but no one called me back. Really? The FBI is so busy that it cannot spare one agent to call me back? How can th]}e FBI - or anyone else for that matter - conclude that the information that I have and the questions they pose are without merit if they have not been answered? I do not know what the texts I have may mean or may not mean. But, then again, neither does the FBI. It hasn’t reviewed them.
In my professional capacity, I have been part of teams that have conducted internal and SEC investigations for public companies. Litigation hold notices go out. Emails and texts are reviewed. People questioned. No stone is unturned.
All I wanted when I reached out to the FBI on Sunday was to perform my civic duty, to have a private discussion with the FBI and to possibly assist in the investigation ordered by President Trump. I believed in “the process.” It is now Wednesday morning, almost three full days since I sent you my draft memorandum, which was subsequently leaked to the press without my permission. Can you offer any explanation - any explanation whatsoever - as to why the FBI has refused to follow up on a “tip” from me, a law abiding, tax paying private citizen?
Regards,
Kerry E. Berchem

COVER UP! SHe is not wrong at all. IT it is ridiculous that they think we will not notice, not care, or forget.

Flake is paying attention. He wanted an actual investigation. Not one just for political cover. He has said this repeatedly.

I'm betting the FBI already has those emails. I think that Kavanaugh addressed the issue in his testimony. They have likely interviewed the individuals involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Akin Gump partner who has text messages that may show that Bart lied about his knowledge of Debbie Ramirez and a wedding they both attended, STILL has not heard from the FBI.
This is her letter of this morning that was shared with me on FB.

From: Kerry Berchem
Date: October 3, 2018 at 6:23:28 AM EDT
To: "--------. (DO) (FBI)"
Subject: FOLLOWING UP AGAIN Urgent: Ramirez Allegations
Agent ---------,
I appreciate your email below advising me to call the field office. Indeed, in addition to my sending you several emails below and logging into the PAL portal twice and having a representative speak with the New Haven CT field office (which advised that they had no jurisdiction), I called the Bridgeport CT FBI field office Monday at 9:45 am. I spoke with and left messages with three (3) different people.
I suppose you know this already but no one called me back. Really? The FBI is so busy that it cannot spare one agent to call me back? How can th]}e FBI - or anyone else for that matter - conclude that the information that I have and the questions they pose are without merit if they have not been answered? I do not know what the texts I have may mean or may not mean. But, then again, neither does the FBI. It hasn’t reviewed them.
In my professional capacity, I have been part of teams that have conducted internal and SEC investigations for public companies. Litigation hold notices go out. Emails and texts are reviewed. People questioned. No stone is unturned.
All I wanted when I reached out to the FBI on Sunday was to perform my civic duty, to have a private discussion with the FBI and to possibly assist in the investigation ordered by President Trump. I believed in “the process.” It is now Wednesday morning, almost three full days since I sent you my draft memorandum, which was subsequently leaked to the press without my permission. Can you offer any explanation - any explanation whatsoever - as to why the FBI has refused to follow up on a “tip” from me, a law abiding, tax paying private citizen?
Regards,
Kerry E. Berchem

COVER UP! SHe is not wrong at all. IT it is ridiculous that they think we will not notice, not care, or forget.

Flake is paying attention. He wanted an actual investigation. Not one just for political cover. He has said this repeatedly.

Flake plays the role of a maverick but always votes the party line. He is giving cover to the othe republicans to vote yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Akin Gump partner who has text messages that may show that Bart lied about his knowledge of Debbie Ramirez and a wedding they both attended, STILL has not heard from the FBI.
This is her letter of this morning that was shared with me on FB.

From: Kerry Berchem
Date: October 3, 2018 at 6:23:28 AM EDT
To: "--------. (DO) (FBI)"
Subject: FOLLOWING UP AGAIN Urgent: Ramirez Allegations
Agent ---------,
I appreciate your email below advising me to call the field office. Indeed, in addition to my sending you several emails below and logging into the PAL portal twice and having a representative speak with the New Haven CT field office (which advised that they had no jurisdiction), I called the Bridgeport CT FBI field office Monday at 9:45 am. I spoke with and left messages with three (3) different people.
I suppose you know this already but no one called me back. Really? The FBI is so busy that it cannot spare one agent to call me back? How can th]}e FBI - or anyone else for that matter - conclude that the information that I have and the questions they pose are without merit if they have not been answered? I do not know what the texts I have may mean or may not mean. But, then again, neither does the FBI. It hasn’t reviewed them.
In my professional capacity, I have been part of teams that have conducted internal and SEC investigations for public companies. Litigation hold notices go out. Emails and texts are reviewed. People questioned. No stone is unturned.
All I wanted when I reached out to the FBI on Sunday was to perform my civic duty, to have a private discussion with the FBI and to possibly assist in the investigation ordered by President Trump. I believed in “the process.” It is now Wednesday morning, almost three full days since I sent you my draft memorandum, which was subsequently leaked to the press without my permission. Can you offer any explanation - any explanation whatsoever - as to why the FBI has refused to follow up on a “tip” from me, a law abiding, tax paying private citizen?
Regards,
Kerry E. Berchem

COVER UP! SHe is not wrong at all. IT it is ridiculous that they think we will not notice, not care, or forget.

Flake is paying attention. He wanted an actual investigation. Not one just for political cover. He has said this repeatedly.

Flake plays the role of a maverick but always votes the party line. He is giving cover to the othe republicans to vote yes.

The other republicans don't need cover to vote yes. Your post makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

I agree that they are likely horrified. I disagree about why. I doubt any of them had this kind of background (even Thomas) that warranted such scrutiny. The issue is the nominee.

He never should have lied about the drinking. He was trying to avoid any possibility that he could have attacked Ford and not remembered, but he just looks ridiculous now. I mean, FFS, he pledged a fraternity and was involved in bar fights. Did he really think nobody would speak up?

Yep, this.

#LeftyLies
He was not “involved in bar fights.” He happened to be present.
He never lied about his drinking.
He did not attack Ford.

The only truth you have stated is that he pledged a fraternity.

You sound desperate. You are just making stuff up. And adding hashtags.

I'm still waiting for your summary of CBFs lies, by the way.

I wasn’t the one who said she lied. But, since you asked. I do believe she made up the whole story. I didn’t believe that at first, but as more is revealed, I do now.
And, given her former boyfriend’s letter to officials, it seems she did lie regarding her fear of flying and her coaching of a friend on a polygraph. She lied to her former boyfriend about credit card charges. Why not now?

Can you explain how she knew that 1) Brett Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker/hard partier in high school/college and 2) that Mike Judge was a heavy drinker/hard partier and 3) that BK and MJ were best friends -- how did she figure this all out years ago so that she could start telling her story about the two in case BK ever got nominated for SCOTUS and she got called to testify against him?

Not one single pro-BK poster has come here to eplain how Ford figured all this out. Because otherwise it's a great coincidence, is it not, that the person she picked to lie about just happened to be a hard-drinking lout in high school and college and had a best buddy who was also a hard-drinking lout. She had to have done serious research to find this out so that she could make her lies ring true. Please explain. The notion that she saw his name in the paper in 2012 when he was nominated for a judgeship, saw he was about her age and went to GT Prep, and then started researching and somehow discovered he was a huge drinker and had a best friend named Mike Judge who was also a drinker, so then she started telling her tale in the event she could use it, is too incredible to believe. She would have had to talk to others whom BK acknowledges he knows to find all this out. Where are those people saying she called or wrote them asking for dirt on him? So far haven't heard anyone come forward and say, hey CBF contacted me in 2012 asking if I knew BK and what was he like.

To me the simple solution to this question is the one that makes the most sense: she did know BK, she did know MJ, this did happen to her, she is telling the truth.

To follow up on this post: Gorsuch is ALSO a GP alumnus her age. She could have picked him to lie about, right? She could have named him way back when she told her husband about this, in the event Gorsuch got nominated. He was also in the news, someone who worked for a Republican president in the DOJ. But then her story wouldn't have rung true, because there is no evidence he was a hard drinker with a pattern of loutish behavior.

So how did she zero in on BK to lie about, if you believe she lied?

I want to hear Kavanaugh supporters come here and explain this.

I think this is the strongest argument for Ford.

Still, even the "strongest" argument is uncorroborated testimony, including from the witnesses who were present at the house.

I view it as unproven, and unprovable. Thus, I give benefit of doubt/presumption to Kavanaugh.

You are using corroboration like you know what it means. Her testimony is NOT uncorroborated.

You can see you still aren't sure but her testimony WAS corroborated. Not just with HER corroboration, but also with his (his calendar).

I do know what the word means.

You are free to believe what you want, but that calendar does not prove her allegations even remotely. It doesn't corroborate them either insofar as they witnesses deny she was at that event.

You need to acknowledge the arguments on both sides. Otherwise, you are just a hack.

Says the Republican hack. It isn’t even close to being a tie, he lied throughout most of his testimony. Easily demonstrated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Akin Gump partner who has text messages that may show that Bart lied about his knowledge of Debbie Ramirez and a wedding they both attended, STILL has not heard from the FBI.
This is her letter of this morning that was shared with me on FB.

From: Kerry Berchem
Date: October 3, 2018 at 6:23:28 AM EDT
To: "--------. (DO) (FBI)"
Subject: FOLLOWING UP AGAIN Urgent: Ramirez Allegations
Agent ---------,
I appreciate your email below advising me to call the field office. Indeed, in addition to my sending you several emails below and logging into the PAL portal twice and having a representative speak with the New Haven CT field office (which advised that they had no jurisdiction), I called the Bridgeport CT FBI field office Monday at 9:45 am. I spoke with and left messages with three (3) different people.
I suppose you know this already but no one called me back. Really? The FBI is so busy that it cannot spare one agent to call me back? How can th]}e FBI - or anyone else for that matter - conclude that the information that I have and the questions they pose are without merit if they have not been answered? I do not know what the texts I have may mean or may not mean. But, then again, neither does the FBI. It hasn’t reviewed them.
In my professional capacity, I have been part of teams that have conducted internal and SEC investigations for public companies. Litigation hold notices go out. Emails and texts are reviewed. People questioned. No stone is unturned.
All I wanted when I reached out to the FBI on Sunday was to perform my civic duty, to have a private discussion with the FBI and to possibly assist in the investigation ordered by President Trump. I believed in “the process.” It is now Wednesday morning, almost three full days since I sent you my draft memorandum, which was subsequently leaked to the press without my permission. Can you offer any explanation - any explanation whatsoever - as to why the FBI has refused to follow up on a “tip” from me, a law abiding, tax paying private citizen?
Regards,
Kerry E. Berchem

COVER UP! SHe is not wrong at all. IT it is ridiculous that they think we will not notice, not care, or forget.

Flake is paying attention. He wanted an actual investigation. Not one just for political cover. He has said this repeatedly.

I'm betting the FBI already has those emails. I think that Kavanaugh addressed the issue in his testimony. They have likely interviewed the individuals involved.

They are not emails. They are texts. And the person in possession of the texts (Berchem) is say that as of today (Wednesday) the FBI has not seen the texts.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the fact that Trump taunted Ford at a rally last night should be an automatic disqualifier for his SCOTUS nominee. At the very least Kavanaugh should show that he has some integrity and withdraw his nomination, saying that it has come too far and the president has sunk too low.

Honestly, I don't think his audience cares that a woman who has suffered as much Dr. Ford has was taunted by Trump. They think it's funny to do this. They applauded and laughed when he taunted her. I felt enraged by it, personally.

There were no consequences when he mocked the disabled reporter, there won't be any for this.

No consequences when he mocked the gold star family either.

Or a POW.

Deplorables eat up the insults.

Will the expose about Trump tax evasions strategies put DT over the edge today?

Honestly I am a Dem and I think the tax thing is an ill-timed annoying distraction. I HATE that NYT is pushing that in the middle of this deliberative process. It has validity--but so inappropriate to release at this time.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the fact that Trump taunted Ford at a rally last night should be an automatic disqualifier for his SCOTUS nominee. At the very least Kavanaugh should show that he has some integrity and withdraw his nomination, saying that it has come too far and the president has sunk too low.

Honestly, I don't think his audience cares that a woman who has suffered as much Dr. Ford has was taunted by Trump. They think it's funny to do this. They applauded and laughed when he taunted her. I felt enraged by it, personally.

There were no consequences when he mocked the disabled reporter, there won't be any for this.

No consequences when he mocked the gold star family either.

Or a POW.

Deplorables eat up the insults.

Will the expose about Trump tax evasions strategies put DT over the edge today?

Honestly I am a Dem and I think the tax thing is an ill-timed annoying distraction. I HATE that NYT is pushing that in the middle of this deliberative process. It has validity--but so inappropriate to release at this time.

I thought this too but maybe it's worthwhile for people to know an actual crook is on the verge of getting his second supreme court slot filled

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

I agree that they are likely horrified. I disagree about why. I doubt any of them had this kind of background (even Thomas) that warranted such scrutiny. The issue is the nominee.

He never should have lied about the drinking. He was trying to avoid any possibility that he could have attacked Ford and not remembered, but he just looks ridiculous now. I mean, FFS, he pledged a fraternity and was involved in bar fights. Did he really think nobody would speak up?

Yep, this.

#LeftyLies
He was not “involved in bar fights.” He happened to be present.
He never lied about his drinking.
He did not attack Ford.

The only truth you have stated is that he pledged a fraternity.

You sound desperate. You are just making stuff up. And adding hashtags.

I'm still waiting for your summary of CBFs lies, by the way.

I wasn’t the one who said she lied. But, since you asked. I do believe she made up the whole story. I didn’t believe that at first, but as more is revealed, I do now.
And, given her former boyfriend’s letter to officials, it seems she did lie regarding her fear of flying and her coaching of a friend on a polygraph. She lied to her former boyfriend about credit card charges. Why not now?

Can you explain how she knew that 1) Brett Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker/hard partier in high school/college and 2) that Mike Judge was a heavy drinker/hard partier and 3) that BK and MJ were best friends -- how did she figure this all out years ago so that she could start telling her story about the two in case BK ever got nominated for SCOTUS and she got called to testify against him?

Not one single pro-BK poster has come here to eplain how Ford figured all this out. Because otherwise it's a great coincidence, is it not, that the person she picked to lie about just happened to be a hard-drinking lout in high school and college and had a best buddy who was also a hard-drinking lout. She had to have done serious research to find this out so that she could make her lies ring true. Please explain. The notion that she saw his name in the paper in 2012 when he was nominated for a judgeship, saw he was about her age and went to GT Prep, and then started researching and somehow discovered he was a huge drinker and had a best friend named Mike Judge who was also a drinker, so then she started telling her tale in the event she could use it, is too incredible to believe. She would have had to talk to others whom BK acknowledges he knows to find all this out. Where are those people saying she called or wrote them asking for dirt on him? So far haven't heard anyone come forward and say, hey CBF contacted me in 2012 asking if I knew BK and what was he like.

To me the simple solution to this question is the one that makes the most sense: she did know BK, she did know MJ, this did happen to her, she is telling the truth.

She read Mark Judge's novel. It's all in there, the Safeway job ...

We don't have her 2012 therapists notes. We don't know what's in there. One thing is certain Kavanaugh's name was not mentioned in the notes.

How did she know to even read Judge’s book? It’s not like it was a best seller. How did she know that Bart O’Kavanaugh was actually some guy named Brett Kavanaugh who was now a conservative lawyer/ judge or on his way to becoming a judge so therefore she picked him to be the target of her wiley ways?

I mean you guys have a lot to explain here, how this all came about and fell into place so smoothly if she didn’t know both BK and MJ. Come on now - if she were completely lying why didn’t she tell more people, why didn’t she name him to her therapist if she wanted to concoct a story? It seems like one of the reasons you don’t believe her is because she didn’t name him during her therapy sessions. So if she had been concocting this elaborate ruse for years, don’t you think she would have made it more blatant? Answer me this.

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Good points by Pp above but no point even debating them in good faith

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I don't think the BK supporters even take their own arguments seriously

They are just on here to rile people up with their ridiculous claims and laugh as people waste their time trying to talk sense into them

[Anonymous]

"He is 1 of 9 judges. Do four other judges believe the same thing? I doubt that is the case. But if they did that would mean his belief is not out of the norm. People are way overplaying the Kav belief that a sitting President cannot be indicted because he will not be ruling on any cases individually. If RBG and/or Breyer passed or retired and DT was trying to fill their seats with someone with the same views, I would be concerned. One guy on the SCOTUS is not a get out of jail free card."

Really? In an otherwise balanced decision on Presidential protection which could be framed in a way that would give Trump the benefit of the doubt, Kav absolutely would vote in a politically biased way that would tip the court into a victory for Trumpnuts. An openly biased justice, is a bad justice.

Kav is not worthy of a position Supreme Court.

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Ignoring the loons:

Do you think that the name "Brett" will descend on the SS ranking below the 749 it was this year? It has been on steady decline, will it decline even faster?

Do you think women will be more concerned with marrying men with questionable backgrounds now? He was 10 yrs older than his wife, and still a 'bro' with weekend trips with his friends, and obviously still a lot of alcohol.

I don't think anyone thinks they are marrying someone who raped or tried to rape someone, but a lot of women overlook hard partying in the past. I wonder if this will change.

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Anonymous wrote:Ford's ex-boyfriend has no reason to lie.

What's his name?

Let's remember that Ford's father was a career CIA employee.

You've cracked the case! I'll bet the plot was hatched in the Comet Ping-Pong basement. First, we place birth announcements for a Kenyan boy in August 1961 editions of the Honolulu Advertiser & the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Next we recruit a Ph.D. in educational psychology to falsely report an assault to her therapist in 2012. We'll promise her a *free* polygraph test if she cooperates. Diabolical!

+1 This is crazy. She's the alleged victim and her whole life is being dragged through the gutter. She is a well-off highly qualified professial. She has NOTHING to gain from exposing herself to this scrutiny and Kavanaugh has every reason to lie.

Shallow people want attention and validation, just look at Trump. What does he gain from becoming President?

Grift. Has anyone offered him a free polygraph test?

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Anonymous wrote:"He is 1 of 9 judges. Do four other judges believe the same thing? I doubt that is the case. But if they did that would mean his belief is not out of the norm. People are way overplaying the Kav belief that a sitting President cannot be indicted because he will not be ruling on any cases individually. If RBG and/or Breyer passed or retired and DT was trying to fill their seats with someone with the same views, I would be concerned. One guy on the SCOTUS is not a get out of jail free card."

Really? In an otherwise balanced decision on Presidential protection which could be framed in a way that would give Trump the benefit of the doubt, Kav absolutely would vote in a politically biased way that would tip the court into a victory for Trumpnuts. An openly biased justice, is a bad justice.

Kav is not worthy of a position Supreme Court.

Not to mention, any one of the other Justices could retire or die at a moment's notice.