Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

Totally.

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

Look, she was the one who went to The NY Times and started all of this, she wanted a public reaction. And if it turns out her claims are fabricated as it currently appears, she deserves the negative attention

Her claims are fabricated? Is that a fact? You just make things up as you go along. None of this has been decided, as a matter of fact.

Again, we aren’t deciding a motion to dismiss, this is a discussion board. Some of the allegations in her complaint are directly contradicted by her own texts. To me, that is compelling evidence that her claims are bullshit. YMMV

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

Look, she was the one who went to The NY Times and started all of this, she wanted a public reaction. And if it turns out her claims are fabricated as it currently appears, she deserves the negative attention

Her claims are fabricated? Is that a fact? You just make things up as you go along. None of this has been decided, as a matter of fact.

Again, we aren’t deciding a motion to dismiss, this is a discussion board. Some of the allegations in her complaint are directly contradicted by her own texts. To me, that is compelling evidence that her claims are bullshit. YMMV

Well you just convinced us all! How much does JB pay you to carry his water?

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

Exactly! Sometimes, women are more hateful in pen. Their jealousy and desire to uphold the patriarchy stand in the way.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

Look, she was the one who went to The NY Times and started all of this, she wanted a public reaction. And if it turns out her claims are fabricated as it currently appears, she deserves the negative attention

Her claims are fabricated? Is that a fact? You just make things up as you go along. None of this has been decided, as a matter of fact.

Again, we aren’t deciding a motion to dismiss, this is a discussion board. Some of the allegations in her complaint are directly contradicted by her own texts. To me, that is compelling evidence that her claims are bullshit. YMMV

Well you just convinced us all! How much does JB pay you to carry his water?

If anyone is being paid for their time on this thread, I think we all know who that is, and it certainly isn’t me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

Exactly! Sometimes, women are more hateful in pen. Their jealousy and desire to uphold the patriarchy stand in the way.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

It’s also gross to make up sexual harassment claims as part of a power play.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

Look, she was the one who went to The NY Times and started all of this, she wanted a public reaction. And if it turns out her claims are fabricated as it currently appears, she deserves the negative attention

We all know there is no way you will ever not be Team Blake.

Her claims are fabricated? Is that a fact? You just make things up as you go along. None of this has been decided, as a matter of fact.

Again, we aren’t deciding a motion to dismiss, this is a discussion board. Some of the allegations in her complaint are directly contradicted by her own texts. To me, that is compelling evidence that her claims are bullshit. YMMV

Well you just convinced us all! How much does JB pay you to carry his water?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

Exactly! Sometimes, women are more hateful in pen. Their jealousy and desire to uphold the patriarchy stand in the way.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

It’s also gross to make up sexual harassment claims as part of a power play.

When that's proven then that would be appropriate but we're not even close to that point now. People think they know, but they have no idea.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

Look, she was the one who went to The NY Times and started all of this, she wanted a public reaction. And if it turns out her claims are fabricated as it currently appears, she deserves the negative attention

Her claims are fabricated? Is that a fact? You just make things up as you go along. None of this has been decided, as a matter of fact.

Again, we aren’t deciding a motion to dismiss, this is a discussion board. Some of the allegations in her complaint are directly contradicted by her own texts. To me, that is compelling evidence that her claims are bullshit. YMMV

Well you just convinced us all! How much does JB pay you to carry his water?

If anyone is being paid for their time on this thread, I think we all know who that is, and it certainly isn’t me.

I'd have no problem admitting to being paid to advocate for women, but I do it for free. What you're doing, tearing down women for sport, is shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting reddit post from four months ago, but at that time it is hard to know if it is a PR plant (the same person posted the same comment a couple of times).The most interesting part to me is that Blake was talking about going to the NY Times months ago (prior to obtaining the text messages and evidence of smear campaign?)

https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/s/5gDvrprhq8

Thanks, that was interesting. Really shows how insidious this all is.

If I'd read that first, when the Lively lawsuit story broke out I'd be primed to think "oh, I heard about that, he called her sexy and then she threatened to cry harassment if they didn't go with her edit." Most people won't read the full complaint or even articles, just headlines.

Having read this after I've seen the lawsuit, naturally I'm thinking "ok, he harassed her and they wanted to get ahead of the story and plant seeds of doubt for when the inevitable hit."

But which is right? I'm still tending to go with the second version, because the lawsuit literally cites texts from Abel and Nathan discussing getting ahead of the story and creating alternate theories using reddit, so that's more credible than an anonymous reddit poster (but of course, that poster is using a throwaway account because they are spilling inside dirt - which is both what an actual insider and a paid troll would do!).

These are some citations from her complaint that seem relevant. Of course, Baldoni may have some other compelling evidence that disputes this. We'll see.

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Blake-Lively-NY-Lawsuit.pdf

9. On July 31, 2024, following the recommendation of their publicist, Jennifer
Abel, Wayfarer and Mr. Baldoni retained a crisis communications specialist named Melissa
Nathan, and her company The Agency Group PR LLC (“TAG”). Ms. Nathan delivered a proposal
to Mr. Baldoni, which included “[a] website (to discuss), full reddit, full social account take downs,
full social crisis team on hand for anything – engage with audiences in the right way, start threads
of theories (discuss) this is the way to be fully 100% protected.” Ms. Nathan also proposed the
“creation of social fan engagement to go back and forth with any negative accounts, helping to
change [sic] narrative and stay on track.” Per Ms. Nathan, “All of this will be most importantly
untraceable.” As Ms. Abel described it, the plan was to engage in “social media mitigation and
proactive fan posting to counter the negative” as well as “social manipulation.”3

10. This plan went well beyond standard crisis PR. What Ms. Nathan proposed
included a practice known as “Astroturfing,” which has been defined as “the practice of publishing
opinions or comments on the internet, in the media, etc. that appear to come from ordinary
members of the public but actually come from a particular company or political group.”4

11. On August 2, 2024, TAG circulated a “SCENARIO PLANNING”
document to Mr. Baldoni, Mr. Heath, and others, which described preparations and strategy
“should [Ms. Lively] and her team make her grievances public” (the “Scenario Planning
Document”), and is attached hereto as Exhibit D. To “get ahead of this narrative,” Ms. Nathan’s
plan proposed strategies to advance misleading counternarratives, including pushing Ms. Nathan’s
narrative that Ms. Lively had “less than favorable reputation,” proposing to “explore planting
stories about the weaponization of feminism…,” and misleadingly blaming Ms. Lively for
production members’ job losses.

16. Ms. Abel responded that she had just “spoke[n] to Melissa about this…
about what we discussed last night for social and digital.” Ms. Abel added, “Focus on reddit,
TikTok, IG.” With reassurance that Ms. Lively would be “destroy[ed]” and “buried,” Wayfarer
Case 1:24-cv-10049 Document 1 Filed 12/31/24 Page 9 of 93Deadline

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

Exactly! Sometimes, women are more hateful in pen. Their jealousy and desire to uphold the patriarchy stand in the way.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

It’s also gross to make up sexual harassment claims as part of a power play.

When that's proven then that would be appropriate but we're not even close to that point now. People think they know, but they have no idea.

Just because you chose to ignore evidence that contradicts Blake, doesn’t mean the rest of us do.

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

Exactly! Sometimes, women are more hateful in pen. Their jealousy and desire to uphold the patriarchy stand in the way.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

It’s also gross to make up sexual harassment claims as part of a power play.

When that's proven then that would be appropriate but we're not even close to that point now. People think they know, but they have no idea.

Just because you chose to ignore evidence that contradicts Blake, doesn’t mean the rest of us do.

I'm willing to say at best we don't know. But I'm not running around shrieking about a Harvey Girl, trollop etc. I don't even see anyone digging in on Justin in such a vile way. The hate directed toward Blake is obscene.

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Anonymous wrote:And again, if Blake had just apologized to the reporter instead of doubling down about how she was victimized, people would view her much more favorably. But, as we have learned, Blake is never wrong.

Show us on the doll where Blake hurt you.

Dp, but there are many interviews where she is completely obnoxious to the person conducting the interview. I suppose that is also all Justin’s fault.

Meanwhile moguls are out there raping and drugging women and get few comments. But oh no, a woman was obnoxious!

So start a thread fof them. The topic of this thread is Blake Lively.

Exactly! Sometimes, women are more hateful in pen. Their jealousy and desire to uphold the patriarchy stand in the way.

It's ok to point out the misogyny of maligning women for minor offenses while men's crimes with actual victims get barely a mention. it's a discussion forum, remember? It's gross.

It’s also gross to make up sexual harassment claims as part of a power play.

When that's proven then that would be appropriate but we're not even close to that point now. People think they know, but they have no idea.

Just because you chose to ignore evidence that contradicts Blake, doesn’t mean the rest of us do.

Baldoni has 2-3 things that contradict some minor points of Lively's dozens of claims. That's not the same thing as proving that she made everything up. She might have made everything up, but if she did, that's certainly not been established thus far.