Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

[Anonymous]

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

Safety? with their kids on those awful back roads or I66?

Their kids are currently at Carson. Why do they think the high school would be less safe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

[Anonymous]

Also in that meeting those people said they would happily drive their kids to school, so I think we should take them up on that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

[Anonymous]

So, they said the school would not be safe and no one from FCPS pushed back?

So, their kids can be "safe" but other kids cannot?

[Anonymous]

Why did the School Board set objective standards for the boundary review, and then ignore them.
Why would they listen to a group who is giving only entitled opinions to stay put, when all the objective measures would put them in the new school?


It makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did the School Board set objective standards for the boundary review, and then ignore them.
Why would they listen to a group who is giving only entitled opinions to stay put, when all the objective measures would put them in the new school?


It makes no sense.

Don’t be dense. Families don’t want to move. This ain’t that hard. If you need a refresher, go look at all the community feedback received over the last year and a half.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I am sure a good number signed it happily but some did it out of social pressure. It’s awkward when you have people sending you the link asking you to sign, and asking you to your face if you have signed it. Some people just want to avoid the drama. There are families who signed it who are in fact open to the new school.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I am sure a good number signed it happily but some did it out of social pressure. It’s awkward when you have people sending you the link asking you to sign, and asking you to your face if you have signed it. Some people just want to avoid the drama. There are families who signed it who are in fact open to the new school.

Open or want their neighborhoods rezoned to the new school? I think those are different.