Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I am sure a good number signed it happily but some did it out of social pressure. It’s awkward when you have people sending you the link asking you to sign, and asking you to your face if you have signed it. Some people just want to avoid the drama. There are families who signed it who are in fact open to the new school.

Open or want their neighborhoods rezoned to the new school? I think those are different.

They are different. Most I have talked to say they are open to it due to proximity, but they also want to learn more about what it will be like in terms of offerings. Many are hopeful it will be a good place a few years from now. That is also a different position than being vehemently anti Western now and forever, which the RIO people clearly are. I think that’s why you aren’t seeing a big movement of people saying “Please rezone us!”. It’s more like “Can you tell us more and in the meantime can our neighbors stop acting like all of us are not wanting to be rezoned ever under any circumstances, because right now there is just not enough info to make a decision either way”. Unfortunately the school board want to rush this and seems to like making decisions around who throws the biggest fit. It’s not realistic to expect too many people to be all “rah-rah Western”without knowing more. I think it’s also unfair of neighbors to outright dismiss what could be a good long term solution. I think everyone involved deserves to have more info before the school board makes a final boundary decision.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Look at the names though, I don't recognize any of them - it is some Crossfield families but also a LOT of Navy parents and parents of Oakton high schoolers signing. It's not like the entire Crossfield community signed it. I've asked my friends - none of them have signed it. All of my friends (we have 4th and younger) want our kids to go to Western.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I am sure a good number signed it happily but some did it out of social pressure. It’s awkward when you have people sending you the link asking you to sign, and asking you to your face if you have signed it. Some people just want to avoid the drama. There are families who signed it who are in fact open to the new school.

Well that's just stupid. When a PTO Board member asked me to sign, I said "nope, I don't do change.org petitions" and went on my merry way. That said, I don't openly talk about wanting my kid to go to Western when I'm around some of these families. I just nod and smile.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I am sure a good number signed it happily but some did it out of social pressure. It’s awkward when you have people sending you the link asking you to sign, and asking you to your face if you have signed it. Some people just want to avoid the drama. There are families who signed it who are in fact open to the new school.

Open or want their neighborhoods rezoned to the new school? I think those are different.

They are different. Most I have talked to say they are open to it due to proximity, but they also want to learn more about what it will be like in terms of offerings. Many are hopeful it will be a good place a few years from now. That is also a different position than being vehemently anti Western now and forever, which the RIO people clearly are. I think that’s why you aren’t seeing a big movement of people saying “Please rezone us!”. It’s more like “Can you tell us more and in the meantime can our neighbors stop acting like all of us are not wanting to be rezoned ever under any circumstances, because right now there is just not enough info to make a decision either way”. Unfortunately the school board want to rush this and seems to like making decisions around who throws the biggest fit. It’s not realistic to expect too many people to be all “rah-rah Western”without knowing more. I think it’s also unfair of neighbors to outright dismiss what could be a good long term solution. I think everyone involved deserves to have more info before the school board makes a final boundary decision.

THIS. As the parent of younger children at Crossfield, I resent that parents of middle schoolers and high schoolers are trying to make this decision for us. Yes, I know other families with younger children who are part of RIO, but they are part of the PTO clique.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I am sure a good number signed it happily but some did it out of social pressure. It’s awkward when you have people sending you the link asking you to sign, and asking you to your face if you have signed it. Some people just want to avoid the drama. There are families who signed it who are in fact open to the new school.

Open or want their neighborhoods rezoned to the new school? I think those are different.

They are different. Most I have talked to say they are open to it due to proximity, but they also want to learn more about what it will be like in terms of offerings. Many are hopeful it will be a good place a few years from now. That is also a different position than being vehemently anti Western now and forever, which the RIO people clearly are. I think that’s why you aren’t seeing a big movement of people saying “Please rezone us!”. It’s more like “Can you tell us more and in the meantime can our neighbors stop acting like all of us are not wanting to be rezoned ever under any circumstances, because right now there is just not enough info to make a decision either way”. Unfortunately the school board want to rush this and seems to like making decisions around who throws the biggest fit. It’s not realistic to expect too many people to be all “rah-rah Western”without knowing more. I think it’s also unfair of neighbors to outright dismiss what could be a good long term solution. I think everyone involved deserves to have more info before the school board makes a final boundary decision.

If the commute is such a burden, people should be all "rah-rah Western."

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

So no community should be moved to any school if they have loud enough complainers? This doesn't seem like a feasible policy.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

So no community should be moved to any school if they have loud enough complainers? This doesn't seem like a feasible policy.

Guess you haven't heard about 2 other schools in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

Why, so you can reap the benefits of a fully developed school, while my kids have a sub par experience having to be bussed to other schools for sports and lacking a full set of activites.

It sucks for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

And yet those are the kids immediately impacted. They are the kids been asked to move to a school without sports or activities or programs. We are opting in but we have a kid who is not likely to play varsity sports in HS and who is excited to start the clubs they are interested in. We also are moving from an IB school to an AP school, there feels like less academic risk.

But asking parents who know that they are at an academically strong school to move to a school with nothing there is a big ask. We were looking at pupil placing before all this because we wanted the academic program at a place like Oakton. It will look very different by the time the kids in early ES get to Western because the core will have been established and you can see that. But asking the parents of 5th and 6th graders to be excited to move to something new when they are at a place that is so well established is hard.

I don't know too many really excited parents from Oak Hill, I think there is more a sense that there is no point in really objecting because they are too close and Chantilly is overcrowded. But the parents of kids I know in 6th grade at Oak Hill are not exactly excited. There are parents at SLHS who are not interested in moving for the same reason as the Oakton families. They are fine with IB and are worried about the lack of sports or theatre for a school with none of that.

What some people see as a positive in 5-10 years is a risk for the ones taking it on now. And I get that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

And yet those are the kids immediately impacted. They are the kids been asked to move to a school without sports or activities or programs. We are opting in but we have a kid who is not likely to play varsity sports in HS and who is excited to start the clubs they are interested in. We also are moving from an IB school to an AP school, there feels like less academic risk.

But asking parents who know that they are at an academically strong school to move to a school with nothing there is a big ask. We were looking at pupil placing before all this because we wanted the academic program at a place like Oakton. It will look very different by the time the kids in early ES get to Western because the core will have been established and you can see that. But asking the parents of 5th and 6th graders to be excited to move to something new when they are at a place that is so well established is hard.

I don't know too many really excited parents from Oak Hill, I think there is more a sense that there is no point in really objecting because they are too close and Chantilly is overcrowded. But the parents of kids I know in 6th grade at Oak Hill are not exactly excited. There are parents at SLHS who are not interested in moving for the same reason as the Oakton families. They are fine with IB and are worried about the lack of sports or theatre for a school with none of that.

What some people see as a positive in 5-10 years is a risk for the ones taking it on now. And I get that.

Too much uncertainty inthe roll out. What should be great, exciting, and positive has been corrupted by the vagueness of it all.

If they had set the boundary already--which shoud have been done--the story would be different.

And, the RIO people are ridiculous, They have become the new Great Falls/Langley.

The boundary should be selected on objective standards. What is objective about RIO? They don't think Oak Hill kids are also concerned about sports? They think the new school will be less than Carson?
Their objections are laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

And yet those are the kids immediately impacted. They are the kids been asked to move to a school without sports or activities or programs. We are opting in but we have a kid who is not likely to play varsity sports in HS and who is excited to start the clubs they are interested in. We also are moving from an IB school to an AP school, there feels like less academic risk.

But asking parents who know that they are at an academically strong school to move to a school with nothing there is a big ask. We were looking at pupil placing before all this because we wanted the academic program at a place like Oakton. It will look very different by the time the kids in early ES get to Western because the core will have been established and you can see that. But asking the parents of 5th and 6th graders to be excited to move to something new when they are at a place that is so well established is hard.

I don't know too many really excited parents from Oak Hill, I think there is more a sense that there is no point in really objecting because they are too close and Chantilly is overcrowded. But the parents of kids I know in 6th grade at Oak Hill are not exactly excited. There are parents at SLHS who are not interested in moving for the same reason as the Oakton families. They are fine with IB and are worried about the lack of sports or theatre for a school with none of that.

What some people see as a positive in 5-10 years is a risk for the ones taking it on now. And I get that.

I have a 6th grader and have talked to multiple parents of 6th graders who are not freaking out at the possibility of attending the new school. They are probably the first group who would have to attend if in boundary. It’s the parents of current middle and high schoolers who are freaking out, when their kids won’t be forced to go there. The kids who want to be there will be the ones who are there when it’s less established.

It’s not about the school being less established for a lot of the Crossfield people. It’s who will end up going there compared to who attends Oakton. Do not let them fool you.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

And yet those are the kids immediately impacted. They are the kids been asked to move to a school without sports or activities or programs. We are opting in but we have a kid who is not likely to play varsity sports in HS and who is excited to start the clubs they are interested in. We also are moving from an IB school to an AP school, there feels like less academic risk.

But asking parents who know that they are at an academically strong school to move to a school with nothing there is a big ask. We were looking at pupil placing before all this because we wanted the academic program at a place like Oakton. It will look very different by the time the kids in early ES get to Western because the core will have been established and you can see that. But asking the parents of 5th and 6th graders to be excited to move to something new when they are at a place that is so well established is hard.

I don't know too many really excited parents from Oak Hill, I think there is more a sense that there is no point in really objecting because they are too close and Chantilly is overcrowded. But the parents of kids I know in 6th grade at Oak Hill are not exactly excited. There are parents at SLHS who are not interested in moving for the same reason as the Oakton families. They are fine with IB and are worried about the lack of sports or theatre for a school with none of that.

What some people see as a positive in 5-10 years is a risk for the ones taking it on now. And I get that.

I have a 6th grader and have talked to multiple parents of 6th graders who are not freaking out at the possibility of attending the new school. They are probably the first group who would have to attend if in boundary. It’s the parents of current middle and high schoolers who are freaking out, when their kids won’t be forced to go there. The kids who want to be there will be the ones who are there when it’s less established.

It’s not about the school being less established for a lot of the Crossfield people. It’s who will end up going there compared to who attends Oakton. Do not let them fool you.

No, some of us with younger kids disagree with you. You're speculating based on the people you know. Many parents with younger kids want to stay at Oakton too.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most in the area are excited about having a school. I also think a lot of Crossfield people would like to go there, but you have people like the speakers the other night that make it about their own opinions. Using the pandemic as an excuse and construction at Crossfield as a reason to stay at Oakton? When the distance to Oakton is at least twice as long and very, very difficult. 66 or windy roads.

It’s not only the two speakers from Crossfield. If you joined the community meeting between the School Board members and the Crossfield families, you would see most of the families want to stay at Oakton.

The speakers chose to speak up because that’s what the board member suggested.

That's not true actually, it's just that everyone is too scared to speak up at a meeting where the entire PTO and all the room moms are present and going on and on about safety.

I find it hard to believe these people have so much power if they are in fact the minority. How many people were at this meeting?

Maybe 30 and everyone who talked has older kids.

So let’s say 5 people spoke…the other 25 were that fearful they sat there in silence? If that’s the case how could you ever expect the board to know anyone at Crossfield wants to move to Western? What’s the repercussion for people speaking up? If it’s the choice between I guess being an outsider vs. having your kids travel on what you say is an unsafe bus ride (I have no firsthand knowledge). I think one outweighs the other.

You are using flawed logic. That meeting was set up by the Crossfield PTO whose leadership has made their position very clear. Why would someone with a different view feel comfortable speaking out when they know that the people who organized the meeting did so specifically to fight back on the potential change? Let’s not pretend it was some neutral meeting set up as a forum to hear all viewpoints.

If you don’t know the people involved you probably don’t understand the social dynamics at play. I do. They are pressuring people to sign their petition. I wouldn’t feel comfortable speaking up either. I have seen them be outright hostile towards people with a different opinion from them on much more minor topics, let alone something like this. Why would someone want to deal with that at school, in the neighborhood, at sports, etc?

Believe me, when people with elementary schoolers and younger have one on one conversations they are expressing openness to attending the new school. But the people who are open to it aren’t the types who loudly complain in order to get what they want in life. It’s partly a personality thing.

I’m sorry but it’s not about feeling comfortable it’s about doing what you think is right. How many people have signed this petition? 50-75? Then create your own and send it to the board as it sounds like you’d more than exceed whatever number they have.

The crossfield petition is edging in on 600 people.

It's wildly popular.

Wow…okay, so 600 people were pressured to sign a petition then? Come on. The board should not care but clearly that community wants to stay at Oakton.

I think the board will look at opt-in numbers. Crossfield will most likely stay at Oakton.

Once again, it's not fair to make this decision based on parents of current middle and high schoolers.

And yet those are the kids immediately impacted. They are the kids been asked to move to a school without sports or activities or programs. We are opting in but we have a kid who is not likely to play varsity sports in HS and who is excited to start the clubs they are interested in. We also are moving from an IB school to an AP school, there feels like less academic risk.

But asking parents who know that they are at an academically strong school to move to a school with nothing there is a big ask. We were looking at pupil placing before all this because we wanted the academic program at a place like Oakton. It will look very different by the time the kids in early ES get to Western because the core will have been established and you can see that. But asking the parents of 5th and 6th graders to be excited to move to something new when they are at a place that is so well established is hard.

I don't know too many really excited parents from Oak Hill, I think there is more a sense that there is no point in really objecting because they are too close and Chantilly is overcrowded. But the parents of kids I know in 6th grade at Oak Hill are not exactly excited. There are parents at SLHS who are not interested in moving for the same reason as the Oakton families. They are fine with IB and are worried about the lack of sports or theatre for a school with none of that.

What some people see as a positive in 5-10 years is a risk for the ones taking it on now. And I get that.

I have a 6th grader and have talked to multiple parents of 6th graders who are not freaking out at the possibility of attending the new school. They are probably the first group who would have to attend if in boundary. It’s the parents of current middle and high schoolers who are freaking out, when their kids won’t be forced to go there. The kids who want to be there will be the ones who are there when it’s less established.

It’s not about the school being less established for a lot of the Crossfield people. It’s who will end up going there compared to who attends Oakton. Do not let them fool you.

No, some of us with younger kids disagree with you. You're speculating based on the people you know. Many parents with younger kids want to stay at Oakton too.

If your kids are younger, you can't argue that the school won't be established by the time your kids attend. So you admit that the school is fine for other kids but not yours. At least own that.