Sean “Diddy” Combs accused of gang rape of teen girl in new lawsuit

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Anonymous wrote:The defense is playing dirty. The judge just abruptly asked for recess after less than an hour of cross examination.
I'm sure they are playing dirty, I think that's to be expected. But I'm not following, how does their asking for a recess make it a dirty move?
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Anonymous wrote:The defense is playing dirty. The judge just abruptly asked for recess after less than an hour of cross examination.
I'm sure they are playing dirty, I think that's to be expected. But I'm not following, how does their asking for a recess make it a dirty move?


The defense did not ask for a recess, the judge did abruptly because of “evidence” the defense was showing. We don’t know why it upset the judge at this point, but Cassie was whispering something to him.
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Anonymous wrote:The defense is playing dirty. The judge just abruptly asked for recess after less than an hour of cross examination.
I'm sure they are playing dirty, I think that's to be expected. But I'm not following, how does their asking for a recess make it a dirty move?


The defense did not ask for a recess, the judge did abruptly because of “evidence” the defense was showing. We don’t know why it upset the judge at this point, but Cassie was whispering something to him.

Was it evidence that was supposed to be excluded?
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Anonymous wrote:He’s guilty as sin. The attempt to malign the victims as gold diggers is transparent and irrelevant to this case. The DA is not a gold digger and is committed to seeking justice. They don’t need PR plants online. They took their time to bring this to trial. They have the evidence to convict.


You've decided his guilt already?


Yes, I can do that. I’m not on a jury. It’s called forming an opinion. You will not find sympathy for this man on DCUM. Better to peddle your wares on another site.


Ha, just for that I hope he gets off.
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Anonymous wrote:To the left to the left, to the right, to the right.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s guilty as sin. The attempt to malign the victims as gold diggers is transparent and irrelevant to this case. The DA is not a gold digger and is committed to seeking justice. They don’t need PR plants online. They took their time to bring this to trial. They have the evidence to convict.


You've decided his guilt already?


Yes, I can do that. I’m not on a jury. It’s called forming an opinion. You will not find sympathy for this man on DCUM. Better to peddle your wares on another site.


Ha, just for that I hope he gets off.
Just for what? For someone having an opinion? Weirdo. smh
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Anonymous wrote:What is going to go on for 8 weeks? Just more of the same? More victims? His employees being called? Who will the defense even put forward as a witness to say this is all consensual and nothing to see here?


You (and many other posters) don’t seem to understand the charges.

Racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution. Between 2008 and 2024, it is alleged that Combs abused, threatened multiple people and led a racketeering conspiracy that engaged in sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, bribery and obstruction of justice.

Consent to prostitution is not a defense. Consent to being sex trafficked is also not a defense. Funding and instructing others to engage in organizing sex trafficking and freak off parties is not a defense. Combs alleging I told Cassie to order the hookers, arrange their transportation and pay them and she willingly did it and then we all had our freak off and she consented (according to him) isn’t a defense.

The very act of hiring prostitutes, and arranging their transportation is the definition of sex trafficking. So you may not like Cassie or her testimony or think she got what she deserved (WTF) but Combs was the ringleader and he’s guilty.

More explanation of the charges can be found here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/sean-combs-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-and-other-federal-offenses


+1

Shaking my head at some of these posts.


Good for some of you that you understand the legalities of all this. Really thanks for sharing your knowledge even if it comes with a side of condescension. So far it hasn’t been explained in the trial and people are casual observers.


I am not apologizing for being educated.

Racketeering often comes up with organized crime and the mafia. So think of Sean Combs as a mafia/mob boss who delegates tasks and organizes money with other people to commit crimes. If people do not do what the mob boss wants, that boss might use force/coercion/blackmail to get them to comply. Or he might beat them. Think the Departed or the Godfather. The boss says do what I say. You say no, boss beats the crap out of you. You say I want to leave, the boss locks the door. The boss hands you a drink that you don't know is laced with drugs and now you physically can't leave or consent to anything after that.

A conspiracy is an agreement between people to plan to act. So Combs is charged with leading a racketeering conspiracy. He is the mob boss of the organized crime of arranging and transporting sex trafficking. Cassie's testimony provides evidence that Combs hired prostitutes, instructed her to hire them, coerced her to engage in this organization through force (beating), threats (I will show your mother videos) and other blackmail. Her testimony is 100% relevant.

Please educate yourself. I don't care if I am condescending. It is dangerous to spread misinformation, especially about topics like this.


You should apologize for being kind of a douche nozzle.

Some people on this thread are asking good legal and procedural questions, which sorry is that not the point of a board like this? But your choice is to berate people and make them feel stupid.

If you don’t like the victim shaming posts, which I don’t either, respond to those directly. People asking legal questions seems in bounds to me.


I am responding to victim shaming posters and people who make no effort to read about the charges and yet post horrible things about the victims. I am answering legal questions. If only there was a way for posters who don’t initially understand what he’s being charged with could instantly find that information, like from their phone even….. oh yeah, there is.

I don’t care if you or anyone else thinks I’m a “douche nozzle”. What I am not is some sort of victim blamed or enablist for the sick behavior of a predator. Get over yourself. There are probably many more victims out there of Combs than we even know. What is wrong with you?


It's clear you don't care. NP by the way. If you would like to have a conversation with people who are as educated and knowledgeable as you are and fully share your point of view, get off this thread and go look in the mirror and talk. Sick of people like you on this board in general. You are not the arbitr of all things.


What are you even talking about? You’re sick of people explaining what racketeering is and the purpose of Cassie’s testimony? Yikes.


I am talking about the scolidng tone. Please educate yourself. Did you even read such and such? Shaking my head at some of these posts. I don't know if these are all the same people or not. Explain away. It's totally welcome.


I’m not the person who explains racketeering and conspiracy. I asked if the poster read the opening. But was directly in response to the comment that the charges had been not explained at trial.
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Anonymous wrote:He’s guilty as sin. The attempt to malign the victims as gold diggers is transparent and irrelevant to this case. The DA is not a gold digger and is committed to seeking justice. They don’t need PR plants online. They took their time to bring this to trial. They have the evidence to convict.


You've decided his guilt already?


Yes, I can do that. I’m not on a jury. It’s called forming an opinion. You will not find sympathy for this man on DCUM. Better to peddle your wares on another site.


Ha, just for that I hope he gets off.
Just for what? For someone having an opinion? Weirdo. smh


+1 probably someone from Combs' type of world.
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Anonymous wrote:To the left to the left, to the right, to the right.


What does "To the left," etc., mean? I don't get the reference.

The thing that struck me when reading about the freak-offs is that he is a voyeur and masturbates. He set them up so this is his preference. I wonder if he gets off on beating them up too. Probably.
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Anonymous wrote:To the left to the left, to the right, to the right.


What does "To the left," etc., mean? I don't get the reference.

The thing that struck me when reading about the freak-offs is that he is a voyeur and masturbates. He set them up so this is his preference. I wonder if he gets off on beating them up too. Probably.


How old are you out of curiousity? Song from the 90s "Tootsie Roll" that is often played at parties, clubs, weddings, etc even now.

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The judge is not happy with the defense.

U.S. District Judge Arun Subramanian called for a lunchtime recess and asked jurors to return to the courtroom at 1 p.m. ET.

Subramanian told lawyers he wasn't happy with the pace of Ventura's examination because he wants the eight-months-pregnant woman to be done sooner rather than later.

When the defense said they would need all day today and all day tomorrow, Subramanian angrily responded, "That is the exact opposite of what I was told."

"This witness needed to be off the stand by the end of the week so what happened?" the clearly perturbed judge said.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is the link for live updates of court today. Cassie is being cross examined right now.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/sean-diddy-combs-trial-cassie-ventura-lawyers-live-updates-rcna206807


Defense struggles with disjointed cross-examination
Doha Madani

Reporting from New York City

The opening hours of Cassie Ventura’s cross-examination were a bit of a slog, with defense questions jumping around in subject and timeline and frequently interrupted by prosecution objections.

Those starts and stops appeared to hinder Combs’ lawyer, Anna Estevao, from smoothly making the defense’s case that Ventura was often a willing participant in the witness’s seemingly abusive relationship with the defendant.

And Ventura appears to have caught on to the defense’s line of questioning.

She’s often interjected qualifying terms such as “at that time” to frame her relationship with Combs as a complicated one that could toggle between caring and violent.


latest update.
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Anonymous wrote:The judge is not happy with the defense.

U.S. District Judge Arun Subramanian called for a lunchtime recess and asked jurors to return to the courtroom at 1 p.m. ET.

Subramanian told lawyers he wasn't happy with the pace of Ventura's examination because he wants the eight-months-pregnant woman to be done sooner rather than later.

When the defense said they would need all day today and all day tomorrow, Subramanian angrily responded, "That is the exact opposite of what I was told."

"This witness needed to be off the stand by the end of the week so what happened?" the clearly perturbed judge said.


This seems poorly planned. Good crosses are tight and much shorter than direct. Plus dragging out the cross of a very pregnancy witness has a higher chance of making the jury feel for her.
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Anonymous wrote:He’s guilty as sin. The attempt to malign the victims as gold diggers is transparent and irrelevant to this case. The DA is not a gold digger and is committed to seeking justice. They don’t need PR plants online. They took their time to bring this to trial. They have the evidence to convict.


You've decided his guilt already?


Yes, I can do that. I’m not on a jury. It’s called forming an opinion. You will not find sympathy for this man on DCUM. Better to peddle your wares on another site.


I’ve also decided he’s guilty. I don’t see what evidence they could present that suggests otherwise. I hope he rots in prison the rest of his life.
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