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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They can for elementary school but not for MS or HS. MS is going to be a hot mess with covid.

Masks do help and sadly at this point they are the only protection for unvaccinated kids. Not all masks are flimsy. We need a combination of behavior and vaccines to get this under control and protect our kids. But, we have neither.

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There is no option to choose virtual anymore. We’re left with home school or in person. But how can we do home school with both parents working.

I'm sorry, PP, but that's on you. It would have been prudent for you to choose virtual when that was an option. But you didn't, so now you're stuck with the consequences of your decision.

Well the deadline was too early to make a decision. Everything looks very promising in June and vaccine efficacy was reported to be miraculous. Then suddenly in July Israel has outbreaks and breakthrough infections are more and more common. You can’t blame the parents for making decisions based on the situation. Now I just wish MCPS will consider drastically changed situations to accommodate more virtual students.

This again. PP, I'm sorry you were deluded to think Covid was gone, I really do. There was always going to be a risk that your child would get covid in school- since you can't handle any small uptick in risk, it would have been prudent for you to apply just in case, submitting an application itself was not binding.

Call MCPS- you could always lie and say your kid has a new health issue. Otherwise buck up and figure it out- we had to provide a lot of support with virtual learning last year, I don't know that homeschooling would have been any more of a time sink. It would also give you more flexibility.

I did apply. I don't need to lie as it can go by parent health issues, and I have well documented health issues. Its not a small uptick in risk when they are bring large groups of kids together, no testing or other precautions and kids not vaccinated.

So you’re making excuses for others who were too u decided to apply in time? I’m confused.

I had hoped mops would be more responsible with reopening.

What is it you expect them to do? It's five days in-person. There's no more hiding from the virus with hybrid/virtual-for-all nonsense. They'll mask, and that's the new normal (or better than) across the US.

But are masks even effective with the delta variant, given how much more contagious it is? That's a really big assumption.

What are you suggesting? Another year of virtual? That can't happen. It'll never end.

Masks help, but its still an issue. MCPS had a year to make a plan for reopening to make it safe for our unvaccinated kids. I'd like a hybrid or even 1/2 day in person so the groups are smaller.

The reason this isn't going to happen is that it'd double down on the poor educational outcomes from last year and wouldn't work for many (most) families. Are you WFH or a SAHM? People are increasingly return to office buildings now and in fall. Last year was the year of the shutdown. It's not an effective remedy and not in alignment with increasing acceptance that this is as good as it gets.

+1. Also, I don't understand people who are still suggesting hybrid and thinking it would be safer. We both work- do you know where my kids would be the rest of the week if they were only in school 2 days? In a distance learning hub, mingling with a completely different group of kids (and anyone who went to one last year knows the kids were allowed to mingle). Others would be in pods, return to in-home daycares, etc. for those days. Then you have a complex network of kids that could be affected by a positive case.

Your kids are you responsibility. You hire help like the rest of us. Or, you flex your schedule. What do you do in the summer?

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They're still sitting close together in the classroom. I really don't think it matters.

It does according to the CDC but what do they know!

The CDC is still recommending 3 feet, is still recommending distancing, extra cleanings and much more. Everyone is picking and choosing what is important. And, none of it makes sense for our under 12 (and those 12 in the process of getting vaccinated) as in other places its recommended 6 feet and other precautions. Its very concerning they aren't doing quarantining, testing and distancing at MCSP. Its really irresponsible.

I blame Biden as he's gone back to life as normal and keeps denying how serious the situation really is. He's worse than Trump in some ways as Biden should know better. You cannot expect anything of Trump given he had a few screws loose but Biden "should" be protecting our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They're still sitting close together in the classroom. I really don't think it matters.

It does according to the CDC but what do they know!

The CDC is still recommending 3 feet, is still recommending distancing, extra cleanings and much more. Everyone is picking and choosing what is important. And, none of it makes sense for our under 12 (and those 12 in the process of getting vaccinated) as in other places its recommended 6 feet and other precautions. Its very concerning they aren't doing quarantining, testing and distancing at MCSP. Its really irresponsible.

I blame Biden as he's gone back to life as normal and keeps denying how serious the situation really is. He's worse than Trump in some ways as Biden should know better. You cannot expect anything of Trump given he had a few screws loose but Biden "should" be protecting our kids.

It seems having Trump will at least make MCPS more serious about covid.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They're still sitting close together in the classroom. I really don't think it matters.

It does according to the CDC but what do they know!

The CDC is still recommending 3 feet, is still recommending distancing, extra cleanings and much more. Everyone is picking and choosing what is important. And, none of it makes sense for our under 12 (and those 12 in the process of getting vaccinated) as in other places its recommended 6 feet and other precautions. Its very concerning they aren't doing quarantining, testing and distancing at MCSP. Its really irresponsible.

I blame Biden as he's gone back to life as normal and keeps denying how serious the situation really is. He's worse than Trump in some ways as Biden should know better. You cannot expect anything of Trump given he had a few screws loose but Biden "should" be protecting our kids.

Same here. The CDC has made it clear that kids are not a priority. And Biden wants everything back to normal, so we end up with a big mess. While Fauci is out there saying vaccinated people need to mask indoors again.

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Anonymous wrote:Same here. The CDC has made it clear that kids are not a priority. And Biden wants everything back to normal, so we end up with a big mess. While Fauci is out there saying vaccinated people need to mask indoors again.

Where did Fauci say that?

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They cannot come back until they clean house: central office and Board of Education. They are incompetant, every one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They're still sitting close together in the classroom. I really don't think it matters.

It does according to the CDC but what do they know!

The CDC is still recommending 3 feet, is still recommending distancing, extra cleanings and much more. Everyone is picking and choosing what is important. And, none of it makes sense for our under 12 (and those 12 in the process of getting vaccinated) as in other places its recommended 6 feet and other precautions. Its very concerning they aren't doing quarantining, testing and distancing at MCSP. Its really irresponsible.

I blame Biden as he's gone back to life as normal and keeps denying how serious the situation really is. He's worse than Trump in some ways as Biden should know better. You cannot expect anything of Trump given he had a few screws loose but Biden "should" be protecting our kids.

Same here. The CDC has made it clear that kids are not a priority. And Biden wants everything back to normal, so we end up with a big mess. While Fauci is out there saying vaccinated people need to mask indoors again.

The CDC has made it absolutely clear that kids are a priority by giving schools latitude to get back in-person five days per week.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They're still sitting close together in the classroom. I really don't think it matters.

It does according to the CDC but what do they know!

The CDC is still recommending 3 feet, is still recommending distancing, extra cleanings and much more. Everyone is picking and choosing what is important. And, none of it makes sense for our under 12 (and those 12 in the process of getting vaccinated) as in other places its recommended 6 feet and other precautions. Its very concerning they aren't doing quarantining, testing and distancing at MCSP. Its really irresponsible.

I blame Biden as he's gone back to life as normal and keeps denying how serious the situation really is. He's worse than Trump in some ways as Biden should know better. You cannot expect anything of Trump given he had a few screws loose but Biden "should" be protecting our kids.

Same here. The CDC has made it clear that kids are not a priority. And Biden wants everything back to normal, so we end up with a big mess. While Fauci is out there saying vaccinated people need to mask indoors again.

The CDC has made it absolutely clear that kids are a priority by giving schools latitude to get back in-person five days per week.

The CDC says its a priority but they also put in very specific safety precautions as well. They are also probably not looking at MS-HS in MCPS where the schools are 1000-3000K+ students plus staff and very tight classrooms. It may be more doable in ES where they can keep kids separated by classrooms, but in MS, its not as simple. At least in HS, some kids will be vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is actually quite a bit of evidence that flimsy cloth masks are not effective with delta. Israel and the UK reinstated mask mandates weeks ago and it had no impact on their case numbers. They continued going up at the same rates. Those numbers are finally just starting to go back down, suggesting that delta will just burn through as it wants until herd immunity. Fortunately for MoCo, the high vaccine rate lowers the point until we get there. Unfortunately, no kids under 12 are in that group. But I do think flimsy masks with slipshod enforcement of actually keeping the thing on your mouth and nose is security theater.

This is not to say we shouldn’t do 5 days in person. We should. Covid is less dangerous to kids than flu or RSV and we don’t shut the world down for that. This isn’t going away and we have to learn to live with it. But at least know accurately what you are risking. I fully believe schools are going to be awash in virus and pretty much everyone will get it. But nobody’s going to test and it’s so contagious now that contact tracing is stupid and if they’re not doing separated cohorts then we might as well bury our heads and keep going.

I believe we should ask for better mitigation strategies at school. For example, lunch is still eaten at cafeteria. Why can’t MCPS make cohorts and let kids eat lunch in the classroom? Or outdoor is even better.

They're still sitting close together in the classroom. I really don't think it matters.

It does according to the CDC but what do they know!

The CDC is still recommending 3 feet, is still recommending distancing, extra cleanings and much more. Everyone is picking and choosing what is important. And, none of it makes sense for our under 12 (and those 12 in the process of getting vaccinated) as in other places its recommended 6 feet and other precautions. Its very concerning they aren't doing quarantining, testing and distancing at MCSP. Its really irresponsible.

I blame Biden as he's gone back to life as normal and keeps denying how serious the situation really is. He's worse than Trump in some ways as Biden should know better. You cannot expect anything of Trump given he had a few screws loose but Biden "should" be protecting our kids.

Same here. The CDC has made it clear that kids are not a priority. And Biden wants everything back to normal, so we end up with a big mess. While Fauci is out there saying vaccinated people need to mask indoors again.

The CDC has made it absolutely clear that kids are a priority by giving schools latitude to get back in-person five days per week.

The CDC says its a priority but they also put in very specific safety precautions as well. They are also probably not looking at MS-HS in MCPS where the schools are 1000-3000K+ students plus staff and very tight classrooms. It may be more doable in ES where they can keep kids separated by classrooms, but in MS, its not as simple. At least in HS, some kids will be vaccinated.

There are large schools/districts across the country. They're finally embracing a strategy to reduce risk, not eliminate risk. As is every other aspect of our society. Do what you will, but it's time to get back to it.

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There is no option to choose virtual anymore. We’re left with home school or in person. But how can we do home school with both parents working.

I'm sorry, PP, but that's on you. It would have been prudent for you to choose virtual when that was an option. But you didn't, so now you're stuck with the consequences of your decision.

Well the deadline was too early to make a decision. Everything looks very promising in June and vaccine efficacy was reported to be miraculous. Then suddenly in July Israel has outbreaks and breakthrough infections are more and more common. You can’t blame the parents for making decisions based on the situation. Now I just wish MCPS will consider drastically changed situations to accommodate more virtual students.

This again. PP, I'm sorry you were deluded to think Covid was gone, I really do. There was always going to be a risk that your child would get covid in school- since you can't handle any small uptick in risk, it would have been prudent for you to apply just in case, submitting an application itself was not binding.

Call MCPS- you could always lie and say your kid has a new health issue. Otherwise buck up and figure it out- we had to provide a lot of support with virtual learning last year, I don't know that homeschooling would have been any more of a time sink. It would also give you more flexibility.

I did apply. I don't need to lie as it can go by parent health issues, and I have well documented health issues. Its not a small uptick in risk when they are bring large groups of kids together, no testing or other precautions and kids not vaccinated.

So you’re making excuses for others who were too u decided to apply in time? I’m confused.

I had hoped mops would be more responsible with reopening.

What is it you expect them to do? It's five days in-person. There's no more hiding from the virus with hybrid/virtual-for-all nonsense. They'll mask, and that's the new normal (or better than) across the US.

But are masks even effective with the delta variant, given how much more contagious it is? That's a really big assumption.

What are you suggesting? Another year of virtual? That can't happen. It'll never end.

Masks help, but its still an issue. MCPS had a year to make a plan for reopening to make it safe for our unvaccinated kids. I'd like a hybrid or even 1/2 day in person so the groups are smaller.

The reason this isn't going to happen is that it'd double down on the poor educational outcomes from last year and wouldn't work for many (most) families. Are you WFH or a SAHM? People are increasingly return to office buildings now and in fall. Last year was the year of the shutdown. It's not an effective remedy and not in alignment with increasing acceptance that this is as good as it gets.

+1. Also, I don't understand people who are still suggesting hybrid and thinking it would be safer. We both work- do you know where my kids would be the rest of the week if they were only in school 2 days? In a distance learning hub, mingling with a completely different group of kids (and anyone who went to one last year knows the kids were allowed to mingle). Others would be in pods, return to in-home daycares, etc. for those days. Then you have a complex network of kids that could be affected by a positive case.

Your kids are you responsibility. You hire help like the rest of us. Or, you flex your schedule. What do you do in the summer?

Um my kids have been in camp all summer minus the week we went on vacation and the two weeks they had covid. Duh. Where have your kids been?

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There is no option to choose virtual anymore. We’re left with home school or in person. But how can we do home school with both parents working.

I'm sorry, PP, but that's on you. It would have been prudent for you to choose virtual when that was an option. But you didn't, so now you're stuck with the consequences of your decision.

Well the deadline was too early to make a decision. Everything looks very promising in June and vaccine efficacy was reported to be miraculous. Then suddenly in July Israel has outbreaks and breakthrough infections are more and more common. You can’t blame the parents for making decisions based on the situation. Now I just wish MCPS will consider drastically changed situations to accommodate more virtual students.

This again. PP, I'm sorry you were deluded to think Covid was gone, I really do. There was always going to be a risk that your child would get covid in school- since you can't handle any small uptick in risk, it would have been prudent for you to apply just in case, submitting an application itself was not binding.

Call MCPS- you could always lie and say your kid has a new health issue. Otherwise buck up and figure it out- we had to provide a lot of support with virtual learning last year, I don't know that homeschooling would have been any more of a time sink. It would also give you more flexibility.

I did apply. I don't need to lie as it can go by parent health issues, and I have well documented health issues. Its not a small uptick in risk when they are bring large groups of kids together, no testing or other precautions and kids not vaccinated.

So you’re making excuses for others who were too u decided to apply in time? I’m confused.

I had hoped mops would be more responsible with reopening.

What is it you expect them to do? It's five days in-person. There's no more hiding from the virus with hybrid/virtual-for-all nonsense. They'll mask, and that's the new normal (or better than) across the US.

But are masks even effective with the delta variant, given how much more contagious it is? That's a really big assumption.

What are you suggesting? Another year of virtual? That can't happen. It'll never end.

Masks help, but its still an issue. MCPS had a year to make a plan for reopening to make it safe for our unvaccinated kids. I'd like a hybrid or even 1/2 day in person so the groups are smaller.

The reason this isn't going to happen is that it'd double down on the poor educational outcomes from last year and wouldn't work for many (most) families. Are you WFH or a SAHM? People are increasingly return to office buildings now and in fall. Last year was the year of the shutdown. It's not an effective remedy and not in alignment with increasing acceptance that this is as good as it gets.

+1. Also, I don't understand people who are still suggesting hybrid and thinking it would be safer. We both work- do you know where my kids would be the rest of the week if they were only in school 2 days? In a distance learning hub, mingling with a completely different group of kids (and anyone who went to one last year knows the kids were allowed to mingle). Others would be in pods, return to in-home daycares, etc. for those days. Then you have a complex network of kids that could be affected by a positive case.

Your kids are you responsibility. You hire help like the rest of us. Or, you flex your schedule. What do you do in the summer?

Also we’re done with that argument. It’s so last year. Nobody believes it anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:They cannot come back until they clean house: central office and Board of Education. They are incompetant, every one of them.

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There is no option to choose virtual anymore. We’re left with home school or in person. But how can we do home school with both parents working.

I'm sorry, PP, but that's on you. It would have been prudent for you to choose virtual when that was an option. But you didn't, so now you're stuck with the consequences of your decision.

Well the deadline was too early to make a decision. Everything looks very promising in June and vaccine efficacy was reported to be miraculous. Then suddenly in July Israel has outbreaks and breakthrough infections are more and more common. You can’t blame the parents for making decisions based on the situation. Now I just wish MCPS will consider drastically changed situations to accommodate more virtual students.

This again. PP, I'm sorry you were deluded to think Covid was gone, I really do. There was always going to be a risk that your child would get covid in school- since you can't handle any small uptick in risk, it would have been prudent for you to apply just in case, submitting an application itself was not binding.

Call MCPS- you could always lie and say your kid has a new health issue. Otherwise buck up and figure it out- we had to provide a lot of support with virtual learning last year, I don't know that homeschooling would have been any more of a time sink. It would also give you more flexibility.

I did apply. I don't need to lie as it can go by parent health issues, and I have well documented health issues. Its not a small uptick in risk when they are bring large groups of kids together, no testing or other precautions and kids not vaccinated.

So you’re making excuses for others who were too u decided to apply in time? I’m confused.

I had hoped mops would be more responsible with reopening.

What is it you expect them to do? It's five days in-person. There's no more hiding from the virus with hybrid/virtual-for-all nonsense. They'll mask, and that's the new normal (or better than) across the US.

But are masks even effective with the delta variant, given how much more contagious it is? That's a really big assumption.

What are you suggesting? Another year of virtual? That can't happen. It'll never end.

Masks help, but its still an issue. MCPS had a year to make a plan for reopening to make it safe for our unvaccinated kids. I'd like a hybrid or even 1/2 day in person so the groups are smaller.

The reason this isn't going to happen is that it'd double down on the poor educational outcomes from last year and wouldn't work for many (most) families. Are you WFH or a SAHM? People are increasingly return to office buildings now and in fall. Last year was the year of the shutdown. It's not an effective remedy and not in alignment with increasing acceptance that this is as good as it gets.

+1. Also, I don't understand people who are still suggesting hybrid and thinking it would be safer. We both work- do you know where my kids would be the rest of the week if they were only in school 2 days? In a distance learning hub, mingling with a completely different group of kids (and anyone who went to one last year knows the kids were allowed to mingle). Others would be in pods, return to in-home daycares, etc. for those days. Then you have a complex network of kids that could be affected by a positive case.

Your kids are you responsibility. You hire help like the rest of us. Or, you flex your schedule. What do you do in the summer?

Way to miss a point. No one has been able to demonstrate that hybrid learning is a successful “mitigation” strategy for covid in kids, and we all know it’s a sucky learning strategy. So who are these people still suggesting it? SAHMs who’d lock their kids in the house on the remote learning days?

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There is no option to choose virtual anymore. We’re left with home school or in person. But how can we do home school with both parents working.

I'm sorry, PP, but that's on you. It would have been prudent for you to choose virtual when that was an option. But you didn't, so now you're stuck with the consequences of your decision.

Well the deadline was too early to make a decision. Everything looks very promising in June and vaccine efficacy was reported to be miraculous. Then suddenly in July Israel has outbreaks and breakthrough infections are more and more common. You can’t blame the parents for making decisions based on the situation. Now I just wish MCPS will consider drastically changed situations to accommodate more virtual students.

This again. PP, I'm sorry you were deluded to think Covid was gone, I really do. There was always going to be a risk that your child would get covid in school- since you can't handle any small uptick in risk, it would have been prudent for you to apply just in case, submitting an application itself was not binding.

Call MCPS- you could always lie and say your kid has a new health issue. Otherwise buck up and figure it out- we had to provide a lot of support with virtual learning last year, I don't know that homeschooling would have been any more of a time sink. It would also give you more flexibility.

I did apply. I don't need to lie as it can go by parent health issues, and I have well documented health issues. Its not a small uptick in risk when they are bring large groups of kids together, no testing or other precautions and kids not vaccinated.

So you’re making excuses for others who were too u decided to apply in time? I’m confused.

I had hoped mops would be more responsible with reopening.

What is it you expect them to do? It's five days in-person. There's no more hiding from the virus with hybrid/virtual-for-all nonsense. They'll mask, and that's the new normal (or better than) across the US.

But are masks even effective with the delta variant, given how much more contagious it is? That's a really big assumption.

What are you suggesting? Another year of virtual? That can't happen. It'll never end.

Masks help, but its still an issue. MCPS had a year to make a plan for reopening to make it safe for our unvaccinated kids. I'd like a hybrid or even 1/2 day in person so the groups are smaller.

The reason this isn't going to happen is that it'd double down on the poor educational outcomes from last year and wouldn't work for many (most) families. Are you WFH or a SAHM? People are increasingly return to office buildings now and in fall. Last year was the year of the shutdown. It's not an effective remedy and not in alignment with increasing acceptance that this is as good as it gets.

+1. Also, I don't understand people who are still suggesting hybrid and thinking it would be safer. We both work- do you know where my kids would be the rest of the week if they were only in school 2 days? In a distance learning hub, mingling with a completely different group of kids (and anyone who went to one last year knows the kids were allowed to mingle). Others would be in pods, return to in-home daycares, etc. for those days. Then you have a complex network of kids that could be affected by a positive case.

Your kids are you responsibility. You hire help like the rest of us. Or, you flex your schedule. What do you do in the summer?

Way to miss a point. No one has been able to demonstrate that hybrid learning is a successful “mitigation” strategy for covid in kids, and we all know it’s a sucky learning strategy. So who are these people still suggesting it? SAHMs who’d lock their kids in the house on the remote learning days?

It did help as there were fewer kids in the school and many depending on the school remained hybrid so we had 200-300 vs. 1000 students in the school so they could socially distance and keep things safer.