Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

^^the above is a person who has heard the information and research about the lower risks of in person school, and yet chooses to ignore it simply in order to try to win the pandemic morality game.

Yes, I’ve seen the cherry picked data and heard the constant shrieking about “learning loss”. I’ve also seen the data on how 1 in 8 NYC public school teachers have had COVID this year. I’ve seen the data from the UK and from Wisconsin, which also state an increased risk for teachers. And I’ve seen parents continue to insist that the risk is worthy, without actually taking on any themselves. I’ve also seen the contact tracing data which indicates that children readily infect others, although people (unscientifically) insist that just doesn’t happen. I read the study that the CDC used to change their recommendation that 3 feet is safe, and was baffled to find that the schools did not actually measure the distance between students (and indicated that there might have been, in fact, much greater than 3 feet between students due to reduced capacities). I was also baffled to read that neither the MA study or the Wisconsin study relied on actual surveillance testing, just self reporting of cases by administrators. “Study” is a strong word for what the slapped together to push this policy.

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Weren't NYC schools closed most of the year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

Some of you are either idiots or have reading comprehension issues. Did you really not understand what I wrote? I wrote "if schools do not open in September", after teachers and most adults will be vaccinated. How can it be risky at that point? You cannot be serious!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

Why don’t you move somewhere else where school is open 5 days a week?

Why don't YOU move somewhere else where kids don't have to attend school?

I’m not the one complaining about what schools here are doing? YOU are. Fix your life, sis.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

Why don’t you move somewhere else where school is open 5 days a week?

My life is fine, thank you; what is not fine is what's going on with schools in the DC area. Schools need to open in Sept and kids need to be able to get back! I will be fine, since I will be able to keep working from home, but I want my kids back in school to be with their friends and their teachers, instead of stating at a computer half of the day.

Why don't YOU move somewhere else where kids don't have to attend school?

I’m not the one complaining about what schools here are doing? YOU are. Fix your life, sis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

^^the above is a person who has heard the information and research about the lower risks of in person school, and yet chooses to ignore it simply in order to try to win the pandemic morality game.

Yes, I’ve seen the cherry picked data and heard the constant shrieking about “learning loss”. I’ve also seen the data on how 1 in 8 NYC public school teachers have had COVID this year. I’ve seen the data from the UK and from Wisconsin, which also state an increased risk for teachers. And I’ve seen parents continue to insist that the risk is worthy, without actually taking on any themselves. I’ve also seen the contact tracing data which indicates that children readily infect others, although people (unscientifically) insist that just doesn’t happen. I read the study that the CDC used to change their recommendation that 3 feet is safe, and was baffled to find that the schools did not actually measure the distance between students (and indicated that there might have been, in fact, much greater than 3 feet between students due to reduced capacities). I was also baffled to read that neither the MA study or the Wisconsin study relied on actual surveillance testing, just self reporting of cases by administrators. “Study” is a strong word for what the slapped together to push this policy.

Wow, that's a really fascinating list of claims which are all incorrect. Why don't you go try to get your claims published?

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Like, show us one paper which shows that learning loss related to DL isn't happening in the US. I'll wait right here.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

Some of you are either idiots or have reading comprehension issues. Did you really not understand what I wrote? I wrote "if schools do not open in September", after teachers and most adults will be vaccinated. How can it be risky at that point? You cannot be serious!

I guess you're looking in the mirror when you're talking about "idiots" who may "have reading comprehension issues." Because you certainly don't have a grasp on what is going on.

It is risky because the children won't have been vaccinated and they are known vectors - they are asymptomatic superspreaders. That makes them risky for vaccinated adults because no vaccine is 100% effective and no vaccine has even 50% efficacy for ALL of the current mutations let alone the new mutations that will occur over the next 6 months. THAT's why it is risky.

I don't understand what you don't understand about this. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend.

I'm a DIFFERENT POSTER by the way - just a newcomer wading into the fray.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

1,000,000, but every one of these parents will claim I DON'T WORK AT HOME IVE WORKED IN PERSON SINCE THE BEGINNING, because they don't have to prove it on anonymous message board. They're full of crap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

Millions of Americans are working from home this year in jobs that previously were thought "couldn't " be done remotely. It turns out in a pandemic, yes, they can.

You not liking, approving of r agreeing with DL is not teachers' problem, but yours. Nobody has been "out of school" for 1-2 years, because education is not buildings.

And the claim that parents are "getting mentally ill" from taking care of their own children and the bogus manipulative "but suicide!" cards are disgusting and pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

Some of you are either idiots or have reading comprehension issues. Did you really not understand what I wrote? I wrote "if schools do not open in September", after teachers and most adults will be vaccinated. How can it be risky at that point? You cannot be serious!

I guess you're looking in the mirror when you're talking about "idiots" who may "have reading comprehension issues." Because you certainly don't have a grasp on what is going on.

It is risky because the children won't have been vaccinated and they are known vectors - they are asymptomatic superspreaders. That makes them risky for vaccinated adults because no vaccine is 100% effective and no vaccine has even 50% efficacy for ALL of the current mutations let alone the new mutations that will occur over the next 6 months. THAT's why it is risky.

I don't understand what you don't understand about this. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend.

I'm a DIFFERENT POSTER by the way - just a newcomer wading into the fray.

Seriously? So how long would you like to stay in DL? 2-3 more years? I am curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

Some of you are either idiots or have reading comprehension issues. Did you really not understand what I wrote? I wrote "if schools do not open in September", after teachers and most adults will be vaccinated. How can it be risky at that point? You cannot be serious!

I guess you're looking in the mirror when you're talking about "idiots" who may "have reading comprehension issues." Because you certainly don't have a grasp on what is going on.

It is risky because the children won't have been vaccinated and they are known vectors - they are asymptomatic superspreaders. That makes them risky for vaccinated adults because no vaccine is 100% effective and no vaccine has even 50% efficacy for ALL of the current mutations let alone the new mutations that will occur over the next 6 months. THAT's why it is risky.

I don't understand what you don't understand about this. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend.

I'm a DIFFERENT POSTER by the way - just a newcomer wading into the fray.

Seriously? So how long would you like to stay in DL? 2-3 more years? I am curious.

For as long as it takes for the pandemic to no longer be a pandemic. I cannot believe you are even asking that question. It is a "duh" to me...and anyone who gives a fig about other people. A kid's education is NOT worth an adult's life. My husband and I will keep doing what we're doing. Our kids are thriving and we're having a great year.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

Some of you are either idiots or have reading comprehension issues. Did you really not understand what I wrote? I wrote "if schools do not open in September", after teachers and most adults will be vaccinated. How can it be risky at that point? You cannot be serious!

I guess you're looking in the mirror when you're talking about "idiots" who may "have reading comprehension issues." Because you certainly don't have a grasp on what is going on.

It is risky because the children won't have been vaccinated and they are known vectors - they are asymptomatic superspreaders. That makes them risky for vaccinated adults because no vaccine is 100% effective and no vaccine has even 50% efficacy for ALL of the current mutations let alone the new mutations that will occur over the next 6 months. THAT's why it is risky.

I don't understand what you don't understand about this. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend.

I'm a DIFFERENT POSTER by the way - just a newcomer wading into the fray.

Seriously? So how long would you like to stay in DL? 2-3 more years? I am curious.

For as long as it takes for the pandemic to no longer be a pandemic. I cannot believe you are even asking that question. It is a "duh" to me...and anyone who gives a fig about other people. A kid's education is NOT worth an adult's life. My husband and I will keep doing what we're doing. Our kids are thriving and we're having a great year.

+1, but you're about to get jumped on by the rapid Open 'Er Up crowd, who will insist that you don't know your own children, that they can't be thriving, that you live in your basement (they're imbeciles) and that you can't know what your kids are or aren't learning, even when you hear what they're learning and see how they perform every day. To them, anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda that OMG DL IS AN EVIL HATEFUL CATASTROPHE FOR ALL CHILDREN is a liar or a troll.

Don't waste your time with them.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

Millions of Americans are working from home this year in jobs that previously were thought "couldn't " be done remotely. It turns out in a pandemic, yes, they can.

You not liking, approving of r agreeing with DL is not teachers' problem, but yours. Nobody has been "out of school" for 1-2 years, because education is not buildings.

And the claim that parents are "getting mentally ill" from taking care of their own children and the bogus manipulative "but suicide!" cards are disgusting and pathetic.

I 100% believe that there are parents who are mentally ill as a result of spending 24/7 with their own kids. It used to drive middle class married white women into depression in the 1950s and ‘60s. Now their granddaughters are experiencing the same thing and think no one cares. It’s not that no one cares. It’s that mental health care is available now in a way it wasn’t mid-century and you need to exhaust that before you start demanding other people (mostly women, often less well-off than you, and sometimes POC) risk their lives so you don’t need to take an antidepressant or tell your DH to share parenting duties.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

“I work from home, but the bottom line is that other people should put themselves at risk because it’s more convenient for me.”

Yes, I am not a teacher. My kind of work is such that I can 100% do it from home. In fact, I can be sitting anywhere in the world and do it. Does not make a difference. Teaching ES kids is not that kind of work. ES Teachers need to be in school, teaching young kids. Just like doctors/ nurses/ bus drivers/ garbage people/ cashiers can not do their work from home, right? Why on earth would teachers be at risk once they are vaccinated? Please give me the reasons, and they better be good ones. Why are you trying to twist this about "my convenience"? Are you out of your mind? Don't you understand that this has a domino effect on society? Parents are not able to work and take care of their kids, we are not teachers. Teaching is a profession. Parents are getting mentally ill, and can take care of their kids even less. Kids are getting mental health issues. Kids are falling behind. Being out of school for 1.5-2 years is a big deal. So, don't make this about "my convenience".

“Getting mental health issues” lol. I’m going to assume English is not your first language and give you the benefit of the doubt. Teachers don’t exist to fix parent “mental health issues” or allow you to telework in peace. Our job is to assess students, provide tailored instruction, and monitor progress. In what world have students been out of school for 1.5-2 years? The pandemic only began a year ago.

This is all about your convenience. If you want to work in peace then hire someone to come work with your children for an hour or two a day to help with their work, just as people have been doing all year long. Put on headphones. It is not the school or the teachers’ fault that you are a single mother or mentally ill. Frankly? It is totally irrelevant.

You sound quite entitled for a teacher. Don't you care about the wellbeing of the kids you are in charge of teaching? Don't you get what I described above or you just don't care?
By Sept. it will be 1.5 years of DL. No-one said it was anyone's fault that I am a single Mom. I was just giving some examples and scenarios for those people who still do not understand why DL does not equal in-school education, like e.g. you it seems. And you are not my teacher (luckily), so you do not need to lecture my knowledge of English. If kids will not go back to school soon, an entire generation will have major issues with math, English etc etc. And yes, many kids are having mental issues, as parents too.

Don’t you care about the well-being of other people? No, right? You only care about yourself and your kids. It is the absolute epitome of entitlement to believe you deserve to work from the safety of your home while others put themselves unnecessarily at risk to better serve you. You aren’t worried that a child dies of COVID every 26 hours in the United States or any of the 1,536 people who died yesterday. Gross.

Some of you are either idiots or have reading comprehension issues. Did you really not understand what I wrote? I wrote "if schools do not open in September", after teachers and most adults will be vaccinated. How can it be risky at that point? You cannot be serious!

I guess you're looking in the mirror when you're talking about "idiots" who may "have reading comprehension issues." Because you certainly don't have a grasp on what is going on.

It is risky because the children won't have been vaccinated and they are known vectors - they are asymptomatic superspreaders. That makes them risky for vaccinated adults because no vaccine is 100% effective and no vaccine has even 50% efficacy for ALL of the current mutations let alone the new mutations that will occur over the next 6 months. THAT's why it is risky.

I don't understand what you don't understand about this. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend.

I'm a DIFFERENT POSTER by the way - just a newcomer wading into the fray.

Seriously? So how long would you like to stay in DL? 2-3 more years? I am curious.

For as long as it takes for the pandemic to no longer be a pandemic. I cannot believe you are even asking that question. It is a "duh" to me...and anyone who gives a fig about other people. A kid's education is NOT worth an adult's life. My husband and I will keep doing what we're doing. Our kids are thriving and we're having a great year.

SARS and H1N1 were also pandemics, should we have shut down schools for a year for each of those as well? Every profession comes with risks and every year teachers die from flu and other viruses contracted in the classroom, accidents traveling to/from work, etc...Unless you have never sent your kids to in person school, claiming now that kids’ education is not worth an adult’s life makes you a hypocrite. The more accurate question is how many adult lives are an acceptable trade off? A pandemic is simply an epidemic in multiple countries/continents and the definition has nothing to do with lethality so “when the pandemic is over” is a pretty arbitrary benchmark.