Will fall 2021 mean full IP classes?

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Anonymous wrote:What needs to happen for kids to be able to go back to regular capacity classrooms? Is it just teachers being vaccinated? Herd immunity? I’m just wondering if we’ll have to deal with some form of hybrid in the fall at DCPS. I’ve given up on my kids returning IP for this academic year.

What needs to happen is the union needs to be disbanded. How anyone cannot see that the union is the obstacle to in person is beyond me.

I will thank the union for making sure buildings were ready to open. Schools are open- please stop whining.

I know, NW schools have the highest number of students back! LOL but it's not enough for them.

Until you can offer in person learning to every student whose parents want them back, it is not meaningfully opened. Our school has 33 seats for in person for a student population of 486. Less than 7% were allowed to come back for in person leading. It is a joke to say school is open.

Yours is but one school some have 300+ back via hybrid.

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Anonymous wrote:What needs to happen for kids to be able to go back to regular capacity classrooms? Is it just teachers being vaccinated? Herd immunity? I’m just wondering if we’ll have to deal with some form of hybrid in the fall at DCPS. I’ve given up on my kids returning IP for this academic year.

What needs to happen is the union needs to be disbanded. How anyone cannot see that the union is the obstacle to in person is beyond me.

I will thank the union for making sure buildings were ready to open. Schools are open- please stop whining.

I know, NW schools have the highest number of students back! LOL but it's not enough for them.

Until you can offer in person learning to every student whose parents want them back, it is not meaningfully opened. Our school has 33 seats for in person for a student population of 486. Less than 7% were allowed to come back for in person leading. It is a joke to say school is open.

Yours is but one school some have 300+ back via hybrid.

That one school is an exception, and must be a very large school.

It’s BS to say school’s are ‘open’ when there are a bunch of people who want seats but didn’t get them.

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Anonymous wrote:The ONLY way to reopen for full IPL is having the restrictions lifted off of the number of students allowed per in person class. It is currently at 11 for most grade levels (a little less for PreK/K). If the CDC revises this guidance (which I imagine they will with Biden's good pickup of vaccination rollout, including teachers). That would reduce community transmission.

Face masks will still be required, but I think some level of herd immunity could occur by after Labor Day 2021.

But why is herd immunity the bar to cross, when masked kids do not transmit between each other easily, and we'll have most vulnerable adults and teachers vaccinated soon?

Because people demand zero Covid risk.

“People” don’t, though a vocal minority of the WTU appears to.

I think it's actually a pretty widespread sentiment among the population, not just the WTU.

10,000 kids accept the (low) risks of attending school now, and that doesn’t include the ones that didn’t get the opportunity nor the ones who said no to an offer for logistical reasons.

Sure. I am among those who would have accepted an offer if we had gotten one. I would have sent my kids back last fall or even spring if they had opened. I still think there is a substantial part of the US population that is extremely risk averse when it comes to Covid. The level of hysteria is very high. (And no, I don't think Covid is "just the flu". I know what the stats are and the unknowns. But I do think it is not akin to Ebola or Smallpox, and for most people, the risks of getting severely sick or having long-term effects will be very low.)

I don’t believe for one second you would have sent your kids back to school in April or May of last year.

Well, then don't. I never thought school closures were truly justified. Sweden never closed elementary schools, and infections among their kids were lower than in some other countries that did. My extended family in Europe went back before the summer.

You know, there are one way flights to Sweden...

Oh how nice to see a "if you don't like AMERICA you can LEAVE" comment here. Very original.

Not as original as "but, but, but in X tiny eurpopean country is so far ahead of the US". It's literally every other thread.

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Anonymous wrote:The ONLY way to reopen for full IPL is having the restrictions lifted off of the number of students allowed per in person class. It is currently at 11 for most grade levels (a little less for PreK/K). If the CDC revises this guidance (which I imagine they will with Biden's good pickup of vaccination rollout, including teachers). That would reduce community transmission.

Face masks will still be required, but I think some level of herd immunity could occur by after Labor Day 2021.

But why is herd immunity the bar to cross, when masked kids do not transmit between each other easily, and we'll have most vulnerable adults and teachers vaccinated soon?

Because people demand zero Covid risk.

“People” don’t, though a vocal minority of the WTU appears to.

I think it's actually a pretty widespread sentiment among the population, not just the WTU.

10,000 kids accept the (low) risks of attending school now, and that doesn’t include the ones that didn’t get the opportunity nor the ones who said no to an offer for logistical reasons.

Sure. I am among those who would have accepted an offer if we had gotten one. I would have sent my kids back last fall or even spring if they had opened. I still think there is a substantial part of the US population that is extremely risk averse when it comes to Covid. The level of hysteria is very high. (And no, I don't think Covid is "just the flu". I know what the stats are and the unknowns. But I do think it is not akin to Ebola or Smallpox, and for most people, the risks of getting severely sick or having long-term effects will be very low.)

I don’t believe for one second you would have sent your kids back to school in April or May of last year.

Well, then don't. I never thought school closures were truly justified. Sweden never closed elementary schools, and infections among their kids were lower than in some other countries that did. My extended family in Europe went back before the summer.

You know, there are one way flights to Sweden...

Typical old tired response from Americans who are out of arguments. Guess what, we actually did spend the fall in Sweden, but had to come back due to my husband having to go back to work in person.

Upward mobility is a wonderful thing. Don't ever lose that privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:The ONLY way to reopen for full IPL is having the restrictions lifted off of the number of students allowed per in person class. It is currently at 11 for most grade levels (a little less for PreK/K). If the CDC revises this guidance (which I imagine they will with Biden's good pickup of vaccination rollout, including teachers). That would reduce community transmission.

Face masks will still be required, but I think some level of herd immunity could occur by after Labor Day 2021.

But why is herd immunity the bar to cross, when masked kids do not transmit between each other easily, and we'll have most vulnerable adults and teachers vaccinated soon?

Because people demand zero Covid risk.

“People” don’t, though a vocal minority of the WTU appears to.

I think it's actually a pretty widespread sentiment among the population, not just the WTU.

10,000 kids accept the (low) risks of attending school now, and that doesn’t include the ones that didn’t get the opportunity nor the ones who said no to an offer for logistical reasons.

Sure. I am among those who would have accepted an offer if we had gotten one. I would have sent my kids back last fall or even spring if they had opened. I still think there is a substantial part of the US population that is extremely risk averse when it comes to Covid. The level of hysteria is very high. (And no, I don't think Covid is "just the flu". I know what the stats are and the unknowns. But I do think it is not akin to Ebola or Smallpox, and for most people, the risks of getting severely sick or having long-term effects will be very low.)

I don’t believe for one second you would have sent your kids back to school in April or May of last year.

Well, then don't. I never thought school closures were truly justified. Sweden never closed elementary schools, and infections among their kids were lower than in some other countries that did. My extended family in Europe went back before the summer.

You know, there are one way flights to Sweden...

Oh how nice to see a "if you don't like AMERICA you can LEAVE" comment here. Very original.

Not as original as "but, but, but in X tiny eurpopean country is so far ahead of the US". It's literally every other thread.

The size of the country is irrelevant when these decisions are made hyper locally in the US. You can try that excuse on every other thread, that doesn’t make it any more convincing.

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Anonymous wrote:Again low SES parents and others figured it out but you can't? Pffft.

It’s easier to figure out if you live in mult-generational households with grandparents and great-grandparents who are in their forties and sixties...

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Anonymous wrote:Again low SES parents and others figured it out but you can't? Pffft.

It’s easier to figure out if you live in mult-generational households with grandparents and great-grandparents who are in their forties and sixties...

I would like to know what they figured out. They can’t all live in multi-generational households and they can’t all be able to stay home to work. Perhaps public assistance? Perhaps not eating some meals?

Grumpy “I don’t care” poster: you seem to speak for all the low SES people. Do tell us your experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Again low SES parents and others figured it out but you can't? Pffft.

It’s easier to figure out if you live in mult-generational households with grandparents and great-grandparents who are in their forties and sixties...

I would like to know what they figured out. They can’t all live in multi-generational households and they can’t all be able to stay home to work. Perhaps public assistance? Perhaps not eating some meals?

Grumpy “I don’t care” poster: you seem to speak for all the low SES people. Do tell us your experience.

I think there will be an awful lot of kids too young to be left unsupervised being left unsupervised...

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Anonymous wrote:Again low SES parents and others figured it out but you can't? Pffft.

It’s easier to figure out if you live in mult-generational households with grandparents and great-grandparents who are in their forties and sixties...

Low SES parents have figured out what? How to have their teens watch their pre-kers so none of them have school?

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Anonymous wrote:The ONLY way to reopen for full IPL is having the restrictions lifted off of the number of students allowed per in person class. It is currently at 11 for most grade levels (a little less for PreK/K). If the CDC revises this guidance (which I imagine they will with Biden's good pickup of vaccination rollout, including teachers). That would reduce community transmission.

Face masks will still be required, but I think some level of herd immunity could occur by after Labor Day 2021.

But why is herd immunity the bar to cross, when masked kids do not transmit between each other easily, and we'll have most vulnerable adults and teachers vaccinated soon?

Because people demand zero Covid risk.

“People” don’t, though a vocal minority of the WTU appears to.

I think it's actually a pretty widespread sentiment among the population, not just the WTU.

10,000 kids accept the (low) risks of attending school now, and that doesn’t include the ones that didn’t get the opportunity nor the ones who said no to an offer for logistical reasons.

Sure. I am among those who would have accepted an offer if we had gotten one. I would have sent my kids back last fall or even spring if they had opened. I still think there is a substantial part of the US population that is extremely risk averse when it comes to Covid. The level of hysteria is very high. (And no, I don't think Covid is "just the flu". I know what the stats are and the unknowns. But I do think it is not akin to Ebola or Smallpox, and for most people, the risks of getting severely sick or having long-term effects will be very low.)

I don’t believe for one second you would have sent your kids back to school in April or May of last year.

Well, then don't. I never thought school closures were truly justified. Sweden never closed elementary schools, and infections among their kids were lower than in some other countries that did. My extended family in Europe went back before the summer.

You know, there are one way flights to Sweden...

Oh how nice to see a "if you don't like AMERICA you can LEAVE" comment here. Very original.

Not as original as "but, but, but in X tiny eurpopean country is so far ahead of the US". It's literally every other thread.

Ah yes, the other common conservative argument "but Finland's/UK's/Germany's policies could never work HERE! The USA is too unique to follow the lead of basically every other developed nation!"

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You can keep stomping your feet but your child likely won't have in person until Fall if you don't have it now. And Fall most likely will be hybrid.

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Anonymous wrote:Again low SES parents and others figured it out but you can't? Pffft.

It’s easier to figure out if you live in mult-generational households with grandparents and great-grandparents who are in their forties and sixties...

Low SES parents have figured out what? How to have their teens watch their pre-kers so none of them have school?

Yeah, how do we know they've figured it out? Because their voices aren't here? What are they doing?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh hell no. My kids are going to school in person full time (they will wear masks if necessary). Even if we have to go stay with grandparents in another state, I absolutely refuse to do distance learning beyond the end of this year.

Same. DCs tax base will take a beating. There will be teacher layoffs. No one is sticking around for fall hybrid.

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Anonymous wrote:Again low SES parents and others figured it out but you can't? Pffft.

It’s easier to figure out if you live in mult-generational households with grandparents and great-grandparents who are in their forties and sixties...

Low SES parents have figured out what? How to have their teens watch their pre-kers so none of them have school?

Yeah, how do we know they've figured it out? Because their voices aren't here? What are they doing?

I work with them, you guys just assume. And above is just another '8th grade' education comment in disguise. NOTHING is easier for low SES families. Some of you are just in this white privileged bubble.

You have the black lives matter sign on your lawn but secretly think we are beneath you.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh hell no. My kids are going to school in person full time (they will wear masks if necessary). Even if we have to go stay with grandparents in another state, I absolutely refuse to do distance learning beyond the end of this year.

Same. DCs tax base will take a beating. There will be teacher layoffs. No one is sticking around for fall hybrid.

LOL seriously? You think you're that important?