Is GAL just letting anyone in? What ECNL should have done

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.

This thread is starting to get ridiculous, we have great teams in Northern VA ECNL and Bad teams in Northern VA ECNL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not just the change in the letters. Here are a few facts that will impact recruiting:

1. ECNL is now stronger. All but a few of the strongest DA clubs are now in ECNL. ECNL also picked up Pipeline.
2. GA is diluted.
3. College AD budgets are being cut as we speak. If they hit ten showcases before, they will hit five next year.

Given the above, where do you think coaches will go? They will prioritize the league with an established track-record of producing talent and the fact that the showcases will include the top DA teams and players will make it more attractive to coaches. I imagine that ECNL will increase the number of showcases. I also think the better avenue for any GA team is to also schedule to play in a major showcase like JefCup.

With No DA there may be more competition between ECNL & DA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today GAL introduced 3 new teams 1 for Mid Atlantic 2 for the Bay area.

What are your thoughts? Are they taking any clubs that signs up which opens up the possibility for a nationwide pro and reg league? Do they seem desperate or are they being smart and might overtake ECNL by having good competitions within a few hours drive.

I think GA is likely just trying to achieve critical mass to support the league. ECNL has the numbers to support pro/rel, but it's doubtful to happen there. Pro/rel in a elite level youth system tends to reinforce alot of the bad characteristics of youth sports:

Two or more tiers can make it harder to regionalize travel at the higher level

ECNL, GA, and CCL are all club based leagues that can economize by traveling as a club for the most part, which makes it hard to relegate teams without disrupting other age groups.

In high density areas like NoVA, where there are multiple clubs within range for most folks, relegating a club or team effectively destroys that club because players will just go across the street to play for another club at the same level.

Pro/rel reinforces a win at all costs mentality within clubs. That might be okay at U18/19 but it's not conducive to development of a player pool at U14.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.

You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.

Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.

Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.

You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?

There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.

No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.

So, was it La Plata, Leesburg, or Barca?

[Anonymous]

This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Today GAL introduced 3 new teams 1 for Mid Atlantic 2 for the Bay area.

What are your thoughts? Are they taking any clubs that signs up which opens up the possibility for a nationwide pro and reg league? Do they seem desperate or are they being smart and might overtake ECNL by having good competitions within a few hours drive.

I think GA is likely just trying to achieve critical mass to support the league. ECNL has the numbers to support pro/rel, but it's doubtful to happen there. Pro/rel in a elite level youth system tends to reinforce alot of the bad characteristics of youth sports:

Two or more tiers can make it harder to regionalize travel at the higher level

ECNL, GA, and CCL are all club based leagues that can economize by traveling as a club for the most part, which makes it hard to relegate teams without disrupting other age groups.

In high density areas like NoVA, where there are multiple clubs within range for most folks, relegating a club or team effectively destroys that club because players will just go across the street to play for another club at the same level.

Pro/rel reinforces a win at all costs mentality within clubs. That might be okay at U18/19 but it's not conducive to development of a player pool at U14.

+1

Some good points here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.

This thread is starting to get ridiculous, we have great teams in Northern VA ECNL and Bad teams in Northern VA ECNL

Arguing for no reason.

[Anonymous]

If Recruiting budgets are slashed and coaches have to decide between ECNL event or GA what happens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmC5cqYvBVo

LOL!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

Hilarious. And still won’t tell us which EDP team could walk on. Because it’s BS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

Hilarious. And still won’t tell us which EDP team could walk on. Because it’s BS

Imagine defining a kid sight unseen based on presumed league affiliation.

Real big brains over at VDA its a shame based on the above film that their kids are not as good as they think they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

Hilarious. And still won’t tell us which EDP team could walk on. Because it’s BS

Imagine defining a kid sight unseen based on presumed league affiliation.

Real big brains over at VDA its a shame based on the above film that their kids are not as good as they think they are.

No horse in this race however, The film was of VDA winning a game at Nationals 5-0

[Anonymous]

Arguing like children over u14 soccer. Great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

Hilarious. And still won’t tell us which EDP team could walk on. Because it’s BS

Imagine defining a kid sight unseen based on presumed league affiliation.

Real big brains over at VDA its a shame based on the above film that their kids are not as good as they think they are.

No horse in this race however, The film was of VDA winning a game at Nationals 5-0

And they looked terrible. First touch was bad, couldn’t string 3 passes together, get the ball and run until you run out of room and cross.

Terrible play

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This dude basically said, “I’m going to tell your daddy!”

Well, if youre going to tell daddy make sure you tell the right person. Quan isn’t the coach.

Hilarious. And still won’t tell us which EDP team could walk on. Because it’s BS

Imagine defining a kid sight unseen based on presumed league affiliation.

Real big brains over at VDA its a shame based on the above film that their kids are not as good as they think they are.

I think it’s absolutely batty that you’d start a fight on this thread and then not have the stones to let us know your team of secret legends.